The Official Xbox One Thread

[smackababy]

remember, tomorrow at 9am EST we get the first X1 reviews from ign! excited to read about killer instinct, crimson dragon, and wanna see what they say about the framerate in dead rising 3.

I've heard DR3 stutters due to the number of zombies, but not exactly how much or how bad. Hope I can read some at work tomorrow.

 

[Seven]

Deteled

 

[tential]

I am not interested in it since there is zero single player. I dont mind playing online sometimes but I want to be able to practice a bit on my own.

I don't think developers enjoy spending time on a SP just so people can "practice".
The point is people play and enjoy the story line.

TitanFall is just the evolution of what gamers like you have done. You spend the majority of your time on the online part of the game, so devs are doing the same.
If players spend 5% of the time on SP, and 95% of the time on MP, and devs do the same, then SP gets thrown out since 5% of time isn't enoguht odproduce a single player. Gamers are just showing they prefer the MP aspect of games.

 

[Wingznut]

I've heard DR3 stutters due to the number of zombies, but not exactly how much or how bad. Hope I can read some at work tomorrow.

The optimist in me says "Yeah, but those reports may be of a beta version", which may very well be true. But yeah, I guess we'll figure it out in a few hours.

 

[Subyman]

I don't think developers enjoy spending time on a SP just so people can "practice".
The point is people play and enjoy the story line.

TitanFall is just the evolution of what gamers like you have done. You spend the majority of your time on the online part of the game, so devs are doing the same.
If players spend 5% of the time on SP, and 95% of the time on MP, and devs do the same, then SP gets thrown out since 5% of time isn't enoguht odproduce a single player. Gamers are just showing they prefer the MP aspect of games.

The problem is I may buy a game and spent five hours in the single player. Another person may buy the game and spend 95 hours in multiplayer. That's still only two copies of the game sold. Multiplayer guys usually spend more money on the DLC and add on content though.

Just looking at time though is not enough. I most likely wouldn't buy a game if there was not a single player element or at least a cooperative mode like borderlands 2 or what destiny is going to turn out to be.

 

[Subyman]

I don't consider it selling out. MS probably told them they could have complete creative control as well as all the money they would need to follow their vision. They need another franchise as strong as Halo to push the Xbox One forward and it looks like they got it. Gotta give MS props for locking it down before the console is even released. I wonder what Sony has planned to counter it.

As to the annual franchise comment, that's just a sad truth with gaming today. If the COD franchise taught us anything, it's that company's can have extraordinary success taking the same game and swapping the textures out every year. Who can blame them when these games easily make over half a billion dollars of revenue per release? Until we as a community stop buying them, we can't expect developers to abandon a proven cash machine.

Selling out is probably a little harsh. But I hate to see those guys move away from something like call of duty and repeat the cycle again. Oh believe me I quit buying call of duty after modern warfare.

How is it funny? They left to do their own thing and be successful at it. Seems like they are on the right track and probably will make a healthy profit.

If that's "selling out", what's the downside?

Being under the wing financially of one of the large console manufacturers puts a certain amount of pressure on the company to make sure fire decisions on what is profitable instead of trying to be innovative and take a risk. I'm not saying the Titan fall franchise will be neutered but I wouldn't feel as apprehensive for its future if the developer was in complete control.

 

[blurredvision]

Selling out is probably a little harsh. But I hate to see those guys move away from something like call of duty and repeat the cycle again. Oh believe me I quit buying call of duty after modern warfare.

I think you guys are making much ado about nothing. The first Titanfall game isn't out yet and you're already comparing it to CoD because EA sold exclusivity to Microsoft platforms? That has nothing to do with what's wrong with the CoD franchise one bit.

With that said, if I were EA or Activision, I'd do whatever would make me more money. Microsoft must have offered a pretty penny to convince EA they wouldn't have made more money otherwise by eventually releasing on the PS4.

 

[cmdrdredd]

The optimist in me says "Yeah, but those reports may be of a beta version", which may very well be true. But yeah, I guess we'll figure it out in a few hours.

