The outrageous slander against ACORN

Phokus

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"On Sept. 15, 2009, my office began an investigation into possible criminality on the part of three ACORN employees," Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said in a one-paragraph statement issued Monday afternoon.

"That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found."

While the video by James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles seemed to show three ACORN workers advising a prostitute how to hide ill-gotten gains, the unedited version was not as clear, according to a law enforcement source.

"They edited the tape to meet their agenda," said the source.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...to_hide_money_from_prostit.html#ixzz0kXMsH1AH

So just what was on those leaked unedited tapes?

When conservative activists James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles released tapes last fall purporting to show ACORN employees advising them on how to set up a child prostitution ring, it resulted in widespread praise for their intrepid journalism and a Congressional defunding of the anti-poverty group. But it is now becoming clear to all but their most fervent supporters that the O'Keefe "expose" was deliberately misleading.

"If you were a member of Congress and you voted to defund ACORN because of the outrage portrayed in these tapes," MSNBC's Rachel Maddow proclaimed on Tuesday, "you were had."

Last week, California Attorney Gerneral Jerry Brown released some of O'Keefe's raw footage, which he obtained as part of an agreement not to prosecute O'Keefe for violating state privacy laws. Maddow reviewed several of the most severe distortions revealed by the footage, starting with O'Keefe's claim that he was wearing his outrageous pimp outfit when he visited the ACORN offices.

That claim, which Brad Friedman at Brad Blog has been debunking for months, was promoted heavily by Fox News and swallowed uncritically by most of the mainstream media. The unedited tape of O'Keefe's visit to the ACORN office in San Diego, however, includes a shot of his arm as he opens the door to leave, and he is clearly wearing a nicely pinstriped dress shirt.

The edited video released by O'Keefe also appears to show an ACORN employee advising him on how to smuggle underage girls into the United States. O'Keefe is heard off-camera saying, "What things do you need from me in terms of the shipment information," and the employee replies, "It's better if it's in Tijuana ... because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana." O'Keefe then goes on to say, "There's twelve of them. ... Twelve girls, they're like 13 to 15 years old."
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But as Maddow pointed out, in the previously unreleased portion of the video, the employee continues asking very detailed questions about O'Keefe's phone number and the exact time and location of the girls' arrival. "What's this ACORN guy going to do with all that information?" Maddow wondered. "Oh, he calls the police and reports what they've told him is going to be a crime."

According to Jerry Brown's report (pdf), "Immediately after the couple left, Vera telephoned his cousin, Detective Alejandro Hernandez, at the National City Police Department... [and said] that a self-admitted prostitute had been to the office and was discussing human smuggling."

"For that he ended up getting fired," Maddow noted wryly.

A final O'Keefe tape appeared to show a different ACORN employee reacting to the child prostitution scheme by saying enthusiastically, "You can do anything. ... Don't give up."

But the unedited tape reveals that the encouraging words came after O'Keefe had told the employee that he and his prostitute girlfriend were having trouble finding a house because she is "in a unique line of work." Her "never give up" meant to keep trying different banks until one said yes.

"This is not meant to excuse what ACORN has done wrong in the past," Maddow concluded. "But the huge tide of negative publicity ... was bullpucky. It was a dishonest political stunt that bears no resemblance to journalism and no resemblance to the actual facts. "

"But it worked," she added. "Who do you think is next on their list?"

This video is from MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show, broadcast April 6, 2010.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0407/maddow-raw-tapes-show-okeefe-lied/

My favorite part is how ACORN actually called the police after O'Keefe's visit

I'm going to make a few predictions:

1) There will be no retractions from Fox News or O'Keefe and Fox News will not cover the story (or at the very least cover it minimally and will spin it)

2) Conservatives will experience tremendous amounts of cognitive dissonance and will not ever admit that Fox News and O'Keefe pulled off one of the most despicable acts of slander and libel. Not only that, but they will continue to perpetuate the myth of ACORN as laid out originally by Fox News to anyone who will listen.

3) Congress won't fund ACORN again, despite the new revelations. The congress took the bait hook, line and sinker. People lied, ACORN died, etc. Too many idiots will never be able to take in this new info and no congressman's going to risk his seat over this. Yes, Fox news is that powerful.

