The old question ADM vs Intel

[Slicker]

Here is the deal. The last time I built a computer was five years ago and I am looking to build a new one. Even though I am ashamed to admitted it I have not keep up with anything regarding CPUs in the last few years. I will be using the computer mainly to play music and CounterStrike, I am going to build a system that will not slow me down. Anyway I am looking for at the ADM 2400+ the P4 2.4B CPUs. Any recommendations?

 

[Soulkeeper]

It's AMD buddy !!!

 

[Catiaudo]

AMD!!

 

[KidChaos]

AMD. Motherboard with nforce2 chipset.

 

[PhoenixOfWater]

[*]Epox Motherboard EP-8RDA $88.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]AMD Athlon XP 1700+ $65.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]2 stick of CORSAIR 256MB PC2700 DDR $162.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]ALBATRON GeForce 4 TI4680P TURBO $210.00 (Newegg.com)
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Total : $525

I would just go with the 1700+ and overclock it
the AMD 2400+ are $195.00 at googlegears.com
Total with AMD 2400+ : $655

or here a Intel system

[*]ALBATRON INTEL PX845PEV PRO $85.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]Pentium 4 2.4B GHz 512K 533MHz Northwood $193.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]CORSAIR 512MB PC2700 DDR $154.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]ALBATRON GeForce 4 TI4680P TURBO $210.00 (Newegg.com)
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Total: $642


or you can get a 1.8A for $144.00 and overclock it to 2.4Ghz
Total with 1.8a: $593

I add in the video card because you never told what you had..
I would go with the Intel with 1.8a or 2.4b
Hope that helps

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: PhoenixOfWater
[*]Epox Motherboard EP-8RDA $88.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]AMD Athlon XP 1700+ $65.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]2 stick of CORSAIR 256MB PC2700 DDR $162.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]ALBATRON GeForce 4 TI4680P TURBO $210.00 (Newegg.com)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total : $525

I would just go with the 1700+ and overclock it
the AMD 2400+ are $195.00 at googlegears.com
Total with AMD 2400+ : $655

or here a Intel system

[*]ALBATRON INTEL PX845PEV PRO $85.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]Pentium 4 2.4B GHz 512K 533MHz Northwood $193.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]CORSAIR 512MB PC2700 DDR $154.00 (Newegg.com)
[*]ALBATRON GeForce 4 TI4680P TURBO $210.00 (Newegg.com)
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Total: $642


or you can get a 1.8A for $144.00 and overclock it to 2.4Ghz
Total with 1.8a: $593

I add in the video card because you never told what you had..
I would go with the Intel with 1.8a or 2.4b
Hope that helps

hey this is a guy who doesn't upgrade a lot so I doubt he want to take the inherrent risk involved in ocing...Maybe, maybe not, but until he states he wants to oc I will consider him a user and not a tweaker....

Either 2400+ or 2.4ghz are fine....They run neck and neck and both systems side by side unless running the p4 with sdram instead of DDR I doubt you would notice the difference....

5 years makes me think of other avenues that likely need upgraded...Vid card??? I wouldn't get anything less then a GF2 Pro....HDD??? Are you running 7200rpm??? If not that is a good route...

 

[dullard]

Welcome to Anandtech.

For any computer chip that is 2400+ (2.4 GHz) or faster, the race is neck and neck between Intel and AMD. They will perform about the same and cost about the same. Just look at PhoenixOfWater's pricing of similar performing computers: $655 and $642. You'll be happy with either one. For CPUs that are slower, AMD is by far cheaper, so go with AMD.

Things to consider if you want to buy really soon:
1) AMD will release Barton most likely on Monday. It will have double the cache, and thus perform a few % better than the current Athlon chips. We are quite interested in seeing reviews. They might finally have something that can compete with Intel's top chip, the 3.06 GHz P4.
2) Intel won't likely have any new chips until mid March. If you can wait until then, you'll likely see hyperthreading (better performance when running more than one program - like virus software and a game for example) on most of its chips. Possibly a 3.2 GHz P4 will be out then as well.
3) Intel will slash prices on its chips by $50 each (except the very low end of course) on Feb 23. Amd will likely follow suit. Intel will have a major price cut late March.

For those 3 reasons, if I were to buy a computer, I'd really think now is the worst possible time. If you can wait 2.5 weeks, you'll get something much nicer or much cheaper.

 

[hoihtah]

is Epox Motherboard EP-8RDA pretty much where it's at for AMD mobos?

i've been out of the mobo/cpu scene for the last 6 months.
Thanx

 

[DAPUNISHER]

*yawn*

 

[KidChaos]

Epox 8RDA (non-plus) has neither LAN nor nVidia APU.

Slicker, check out the Abit NF7-S motherboard. I believe it has everything you could possibly want: Firewire, SATA (RAID), Meets all soundstorm requirements, nVidia APU, LAN.

Though NF7-S is a good overclocker, 8RDA+ is a better overclocker than NF7-S currently because it supports higher DIMM and processor voltages but Abit will release a new BIOS soon that will allow for higher voltages. If you're not an overclocker, all the more reason to pick the NF7-S.

 

[xSauronx]

holy christ

all that just for counterstrike and music?

tell me youre fvcking kidding

 

[mechBgon]

I don't think ADM has a ghost of a chance against Intel. But you never know.