Remember knack got hammerednin reviews but people with it seem to enjoy it. So it is possible that it may be a good title still.

 

[Wingznut]

IGN's Killer Instinct Review

The Verdict
The sad truth about fighting games is that much of what makes playing them against others interesting is usually kept obscured. Killer Instinct succeeds enormously at exposing all of that information to players of all skill levels. Not only is its combat system flashy and well thought out, it's well explained too, thanks to its powerful training tools, and what is easily the most complete guide to terminology and tactics ever assembled in a fighting game. Though it lacks an arcade mode or a full-sized character roster, Killer Instinct delivers where it counts.

8.4 GREAT
Though the roster limits the possibilities a bit, Killer Instinct makes a triumphant return with smart, fluid fighting.

+Excellent tutorials
+Smart combat system
+Gorgeous effects

– Limited roster
– Character art

 

[Wingznut]

IGN's Crimson Dragon Review

The Verdict
Crimson Dragon works well enough as a straight arcade shooter, and there’s plenty of challenge in it. There’s some nostalgic value, too, but it’s weak graphics and frustrating free-flight boss fights make it tough to enjoy the stroll down memory lane.

5.9 MEDIOCRE
Crimson Dragon is a competent arcade shooter, but its heavy grinding and weak presentation drag down the pace.

+Good on-rail controls
+Deep RPG elements

– Dull presentation
– Lame A.I. characters
– Free-flying controls

 

[Wingznut]

IGN's LocoCycle Review

The Verdict
If nothing else, LocoCycle earns its name. It’s got not one, but two sentient motorcycles, and buckets full of loco. I imagine I’ll have forgotten what LocoCycle played like long before I forget its unapologetically zany live-action bits, and its questionable treatment of Pablo. Its inconsistent gameplay becomes tedious despite its imaginative variety, and its levels lack cohesion or a sense of momentum. Like the cheesy 90's films it apes, LocoCycle is memorable, but not quite good.

6.4 OKAY
LocoCycle earns its name with a metric ton of crazy, but its inconsistent, monotonous gameplay ultimately derails it.

+Zany and imaginative
+Loving 90s homage

– Inconsistent gameplay
– Last-gen visuals
– Some questionable humor

 

[Wingznut]

IGN's Powerstar Golf Review

The Verdict
Powerstar Golf manages to successfully marry an old-school arcade golf experience with some decidedly new-school ideas. The lack of proper online multiplayer is a bit of a blow, but the Rivals mode has the potential to provide an ongoing challenge after you’ve scooped up all of the career medals. It’s not a complete hole in (Xbox) One for golf fans, but it’s a good deal of fun if you desperately want to hit the links on your new machine.

7.0 GOOD
Powerstar Golf has last-gen looks but incorporates forward-thinking features, and is a fun way to hit the links.

+Addictive career
+Rivals mode
+Fun special abilities

– Last-gen looks
– Unremarkable courses

 

[purbeast0]

read the killer instinct review and think it's pretty fair because it does have little content at launch. but i do find things like this funny, just showing you exactly how clueless these reviewers are about what they are reviewing.

But where the original cast was memorable in a cheesy 90s sci-fi kind of way, their new designs don’t fare quite as well. Jago looks less like a ninja and more like a goofy cross between a monk and a Roman soldier

jago IS and always has been a monk, he isn't a ninja.

 

[ImpulsE69]

So...since these games are getting..luke warm reviews as well, can we assume now that MS didn't buy off all the PS4 reviews? Sounds to me like the reviewers are just as "meh" about the release games as most of us who decided to wait it out. I played a bit of Knack on a friends PS4 --- and agree with the reviews. I am thinking the enamored are really just trying to justify all the money they just dropped and find the good in it. :/

(and pur, don't expect the reviewers to be obsessed with KI like you are, it's actually one of the higher reviewed games...we get it, you like the game something tells me it could really be bad and you'd still be humping it's leg haha -- no offense intended).

 

[Imported]

Significantly better than 4? Most of the footage seems marginally better than 4. Not sure why I'm asking. I burnt myself out on 2.