Also before my conservative 'admirers' ask me where i've been all this time, i had to take on more work and i think i FINALLY am going to close on a house. I kinda hated the forum changeover and decided to take a break from ATOT and ATPN altogether, so don't focus so much on me and focus more on this disgusting display by Fox News and the vast rightwing conspiracy (as Hillary Clinton correctly called it).
 
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MotF Bane

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Damn, and I was thinking you were gone for good. In that case, I would like to be the first to welcome back another member of species Ignornoramous extremus var. democraticus.
 

Phokus

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Damn, and I was thinking you were gone for good. In that case, I would like to be the first to welcome back another member of species Ignornoramous extremus var. democraticus.

Well, i won't be staying long today, i have a shitload of work, i'm sure there will be other posters on the left to pickup the slack in this thread. I might visit sporadically and possibly come back fully after i close on my house.
 

Phokus

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must have been a 6 month

I was never banned or probated during this period (you can PM any mod to confirm this). I made the conscious decision to quit posting or even visiting AT on the very day the servers went down for the forums changeover, But hey, while we're slandering ACORN, why not go nuts.
 
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Atreus21

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I think the very worst that can be said is that Mr. O'Keefe has gone to the dark side, in that he's adopted the method of Michael Moore.
 

Genx87

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I was never banned or probated during this period (i made the conscious decision to quit posting or even visiting AT on the very day the servers went down for the forums changeover), you can PM any mod to confirm this. But hey, while we're slandering ACORN, why not go nuts.

Best decision you ever made for the rest of the board.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Damn, and I was thinking you were gone for good. In that case, I would like to be the first to welcome back another member of species Ignornoramous extremus var. democraticus.

P&N is obviously their feeding ground -- with nobodyknows, Dave McOwned, and now Phokus, their herd is quickly overrunning us.
 

Phokus

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Like i said

2) Conservatives will experience tremendous amounts of cognitive dissonance and will not ever admit that Fox News and O'Keefe pulled off one of the most despicable acts of slander and libel. Not only that, but they will continue to perpetuate the myth of ACORN as laid out originally by Fox News to anyone who will listen.

I gave conservatives here an easy out, they would rather focus on me than the story.

Sorry your whole ideology is corrupt and hasn't learned it's lessons from the days of G. Gordon Liddy/Richard Nixon/CREEP/Karl Rove/Lee Atwater etc.
 

Genx87

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Like i said



I gave conservatives here an easy out, they would rather focus on me than the story.

Sorry your whole ideology is corrupt and hasn't learned it's lessons from the days of G. Gordon Liddy/Richard Nixon/CREEP/Karl Rove/Lee Atwater etc.

I love how you dont get it.

Every ideology is corrupt, welcome to life numbnutz.
 
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I just love how none of the usual suspects are even acknowledging the content of the OP. I mean, it's like they aren't even trying, otherwise they would have dismissed the whole thing by now because it quotes Rachel Maddow.
 

PJABBER

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Even I am bored with the discussion about the corruption that is ACORN. Now, if you wanted to defend SEIU, that would be different!

How about posting on something that hasn't been discussed ad infinitum?
 

Phokus

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I love how you dont get it.

Every ideology is corrupt, welcome to life numbnutz.

"Would you vote for John McCain if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black baby?" - a Liberal.

Oh wait, no that was bush and rove.

The fact that you think there are liberal equivalents to these scumbags is quite hilarious.
 

Throckmorton

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Even I am bored with the discussion about the corruption that is ACORN. Now, if you wanted to defend SEIU, that would be different!

How about posting on something that hasn't been discussed ad infinitum?

Wow. Is this post real?
 

Blackjack200

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Damn, and I was thinking you were gone for good. In that case, I would like to be the first to welcome back another member of species Ignornoramous extremus var. democraticus.

must have been a 6 month

Best decision you ever made for the rest of the board.

P&N is obviously their feeding ground -- with nobodyknows, Dave McOwned, and now Phokus, their herd is quickly overrunning us.

There is that clever Phokus wit we all missed.

I love how you dont get it.

Every ideology is corrupt, welcome to life numbnutz.

I take it that none of the usual suspects have anything to say on the subject of the OP? Not surprising.
 

earthman

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The whole setup of this bogus "sting" operation was obvious to any intelligent person pretty much from day one. ACORN was just too tempting of a target. The Republicans don't like their lies and corruption exposed, and they hate voter registration drives.