It has been well known for quite some time that Europe is the MOST RACIST landmass on the face of the planet.
Of course, they will never admit it...
I am actually ashamed of our (US) media for avoiding this issue. The only US media to cover this at all have been Fox and Drudge. The rest sit in their mornonic bubble of idiocy. This has a potential to become a major event in Western history, yet the pompous media (elite) types ignore it.
Could it be that the liberal system of pushing people away and hiding the real issues does not work?
Of course, they will never admit it...
I am actually ashamed of our (US) media for avoiding this issue. The only US media to cover this at all have been Fox and Drudge. The rest sit in their mornonic bubble of idiocy. This has a potential to become a major event in Western history, yet the pompous media (elite) types ignore it.
Could it be that the liberal system of pushing people away and hiding the real issues does not work?
It's immigrants that are racists in here, they rob, rape and kill people that are not a part of their race or religion.
True, and tolerance is the biggest problem in european immigration policy. They should just shoot those people that are rioting, they don't deserve to live.
Those bastards have even burned people in their cars!
Immigrants are the problem, not us europeans. We have paid their living for years, have given a chance for a better life, but they thank us by accusing of racism.
Then they thank us even more by gang raping women, and by doubleing our crime rates (at least).
But they are not greatful enough, so they start rioting and killing us with suicide bombing..
Nice way to say thank you. :|
btw, are we really racists here?
Because wont admit it, you don't need to show anything to back your claims? :roll:
Racism is a good thing if you are smart, just look at Japan, they are doing fine and it's a racist country.
And why only whites are called racists, and why only racist whites are unacceptable?
ps. Most racist are muslim and african countries.
Bad weather may have contributed... why didn't you bring that up?
It was ridiculous for you to even try to pin it on the US, in part or in whole. There are far more relevant causes for what is happening over there; French behavior and muslim immigrant behavior... and yet you still point the finger at the United States... its a pathological desire to blame us IMO. In every age there exists people who irrationally blame all the bad of the world on a single entity... whether its Satan, the Jews, America ... anything.
And your comment that we are discussing this to distract from Abu Graihb is even dumber. REALLY stupid.
Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
It's immigrants that are racists in here, they rob, rape and kill people that are not a part of their race or religion.
True, and tolerance is the biggest problem in european immigration policy. They should just shoot those people that are rioting, they don't deserve to live.
Those bastards have even burned people in their cars!
Immigrants are the problem, not us europeans. We have paid their living for years, have given a chance for a better life, but they thank us by accusing of racism.
Then they thank us even more by gang raping women, and by doubleing our crime rates (at least).
But they are not greatful enough, so they start rioting and killing us with suicide bombing..
Nice way to say thank you. :|
btw, are we really racists here?
Sorry, but polls show that the vast majority of Europeans describe themselves as racist.
Maybe they see the problems in America with racial crap and would rather be left alone. (Crime rates of minorities and the general degradation of an area when there's too many people and not enough jobs)
Why is it any country that isn't run by either Caucasians or Asians is a hellhole?
Umm, I must have missed the hurricane incident. Could you direct me to a place where this was reported?
I am still waiting for evidence that the French feel this way.
Regarding the "moral superpower" argument, I think that the Europeans feel that way because of the evil that they have historically perpetrated. I think that they feel they've learned their lesson through experience, not in-born innocence.
Is this arrogant? Yes. Is this erroneous? We'll see how this current situation turns out in the long run, I guess. This cultural rift is the first time Western Europe as a whole has been challenged along racial lines in awhile. I hope that their actions end up matching their rhetoric. I wish I could say I was optimistic.
I'm talking about Europeans overall, not only the French. However, you can easily find times that the French feel this way. Back in the 90s during the LA riots, the Chicago Sun-Times stated:
"the consensus of French pundits is that something on the scale of the Los Angeles riots could not happen here, mainly because France is a more humane, less racist place with a much stronger commitment to social welfare programs."
The Washington Post quoted Mitterand as saying that the riots were to blame on conservative society that Reagan and Bush I created and that it couldn't happen in France because it ""is the country where the level of social protection is the highest in the world."
