The Official PS4 Thread

[sze5003]

LOL. They may need to get some more games out though. Otherwise they will have given away the entire catalog by the end of the year.

I'm waiting for knack lol. I'm also glad I upgraded to a 1tb hd though. Need to remove the downloaded games I haven't been playing so far.

 

[Rage187]

PvZ will be on PSN this summer.

http://kotaku.com/plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-is-coming-to-playsta-1583201398


/allnet

 

[mmntech]

Umm they've been out a hell of a lot less time. Plus the PS4 has already eclipsed WiiU sales in a matter of months. At least with the PS4 and Xbone you get all the great third party releases in between the great first party games. Can't say that about the WiiU. Sucks because I really wish they would have succeeded but unfortunately they've stuck to their old ways and it just isn't working out anymore.

Adding to this, the PS4 and Xbone were certainly rushed to market. However, not like the Wii U was. Developers had said some critical features still weren't finished right up until the launch date. Which is why it required that massive 1GB day one patch. This made developing games for the console extremely difficult. There were also numerous issues with language barriers when developers outside Japan were trying to seek assistance. Eurogamer (IIRC) had a whole article on it a few months ago.

The Wii U is finally starting to get some good games. You do have to give it to Nintendo as they still really focus on different kinds of games aside from the usual dude bro shooters that end up on PS and Xbox. I wouldn't mind one at this point. Maybe when a new Zelda comes out or we get a true successor to Mario Galaxy.

I'm waiting for knack lol. I'm also glad I upgraded to a 1tb hd though. Need to remove the downloaded games I haven't been playing so far.

They still using the 5400rpm drives for the PS4? Newegg's got a 7200rpm one for $84 bucks that I'm tempted to pick up. Maybe boost performance a bit too if they're still using the slower ones as stock.

 

[sze5003]

Adding to this, the PS4 and Xbone were certainly rushed to market. However, not like the Wii U was. Developers had said some critical features still weren't finished right up until the launch date. Which is why it required that massive 1GB day one patch. This made developing games for the console extremely difficult. There were also numerous issues with language barriers when developers outside Japan were trying to seek assistance. Eurogamer (IIRC) had a whole article on it a few months ago.

The Wii U is finally starting to get some good games. You do have to give it to Nintendo as they still really focus on different kinds of games aside from the usual dude bro shooters that end up on PS and Xbox. I wouldn't mind one at this point. Maybe when a new Zelda comes out or we get a true successor to Mario Galaxy.




They still using the 5400rpm drives for the PS4? Newegg's got a 7200rpm one for $84 bucks that I'm tempted to pick up. Maybe boost performance a bit too if they're still using the slower ones as stock.

Yea I have a hitachi 1tb 7200 rpm drive I put in there. I don't know how much faster it is, still a bit better. I have no idea what stock speed is.

 

[Aikouka]

Starting in June psn+ members get two ps4 games per month and will be available to claim for longer (30 days).

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/29/ps-plus-to-offer-two-ps4-games-a-month-starting-june

Ah, that news article actually disappointed me. I saw the Dragon's Crown image, and I thought that meant we would be getting it. Unfortunately, that's for Europe only. 🙁

Nice...I got a beta code too for ps4 now. I have not been able to check it out yet.

I got one yesterday as well. I tried PS Now out this past weekend on the PS3 and last night on the PS4. I don't think we're supposed to talk much about it, but if you've used the two consoles, you can probably guess the difference in between the two experiences.

 

[sze5003]

I thought at one point were suppose to get that airplane game that only came out in the EU. We never did get it, I guess each region has a different set of games.

 

[cmdrdredd]

LOL. They may need to get some more games out though. Otherwise they will have given away the entire catalog by the end of the year.

There are zero retail games available for free via PSN+ on a PS4. They are all PSN only titles.

 

[cmdrdredd]

They still using the 5400rpm drives for the PS4? Newegg's got a 7200rpm one for $84 bucks that I'm tempted to pick up. Maybe boost performance a bit too if they're still using the slower ones as stock.

Apparently not every drive works on the PS4 for some reason. I've seen threads on the playstation community forums about some drives not allowing the system to function.

I thought at one point were suppose to get that airplane game that only came out in the EU. We never did get it, I guess each region has a different set of games.

That is free to play right? I think it's just not localized yet. Forgot about that one too.

 

[sze5003]

Apparently not every drive works on the PS4 for some reason. I've seen threads on the playstation community forums about some drives not allowing the system to function.

This is correct. I chose the hitachi travelstar drive because Ign did a video on how to replace it on ps4. Another member on ps4 forums tried a Samsung 1tb and the system would not boot the files on to it to install. He would just have a black screen after running the software install to the new drive.

 

[jdelrio22]

So since Microsoft decided to drop Kinect as mandatory, I decided to trade in my Xbox One (at a loss unfortunately) since now what I have is an Xbox that is not offering anything particularly different from a PS4.

I started playing Infamous which is bringing lots of memories from when I played the first one (good times). Any other game recommendations unique to the PS4?

How about that camera? Any use for it? Is it 'meh' at this time?

Can you put in an SSD into the PS4? Is it a big leap or not?

 

[zerocool84]

So since Microsoft decided to drop Kinect as mandatory, I decided to trade in my Xbox One (at a loss unfortunately) since now what I have is an Xbox that is not offering anything particularly different from a PS4.