Yes, significantly better. The X1 and Forza still won't be a day one purchase for me, but it definitely piqued my interest a lot more after playing it. Though the Pagani I was using had the shittiest tires ever. Not a good way to sell the game for the average person.

 

[Wingznut]

So...since these games are getting..luke warm reviews as well, can we assume now that MS didn't buy off all the PS4 reviews? Sounds to me like the reviewers are just as "meh" about the release games as most of us who decided to wait it out.

Damn Sony! IGN is totally in their pockets for these reviews!

As for these reviews, they are all XBox Live titles. Anything above lukewarm would be surprising.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Damn Sony! IGN is totally in their pockets for these reviews!

As for these reviews, they are all XBox Live titles. Anything above lukewarm would be surprising.

Yea that's a good point actually.

 

[purbeast0]

So...since these games are getting..luke warm reviews as well, can we assume now that MS didn't buy off all the PS4 reviews? Sounds to me like the reviewers are just as "meh" about the release games as most of us who decided to wait it out. I played a bit of Knack on a friends PS4 --- and agree with the reviews. I am thinking the enamored are really just trying to justify all the money they just dropped and find the good in it. :/

(and pur, don't expect the reviewers to be obsessed with KI like you are, it's actually one of the higher reviewed games...we get it, you like the game something tells me it could really be bad and you'd still be humping it's leg haha -- no offense intended).

i got knack (and my ps4) for free and bought killzone, and i like knack more than killzone. so it has nothing to do with justifying all the money dropped on it.

 

[Wingznut]

Yea that's a good point actually.

Which point... About Sony buying off IGN? Thanks.

 

[Aikouka]

read the killer instinct review and think it's pretty fair because it does have little content at launch.

I do wish they would have at least noted the upcoming content -- especially since it's free!

 

[purbeast0]

I do wish they would have at least noted the upcoming content -- especially since it's free!

they really didn't go into any depth at all to be honest. i mean their only negatives about it are that they don't like the character designs, and then go on to mention only 2 character designs they didn't like, and one of them was because jago doesn't look like a ninja anymore but looks like a monk warrior - which is EXACTLY what jago is. they hardly even talk about any of the fight mechanics other than the combo/counter breaker, which is cool though because that is really one of the big new things that will cause mind games within the combos. they did go into good details about the training mode.

but i also realize they have to keep these reviews for the general audience as well so they can't go into too much detail. but i agree, they didn't mention at all the content coming down the pipe, and they didn't even mention the original killer instinct coming with the different versions, let alone, that there are different versions at all and even a free version.

 

[purbeast0]

2 more ki reviews.

http://www.oxmonline.com/killer-instinct-xbox-one-review

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/killer-instinct-review

 

[purbeast0]

this makes me a sad panda about ki though

After logging nearly 100 games, I've found the game's online performance to be silky smooth. I experienced a couple of instances in which the opposing character seemed to teleport around the screen, which is how lag is presented in the "rollback" architecture of the netcode. However, even these glitches were few and far between. The only serious issues I had with the online play is that there's no way to tell where your opponent is located (not even a ping listing), and there's no lobby system. Whether you're playing exhibition matches or ranked matches, it's always one-on-one. There's no way to watch another match aside from the Game DVR built into the Xbox One; KI automatically records your last 200 matches, online or local.

i do know they want to get that in asap, but it sucks that it's not there initially.

 

[smackababy]

this makes me a sad panda about ki though



i do know they want to get that in asap, but it sucks that it's not there initially.

Sounds kind of like MVC3 when it came out. No online spectator mode. I'm sure this will be patched in, otherwise, it is rather silly.

 

[purbeast0]

Sounds kind of like MVC3 when it came out. No online spectator mode. I'm sure this will be patched in, otherwise, it is rather silly.

yep and mvc3 was pretty bad. i do know that there is a lobby option in KI that is grayed out in the demo they have shown, so i'm pretty sure it is in there just not ready yet. filthierich had said that they would let us know about the online stuff this week though and what to expect from it.