The Oliver Stone - Mel Gibson double standard

[Moonbeam]

The REAL question is, if you mentioned Red Dawn's ass while out in the forest, and he never heard you mention it, did you really mention it at all?

- wolf

Only if it's a forest of ass hairs. I'd know then that Dawn's ears couldn't be too far away.

 

[theeedude]

librul media, obviously

 

[hal2kilo]

Let's add another one. Woodie Allen more than once in his movies, (most recently Deconstructing Harry) makes jabs at his Jewish heritage and family members. Especially when he jokingly claims people have made anti-semetic comments and acts paranoid.

Of course he's not one of those "good jews".

 

[tk149]

So if you put the express the same feelings in a more civilized fashion, that makes the feelings different?

Dude, Gibson was drunk, and said, rudely, the same damn thing Stone said. That the Jews run Hollywood and are responsible for wars.

Now, how is that different? Because Gibson used gutter talk when he said it?

Disclaimer: I haven't paid much attention to the media circus around Gibson and have only based my responses on the OP's article.

“[Expletive] Jews,’’ he raged. “The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.’’

is not the same as

Stone described these media-controlling Jews as “the most powerful lobby in Washington’’ — “hard workers’’ who “stay on top of every comment,’’ and are responsible for the fact that “Israel has [expletive]-up United States foreign policy for years.’’

There is a big difference between saying a group is responsible for all wars in the world, and saying a group has a strong lobby in Washington.

Also, Gibson's tirade is a better attention grabber than Stone's calm statement. In the world of popular media, it's all about headlines.

Certainly the MSM is biased, but I don't find this a good example.

 

[Amused]

Disclaimer: I haven't paid much attention to the media circus around Gibson and have only based my responses on the OP's article.



is not the same as



There is a big difference between saying a group is responsible for all wars in the world, and saying a group has a strong lobby in Washington.

Also, Gibson's tirade is a better attention grabber than Stone's calm statement. In the world of popular media, it's all about headlines.

Certainly the MSM is biased, but I don't find this a good example.

As I said before, one was just more eloquent than the other. Both have the same meanings and exact same mindset behind their comments. Just because Stone was sober and calm when he said it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Logically, both men are of the same mindset. Only people reacted with more emotion to Gibson's comments because his were more profane.

 

[tk149]

As I said before, one was just more eloquent than the other. Both have the same meanings and exact same mindset behind their comments. Just because Stone was sober and calm when he said it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Logically, both men are of the same mindset. Only people reacted with more emotion to Gibson's comments because his were more profane.

Ok so we can agree to disagree on the meaning behind the words, because I still don't see how Stone's comments can possibly be construed as “The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.’’

You do agree that people reacted with more emotion to Gibson's comments. Is it not logical then, that the media would make more use of Gibson's words than Stone's? The media is not interested in being unbiased. The media is interested in selling headlines.

 

[woolfe9999]

As I said before, one was just more eloquent than the other. Both have the same meanings and exact same mindset behind their comments. Just because Stone was sober and calm when he said it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Logically, both men are of the same mindset. Only people reacted with more emotion to Gibson's comments because his were more profane.

People have already mentioned that Gibson was an a-list actor at the time, while Stone was less famous.

I also pointed out that liberal journalist Helen Thomas was crucified and forced to retire over saying that Israeli Jews should return to Germany and Poland.

I think you should address these points.

- wolf