The pettiness of getting even.......

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: charrison

1. Considering the FBI/CIA failed to followup on on lead about the 9/11 attack, it probably would have happened if Gore was president.
2. The corperate scandals would still have occured.
3. The dot coms would still have failed
4. There would have been some military action, as the public would have demanded it. I doubt Gore would have gone to Iraq.
5. The economy still would stalled if Gore was elected.
6. Because of the above things, we would still have budget defecits of about the same size as we have today.

Supertool, it is time for you take off your partisan blinders as well.

1. Probably. We'll never know.
2. maybe, but the Enron shenanigans in CA would not have been allowed.
3. yes
4. yes, if 9/11 happened there would be military action. We don't need to be in Iraq.
5. yes, most likely
6. no. the current deficits are the result of huge taxcuts and mounting defense spending. I think Gore would have been much more of a deficit hawk. Think lockbox.

Gore belongs in San Francisco with the rest of the tree-huggers and pacifists.

There were sure alot of trees to hug in vietnam

Yes he was in vietnam unlike our current AWOL chickenhawk president.

yeah. he was in vietnam as a militaryjournalist. No combat role whatsoever. As for Clinton, I think he fled to Canada.

Gore was a military officer get it through your head. So much for pacifism

I see you didnt even try and defend Bush, instead took a jab at Clinton... typical. Well at least we know Clinton got into Oxford on his own without the help of daddy.

bush was in the national guard.

He was also AWOL.

http://www.talion.com/georgebush.html http://www.talion.com/georgebush.html

$2000 reward for those who can find Bush between 1972-1973 the period he was suppose to report for duty

 

[cpumaster]

Problem with Bush and his tax cut is he just keep saying it and trying to convince evryone that it will automatically solve all economy problem in US.

How to counter increasing jobless rate? tax cut.
How to revive the current slump in economy that seem to get worse ever since 9/11? tax cut.
Didn't you pass a tax cut after 9/11 and it didn't help much? well, we need more and bigger tax cut.
How about budget deficit? tax cut will solve it by reviving economy thus balancing the budget automatically
How about SSN, med coverage, education? tax cut...
Can you explain your tax cut detail? talk to congress, I don't deal with detail, all I know is big number of tax cut will solve any problem
why promoting tax cut instead of other solution? it's the easiest thing to remember and spell and my magic eight ball say so...
What about allegation that your tax cut program benefit mostly the rich and will do nothing to solve the economy problem? Stop asking questions, you democrat loving tree hugging frenchie traitor

 

[sMiLeYz]

Dari

God we can go on and on about this crap, but honestly Gore is no more a pacifist than Bush or Clinton.

But you selectively choose to scrutinize the failures of a PAST president and a ex vice president rather than those of our CURRENT president Mr Bush Jr himself.

That is dangerous ignorance on your part.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: cpumaster
Problem with Bush and his tax cut is he just keep saying it and trying to convince evryone that it will automatically solve all economy problem in US.

How to counter increasing jobless rate? tax cut.
How to revive the current slump in economy that seem to get worse ever since 9/11? tax cut.
Didn't you pass a tax cut after 9/11 and it didn't help much? well, we need more and bigger tax cut.
How about budget deficit? tax cut will solve it by reviving economy thus balancing the budget automatically
How about SSN, med coverage, education? tax cut...
Can you explain your tax cut detail? talk to congress, I don't deal with detail, all I know is big number of tax cut will solve any problem
why promoting tax cut instead of other solution? it's the easiest thing to remember and spell and my magic eight ball say so...
What about allegation that your tax cut program benefit mostly the rich and will do nothing to solve the economy problem? Stop asking questions, you democrat loving tree hugging frenchie traitor

lol i couldnt have put it better myself

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Dari
Instead of coming to the table with heavy baggages of prejudices, why don't you look at events from a more pragmatic approach. Apathy lead to 9/11. Bin Laden had the time of his life during the Clinton Administration. He blew up everything he could and Bill did nothing (except get head from some fat intern). Clinton looked the other way. By looking the other way, he made us look weak. As for homeland, it was consolidation (Republican style).

Thank you for showing me how to come to the table without "heavy baggages of prejudices". I need to learn to be more objective and focused on the facts like you.

Give me a break.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Maybe the Republican traitors in Congress who harrassed and distracted him for the 8 years he was in office should have thought about that. The scumbags "questioned Clinton's timing" when he attacked Al-Qaeda camps and Iraq. They didn't want to change the subject to terrorism or Iraq, they just wanted Monica, Monica, Monica. They put their party ahead of their country.

Amen. That was the real scandal.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Dari
We are living in a new reality. A new Rome, if you will. People are uncomfortable with one nation having such supreme powers. Anyone here that thinks we will pay for our actions doesn't understand where the world is heading.