These types of things are VERY common in Europe, most recently with the hurricane disasters. This is one of the reasons I feel that this sort of thing has happened. They believe themselves to be free of inperfections and refuse to criticize themselves (instead criticize others while pretending that they are free from problems) until the situation has exploded.
Considering France's organization of the Rwanda Genocide, I think it is erroneous.
South America isn't a hellhole? I'll alert the illegal immigrants than risk life and limb to leave it. The natural parts are beautiful, but the rest is an utter failure of a civilization.
I think this is simply a natural progression for Europe. This was inevitable due to the attitudes of many Europeans, IMO.
Yeah, I still have never seen overwhelming evidence of that. The best I've ever seen is that France was training militia in a country in the middle of a civil war. Militia that were later used to perpetrate massacres, but I've never seen evidence that that was the French's intention.
Imperialistic behavour? Yes. But not intrinsically worse than the US equipping members of the Northern Alliance. The consequences, in this case, was worse, and some ethical responsibility does lie there.
I'm not opposed to the idea that the French might have had a greater role than that, but I havn't seen any evidence reported. If you have more, I'm willing to listen. PM me if it's too off-topic.
I darkly enjoyed the irony of the Mitterand statement.
Edit: Even without stronger evidence re: Rwanda, the French can easily be indicted on their handling of the Algeria seccession.
1) We have a French soldier admitting to seeing his colleagues train people for the genocide
2) president of Rwanda claiming France was involved
3) the UN-backed tribunal claims to have enough evidence to try France for genocide
4) survivors of the genocide saw fellow refugees tossed out of helicopters by French soldiers
5) the European Court of "Human Rights" slammed France for inaction against pro-genocidists living in France
6) the French humanitarian group Doctors without Borders claimed that French soldiers "protected the killers and gave them weapons"
7) a civilian investigatory panel made of lawyers, historians, and leaders of human rights groups claim that French forces helped the genocidists more than the victims
8) human rights group Survie claims that France had an active role in the genocide
9) newspaper Le Figaro publishes series of articles documenting French role in the genocide
10) Diplomatically the French failed to criticize rumors of the genocide when Western ambassadors made a joint protest to the Rwandan government. Claimed that it was "only rumors."
11) Mitterand claims "In countries like that, a genocide is not very important."
12) French provided weapons in defiance of UN embargo on arms shipments
13) Human rights groups including Paris-based International Federation for Human Rights criticize French authorities in regards to Rwanda Genocide
It's not so much that Europeans in general hate the US or it's people. It's that they dislike your current administration and are seriously sick of its behavior. There's a slight difference there.
But, yes. There are extremist US bashers here, just as there are Euro bashers in the US. I've lived in both places and seen it with my own eyes. But you don't really have to look further then this forum to identify some of them. But these people are still a minority, regardless of the hyperbole some people use to state otherwise. A loud minority, but a minority none the less.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Sorry, but polls show that the vast majority of Europeans describe themselves as racist.Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
btw, are we really racists here?
If wast majority are racists, then we should lynch our politicians because they don't make decicions that the majority wants.
Our politicians are destroying europe with all those loosers, that often are only capable of rioting and raping.
ps. our racism is NOT the reason for rioting, it's their racism towards us.
Another European again showing how there is a fundamental difference between Europeans and American/Canadians in regards to race relations.
You have just shown a fundamental problem that is very very prevalent in Europe.
You have just shown a fundamental problem that is very very prevalent in Europe.
Why we should support immigrants that just keep on robbing, raping, rioting and accusing us for not giving enough free stuff?
If people from africa have lower IQ, and that they are incapable of keeping up with learning curve of caucasians and asians, what can we do?
Should we give them job as a surgeon only because they want to?
Should we give them luxurious apartments because they are incapable of achieving it on their own?
:|
ps. just look at some ghettos in the US and tell me are they doing any better?
I'm not sure why you're rambling about those statements to me, but you're yet again showing that there is a very large difference between racism in Europe and the US/Canada...it's simply far more accepted in Europe.
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