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HomerJS

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sounds about white, 2 years probation
Meanwhile Crystal Mason got 5 years in jail for casting a provisional ballot that she thought was legal. She didn't know she was ineligible. Sounds about black.

Maybe that Iranian World Cup reporter has a point.
 

outriding

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Meanwhile Crystal Mason got 5 years in jail for casting a provisional ballot that she thought was legal. She didn't know she was ineligible. Sounds about black.

Maybe that Iranian World Cup reporter has a point.

from what I read it should be 14-18 months jail time


I believe it is page 177

but if crystal got 5 years (I don’t think she deserved it and it should be wiped from her
Record)….

those fucktards deserve 50 years jail each
 
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HomerJS

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Lanyap

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No, it sends a clear message that maybe it's safer to stay home on election day. (read the article)


If you’re white you don’t have to worry about it.

My wife saw an article in her news feed recently that current vote-by-mail requests on file had been cancelled in Florida. I’m having to go to our county election website to put a new request in for me, my wife and her mom. I hope this creates a lot of confusion for old white repubs who had vote-by-mail requests on file and they are not able to vote in the next election.

 
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HomerJS

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Republicans completely suppressing the black vote in Mississippi. Gerrymandered blacck people out of all power in the largest majority black city in the state.
Mississippi’s capital city is 80% Black and home to a higher percentage of Black residents than any major American city. Mississippi’s Legislature is thoroughly controlled by white Republicans, who have redrawn districts over the past 30 years to ensure they can pass any bill without a single Democratic vote. Every legislative Republican is white, and most Democrats are Black.

‘Only in MS’: Lawmakers vote to create white-appointed court system for Blackest city in US (yahoo.com)
 

HomerJS

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pmv

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Meanwhile Crystal Mason got 5 years in jail for casting a provisional ballot that she thought was legal. She didn't know she was ineligible. Sounds about black.

Maybe that Iranian World Cup reporter has a point.

I was just listening to a discussion of the charges Trump faces (I still wouldn't dare guess how that all pans out).

They seemed to stress that on the electoral fraud case the prosecutors have to conclusively prove that Trump _knew_ he was lying when he claimed the election was 'stolen'. Which is a very hard thing to prove. Kind of reminiscent of claims that Blair wasn't lying about Iraq and WMDs, because he 'sincerely believed' the claims when he made them.

It's odd how for some folk they can't be considered guilty unless one can read their minds, whereas for others 'beliefs' and 'intent' don't matter. It's also odd the way that being stupid or delusional can be a great advantage in life.

Curiously, though, when I google the question I find two contradictory articles. Trouble is, that if there's any ambiguity about the topic it will presumably end up in front of Trump's pet Supreme Court?


 

fskimospy

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I was just listening to a discussion of the charges Trump faces (I still wouldn't dare guess how that all pans out).

They seemed to stress that on the electoral fraud case the prosecutors have to conclusively prove that Trump _knew_ he was lying when he claimed the election was 'stolen'. Which is a very hard thing to prove. Kind of reminiscent of claims that Blair wasn't lying about Iraq and WMDs, because he 'sincerely believed' the claims when he made them.

It's odd how for some folk they can't be considered guilty unless one can read their minds, whereas for others 'beliefs' and 'intent' don't matter. It's also odd the way that being stupid or delusional can be a great advantage in life.

Curiously, though, when I google the question I find two contradictory articles. Trouble is, that if there's any ambiguity about the topic it will presumably end up in front of Trump's pet Supreme Court?


Not as hard as you think!

 

pmv

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Not as hard as you think!


Well, I hope so. That Guardian article also suggested another angle. Just still comes back to the issue that if Trump can generate any ambiguity around it at all it will probably end up with the Supremes, Trump's ultimate defence team.

Anyway, am going off-topic, but just struck me as a contrast with the lack of emphasis on 'intent' in the voting case HomerJS cited.
 

HomerJS

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It was fairly clear in the Crystal Mason case she did not intend to do something illegal that would land her back in prison. She was just released

But to those white Republicans in Texas it didn’t matter. Meanwhile a nationwide attempt at election fraud all those Republicans are bending over backwards to give Trump a pass using intent.

I believe we found that 2 tier justice system Pubs bitch about

I’ll say this for the 100th time. Republicans are for law and order unless the perps look like them
 
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HomerJS

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Vivek tried to pull a fast one to further the GOP voter suppression effort. He wants one day to vote in person with a national holiday.

Problems? Most service workers would not get the day off. Think the country will come to a stop on Election Day? Democrats took advantage of mail in ballots which Republicans used to love. Now they want to end them. Districts with a majority POC already have a longer wait then primarily white districts. In GA white districts have an average wait of 7 min. In black districts it's 51 min. I some cases the wait is hours. Change to 1 day and the problem is exacerbated.

Republicans know what they are doing in their voter suppression quest.
 
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fskimospy

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Vivek tried to pull a fast one to further the GOP voter suppression effort. He wants one day to vote in person with a national holiday.

Problems? Most service workers would not get the day off. Think the country will come to a stop on Election Day? Democrats took advantage of mail in ballots which Republicans used to love. Now they want to end them. Districts with a majority POC already have a longer wait then primarily white districts. In GA white districts have an average wait of 7 min. In black districts it's 51 min. I some cases the wait is hours. Change to 1 day and the problem is exacerbated.

Republicans know what they are doing in their voter suppression quest.
The dumbest thing about all these voter suppression laws is no one can explain why this makes anything better, other than they think it makes them more likely to win.
 

hal2kilo

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gosh darn, all those socialists illegally voting...wait...another Republican? Yep, but will he get 5 years like Crystal?

That's why I call them the projectionist party.
 

HomerJS

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gosh darn, all those socialists illegally voting...wait...another Republican? Yep, but will he get 5 years like Crystal?

Crystal Mason got 5 years for the same thing. What do you think will happen to this guy? My guess, just a fine, max.

Here is your 2-tiered justice system.
 

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Wow! This appears to be the only example of a successful, medium or large scale ballot voter fraud ever found in the 2020 election (after 3 years, and hundreds of million wasted by GQP fake searching). Of course almost every actual fraud case found has been by insane or brainwashed Trump supporters, just like this one, which the GQP largely refuses to look into.

With a grand total of at least 23 fraudulent votes by ultra MAGA GQP wife for Trump and for her husband.
 

HomerJS

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Wow! This appears to be the only example of a successful, medium or large scale ballot voter fraud ever found in the 2020 election (after 3 years, and hundreds of million wasted by GQP fake searching). Of course almost every actual fraud case found has been by insane or brainwashed Trump supporters, just like this one, which the GQP largely refuses to look into.

With a grand total of at least 23 fraudulent votes by ultra MAGA GQP wife for Trump and for her husband.
Waiting to hear how much time she gets vs Crystal Mason. Anyone want to take a bet the black woman gets more total time for a single offense vs multiple offenses by this woman?
 

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'The apology letters that Donald Trump-allied lawyers Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro were required to write as a condition of their plea deals in the Georgia election interference case are just one sentence long.

The letters, obtained Thursday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution through an open records request, were hand-written and terse. Neither letter acknowledges the legitimacy of Democrat Joe Biden’s win in Georgia’s 2020 election nor denounces the baseless conspiracy theories they pushed to claim Trump was cheated out of victory through fraud.'

They obviously think the sentencing requirements are a joke, and that a single sentence acknowledging exactly nothing would be sufficient. It's on the Judge to call that shit out.