Your rah rah rah America attitude seams to have blinded you to the fact that Rome fell. I'm pretty sure there was a Dari many hundreds of years ago who could never have dreamt that Rome would not last forever. Bad policies, bad leadership. I just hope that it does not happen in my life time, but that will depend on how many Bush and Co. type admins we have in the future.

 

[AndrewR]

Yep, same Republicans who have no problem blaming Clinton for Somalia all but absolve Bush for his failure to prevent 9/11 as a SITTING PRESIDENT.

Clinton was faulted legitimately for Somalia. While Bush Sr. started the plan of going into Somalia, it was Clinton's administration who DENIED HEAVY ARMOR to the forces there because it would be seen as "escalating the conflict". That denial led directly to the inability of the American forces to rescue the downed helicopter crews without taking serious casualties. Read some history.

The same republicans who take all the credit for balancing the budget under a Democrat president cannot (or don't want to) even do so with their own guy in the White House. The same Republicans who are claiming to be cutting taxes in a downturn to stimulate the economy actually weighted most of the taxcuts towards the end of the decade instead of now. Does it mean we are going to be in a downturn for another 7 years? If Bush stays in office, I wouldn't doubt it.

Is English your third language? President Bush cannot balance the budget right now because of the twin demands of the Global War on Terrorism and the economic problems which require additional spending. Implicit in the GWOT is the need to rebuild the military after 8 years of Clintonian neglect, much like the 4 years of Carter neglect which Reagan was forced to address. Do you or have you serve(d) in the military? Do you have any idea of the problems in the military as the result of a lack of funding?

The same Republicans who claim there is plenty of "information" to date linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda, fail to present any FACTS linking Saddam to any Al-Qaeda terrorist acts.

You apparently missed the part about information being scant. Do you deny that there are proven links between Saddam and al'Qaida?

The same Republicans who want us to extrapolate on scant information, fail to extrapolate on this ample information:
Clinton: 8 years of peace and prosperity. Bush: 3 years of war, tragedy, and economic downturn. Why don't you go extrapolate on that information?

You are seriously delusional. Perhaps you forgot about Somalia (18 American dead -- really peaceful), Kosovo, Khobar Towers, the USS Cole, Kenya and Tanzania embassies. You do also realize that the economic downturn started under Clinton's watch, yet you hold him not accountable at all? That would be funny if it weren't sad.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Dari
We are living in a new reality. A new Rome, if you will. People are uncomfortable with one nation having such supreme powers. Anyone here that thinks we will pay for our actions doesn't understand where the world is heading.

Your rah rah rah America attitude seams to have blinded you to the fact that Rome fell. I'm pretty sure there was a Dari many hundreds of years ago who could never have dreamt that Rome would not last forever. Bad policies, bad leadership. I just hope that it does not happen in my life time, but that will depend on how many Bush and Co. type admins we have in the future.

Great nations become small and small nations become great, that was what Herodotus called the WHEELS OF FORTUNE. Sadly, it seems like you can't wait for us to fall.

 

[Pers]

i really hate republicans.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: Dari
We are living in a new reality. A new Rome, if you will. People are uncomfortable with one nation having such supreme powers. Anyone here that thinks we will pay for our actions doesn't understand where the world is heading.

Your rah rah rah America attitude seams to have blinded you to the fact that Rome fell. I'm pretty sure there was a Dari many hundreds of years ago who could never have dreamt that Rome would not last forever. Bad policies, bad leadership. I just hope that it does not happen in my life time, but that will depend on how many Bush and Co. type admins we have in the future.

Great nations become small and small nations become great, that was what Herodotus called the WHEELS OF FORTUNE. Sadly, it seems like you can't wait for us to fall.

Perhaps his intention is to prevent "the fall", not to wish for it. Perhaps the "rah rah'ers" are the ones speeding the nation to "the fall"?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: AndrewR
Yep, same Republicans who have no problem blaming Clinton for Somalia all but absolve Bush for his failure to prevent 9/11 as a SITTING PRESIDENT.

Clinton was faulted legitimately for Somalia. While Bush Sr. started the plan of going into Somalia, it was Clinton's administration who DENIED HEAVY ARMOR to the forces there because it would be seen as "escalating the conflict". That denial led directly to the inability of the American forces to rescue the downed helicopter crews without taking serious casualties. Read some history.

The same republicans who take all the credit for balancing the budget under a Democrat president cannot (or don't want to) even do so with their own guy in the White House. The same Republicans who are claiming to be cutting taxes in a downturn to stimulate the economy actually weighted most of the taxcuts towards the end of the decade instead of now. Does it mean we are going to be in a downturn for another 7 years? If Bush stays in office, I wouldn't doubt it.