 

[Tyson82]

I ahve to add my 2 cents here. I have a new appreciation for AMD since I just built a Celeron 1.7 system. Worst thing Ive ever spent my money on. Its got a radeon 7200 in it, and it gets worse 3dMark scores than my Duron 1.2 with a geforce 256. And my xp 1600 blows it away, oddly enough for about the same price.

There Im done. Intel blows, AMD rules.

Was that more than .02?

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Tyson82
And my xp 1600 blows it away, oddly enough for about the same price.

There Im done. Intel blows, AMD rules.

Is that XP system the one containing the GF4? I would certainly hope that it blows away the Celeron/SDRAM/7200.
Mental note: Next time you are tryng to determine which semiconductor corporation "blows", you might want to use similar components.

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Tyson82
And my xp 1600 blows it away, oddly enough for about the same price.

There Im done. Intel blows, AMD rules.

Is that XP system the one containing the GF4? I would certainly hope that it blows away the Celeron/7200.
Mental note: Next time you are tryng to determine which semiconductor corporation "blows", you might want to use similar components.

pwned.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Tyson82
And my xp 1600 blows it away, oddly enough for about the same price.

There Im done. Intel blows, AMD rules.

Is that XP system the one containing the GF4? I would certainly hope that it blows away the Celeron/SDRAM/7200.
Mental note: Next time you are tryng to determine which semiconductor corporation "blows", you might want to use similar components.

I don't think any P4 Celeron could be made justifyably fast. Last I knew I think the Celeron needs to be around 3Ghz in order to start to compete with a 1600+... Hell, you're probably better off with a VIA CPU if you want that kind of performance...cheaper and cooler too. I think my 300Mhz PII could give the P4 Celeron a run for its money - neither chip should be used to do much more than word process and light surfing, lol.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Tyson82
And my xp 1600 blows it away, oddly enough for about the same price.

There Im done. Intel blows, AMD rules.

Is that XP system the one containing the GF4? I would certainly hope that it blows away the Celeron/SDRAM/7200.
Mental note: Next time you are tryng to determine which semiconductor corporation "blows", you might want to use similar components.

I don't think any P4 Celeron could be made justifyably fast. Last I knew I think the Celeron needs to be around 3Ghz in order to start to compete with a 1600+... Hell, you're probably better off with a VIA CPU if you want that kind of performance...cheaper and cooler too. I think my 300Mhz PII could give the P4 Celeron a run for its money - neither chip should be used to do much more than word process and light surfing, lol.

Oh, I'm surely not going to tell you that a Celeron is a powerful cpu. And although I disagree with it being similar to a C3 or P2-300mhz... I see your point.

But this guy's methodology leaves A LOT to be desired.

If I put a GF4 with a Celeron and a 7200 with an XP, can I state that AMD "blows"?

 

[PliotronX]

I prefer ADM because they make ethanol.

 

[shortcircuits]

Athlon XP 2400+ (2,00 GHz) or Intel Pentium 4 2,40 GHz. The difference between those two CPUs are probably not noticable. So your choiche will be dependent on other factors:
- Choosing for the popular brand Intel, or supporting the underdog AMD
- Choosing for more MHz or a more advanced core
- Intel-based systems are usually more silent than AMD-based systems
- Possibly: stability issues

My personal favorite is the Intel Pentium 4 2,40 GHz (533 MHz FSB). In the early P4 era, that processor was quite slow for the clock speed, but nowadays Intel has raised the FSB to 533 MHz and the L2 cache size to 512 KB. Also the chipsets for the Pentium 4 (and the Athlon XP as well) are far better than in the beginning.

If I have to make a general choiche between Intel and AMD, I would recommend:
- up to the 2200 level: AMD (because of the price)
- 2400: Intel, but AMD is also a good choice
- 2500 and above: Intel (because the clock speed gap between Intel and AMD rapidly increases)

The next price cuts are scheduled on February 23.

 

[bgeh]

i'd go with AMD because it is cheaper
even though the most benchmarks show that intel has a slight lead, but the mobo they use is usually a i850e, which uses PC1066 and is very expensive

 

[yhelothar]

definately AMD..

cuz you don't even need that much power
i'd get
athlon 1700+ - $50
epox 8rda - $85
256MB PC2700 -$35
TNT2 or used voodoo 3 - $10
or if you plan on playing other games.. radeon 8500LE $75

that'd be way overkill for what you're doing... really you just need a 750MHz Duron with used KT133a mobo and 128MB PC133 ram and TNT2 all for $60 or so?

 

[touchmyichi]

Hmmmm...

AMD is a much better deal, but when u reach the 2400+ and 2.4 ghz speed, the price is pretty much break even and the preformance is about equal. I would still choose amd because of the better upgrade path and nforce 2. Praise the lord for nforce 2, without it amd would be screwed.

 

[zephyrprime]

Archer Daniels Midland is the way to go!!

 

[zephyrprime]

I'd go with Intel. They've got the advantage over AMD for the time being. Plus, if you plan on keeing your computer for a while, the Intel socket 473 platform has a longer life ahead of it. The AMD socket A is being retired soon. Lastly, the P4's can overclock very well.

 

[Drsignguy]

[/quote]Oh, I'm surely not going to tell you that a Celeron is a powerful cpu. And although I disagree with it being similar to a C3 or P2-300mhz... I see your point.

But this guy's methodology leaves A LOT to be desired.

If I put a GF4 with a Celeron and a 7200 with an XP, can I state that AMD "blows"? [/quote]



Definatly YES!

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