Is English your third language? President Bush cannot balance the budget right now because of the twin demands of the Global War on Terrorism and the economic problems which require additional spending. Implicit in the GWOT is the need to rebuild the military after 8 years of Clintonian neglect, much like the 4 years of Carter neglect which Reagan was forced to address. Do you or have you serve(d) in the military? Do you have any idea of the problems in the military as the result of a lack of funding?

The same Republicans who claim there is plenty of "information" to date linking Iraq to Al-Qaeda, fail to present any FACTS linking Saddam to any Al-Qaeda terrorist acts.

You apparently missed the part about information being scant. Do you deny that there are proven links between Saddam and al'Qaida?

The same Republicans who want us to extrapolate on scant information, fail to extrapolate on this ample information:
Clinton: 8 years of peace and prosperity. Bush: 3 years of war, tragedy, and economic downturn. Why don't you go extrapolate on that information?

You are seriously delusional. Perhaps you forgot about Somalia (18 American dead -- really peaceful), Kosovo, Khobar Towers, the USS Cole, Kenya and Tanzania embassies. You do also realize that the economic downturn started under Clinton's watch, yet you hold him not accountable at all? That would be funny if it weren't sad.

You are twisting my words or selectively answering my questions.
Why is Bush not responsible for 9/11 if he did precisely zero to fight terrorism prior to that event?
If we need to stimulate economy now, why is Bush weighing these taxcuts towards the end of the decade, and trying to lock them in beyond that point?
What was wrong with military cuts done by Clinton given how we didn't have USSR to fight anymore, couldn't afford to pay for the military without going into debts, and the military that Clinton left behind performed just fine in Afganistan? Precisely what about this war on terrorism requires defense spending in excess of 350 billion dollars at a time of huge GOP produced deficits?
How many US citizens died in all these terrorist acts over 8 years of Clinton administration. How many died in the first year of Bush administration? Links aren't the same thing as support. There are countries that have a lot more links to Al-Qaeda than Iraq, including the US, which funded all these terrorists when they fought in Afghanistan in the 80's.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Pers
i really hate republicans.

Well they do seem rather intent on dividing America and demonizing anybody who might not agree with them.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pers
i really hate republicans.

Well they do seem rather intent on dividing America and demonizing anybody who might not agree with them.

Sure Red, and the liberals are all enclusive and tolerant of others viewpoints.

I almost gagged when I typed that.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pers
i really hate republicans.

Well they do seem rather intent on dividing America and demonizing anybody who might not agree with them.

You cant judge all Republicans to be the same, there are those who are absolutely reasonable and honest. Unfortunately it seems all the bad seeds are the most outspoken ones.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pers
i really hate republicans.

Well they do seem rather intent on dividing America and demonizing anybody who might not agree with them.

Sure Red, and the liberals are all enclusive and tolerant of others viewpoints.

I almost gagged when I typed that.

I guess it seems like it's just the Republicans because I usually ignore the Liberals as irrelevent.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pers
i really hate republicans.

Well they do seem rather intent on dividing America and demonizing anybody who might not agree with them.

You cant judge all Republicans to be the same, there are those who are absolutely reasonable and honest. Unfortunately it seems all the bad seeds are the most outspoken ones.

True.

 

[wirelessenabled]

Originally posted by: Dari
By removing Hussein, the US has effectively secured the realm. We now have powerful influences on the nations with the two largest reserves on the globe, in addition to removing a powerful threat. Never underestimate the unseen hand.

As for what that will do for this country: have you ever driven a car, bus,or airplane? Yes? Well guess what, price stabilization means more people will be spending money normally reserves for oil shocks to buy other things.

You talk as if oil is the only commodity the US uses. Oil is only about 3% of GDP. How is securing oil "securing the realm"?

Bush is pushing the deficit to about 3.6% of GDP. The oil price barely matters in this equation. The borrow and spend Republicans sink the nation for another decade or two. When you borrow 20% ($400 bil of $2 tril budget) the economy has to grow by way more than the 1 mil jobs Bush is trumpeting to allow tax revenues to cover the hole created.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Dari
We are living in a new reality. A new Rome, if you will. People are uncomfortable with one nation having such supreme powers. Anyone here that thinks we will pay for our actions doesn't understand where the world is heading.

Really? What happened to Rome? Where is it today? The Roman Empire lasted 1000 years, we have lasted 227. We have work to do.

 

[CaptnKirk]

and now because France and Germany didn't bow before the Burning Bush

I always love it when there is so much effort placed in fixing the blame, instead of fixing the problem.
Dosen't have the intergity to accept responsibility, so shift what you can to create a scapegoat.