I started playing Infamous which is bringing lots of memories from when I played the first one (good times). Any other game recommendations unique to the PS4?

How about that camera? Any use for it? Is it 'meh' at this time?

Can you put in an SSD into the PS4? Is it a big leap or not?

Camera is meh, most for if you want to stream yourself. No games to take advantage of it except for the built in mini games. Yes you can put in an SSD but like most articles have said, it's not worth the price for the little gain, they recommend a hybrid drive.

 

[sze5003]

Check out the psn games they offer for free every month. I have a 7200 rpm 1tb drive in there right now. Besides infamous, check out knack and mlb the show 14 if you like baseball.

 

[smackababy]

So since Microsoft decided to drop Kinect as mandatory, I decided to trade in my Xbox One (at a loss unfortunately) since now what I have is an Xbox that is not offering anything particularly different from a PS4.

What sense does this even attempt to make? If you already had the Kinect, how does them dropping it effect anything? Also, it was never mandatory (well, mandatory to buy).

 

[cmdrdredd]

So since Microsoft decided to drop Kinect as mandatory, I decided to trade in my Xbox One (at a loss unfortunately) since now what I have is an Xbox that is not offering anything particularly different from a PS4.

I started playing Infamous which is bringing lots of memories from when I played the first one (good times). Any other game recommendations unique to the PS4?

How about that camera? Any use for it? Is it 'meh' at this time?

Can you put in an SSD into the PS4? Is it a big leap or not?

Ok...so now you miss out of sunset overdrive, halo, the next forza horizon game and others.

However since you asked about exclusives...there's knack, killzone, MLB The show, and infamous that I have owned that aren't on another platform (not including PSN only games in this). Of those Infamous and MLB are fantastic. Knack is ok and Killzone was boring.

 

[ImpulsE69]

There are zero retail games available for free via PSN+ on a PS4. They are all PSN only titles.

The article does not mention that distinction, so it comes off that they will be giving normal PS4 titles out (like they do on PS3).

 

[cmdrdredd]

The article does not mention that distinction, so it comes off that they will be giving normal PS4 titles out (like they do on PS3).

They may in the future, right now they aren't. So you can't exactly give away an entire catalog of games when you aren't giving away any retail titles and give no indication that they will soon.

 

[Topweasel]

They may in the future, right now they aren't. So you can't exactly give away an entire catalog of games when you aren't giving away any retail titles and give no indication that they will soon.

It would really difficult. I mean if they had even been doing one game a month for the last 6 months, that would be half of the retail games.

 

[mmntech]

Can you put in an SSD into the PS4? Is it a big leap or not?

Any quality SSD is going to be significantly faster than a hard drive. The best 7200rpm drives might be able to manage 180MB/s streaming reads, while the best 5400rpm drives might be able to do 120MB/s on a good day. Though the Seagate ones Sony uses get maybe 70-80MB/s. Decent SSDs these days will get about 520MB/s sequential reads, and do better in random 4K reads. So games should in theory load up to five times faster.

The question is whether it's worth it. The minimum drive the PS4 OS requires is 160GB. Though given the size of the games, you'd want at least 512GB. Cheapest one I found on Newegg here was $380. Almost as much as the console itself.

The HGST Travelstar 7K1000 seems to be the fastest 7200rpm 2.5'' drive, getting about 120MB/s. But I'm not sure if it works. Weird how PS4s are being finicky with replacement drives.

 

[cmdrdredd]

There was an article that tested ssd in the ps4 I think. If I remember right, it didn't help all that much.

 

[HeXen]

Any quality SSD is going to be significantly faster than a hard drive. The best 7200rpm drives might be able to manage 180MB/s streaming reads, while the best 5400rpm drives might be able to do 120MB/s on a good day. Though the Seagate ones Sony uses get maybe 70-80MB/s. Decent SSDs these days will get about 520MB/s sequential reads, and do better in random 4K reads. So games should in theory load up to five times faster.

The question is whether it's worth it. The minimum drive the PS4 OS requires is 160GB. Though given the size of the games, you'd want at least 512GB. Cheapest one I found on Newegg here was $380. Almost as much as the console itself.

The HGST Travelstar 7K1000 seems to be the fastest 7200rpm 2.5'' drive, getting about 120MB/s. But I'm not sure if it works. Weird how PS4s are being finicky with replacement drives.

But in reality only load them a few seconds faster. Used one on my PC for games and tried one in my PS3 before as well. Mostly negligible considering the price for a good sized SSD one would want to have for a PS4.

 

[sze5003]

Any quality SSD is going to be significantly faster than a hard drive. The best 7200rpm drives might be able to manage 180MB/s streaming reads, while the best 5400rpm drives might be able to do 120MB/s on a good day. Though the Seagate ones Sony uses get maybe 70-80MB/s. Decent SSDs these days will get about 520MB/s sequential reads, and do better in random 4K reads. So games should in theory load up to five times faster.

The question is whether it's worth it. The minimum drive the PS4 OS requires is 160GB. Though given the size of the games, you'd want at least 512GB. Cheapest one I found on Newegg here was $380. Almost as much as the console itself.

The HGST Travelstar 7K1000 seems to be the fastest 7200rpm 2.5'' drive, getting about 120MB/s. But I'm not sure if it works. Weird how PS4s are being finicky with replacement drives.

The travelstar one is what I have. I think Ign used it in their video review.

 

[Aikouka]

There was an article that tested ssd in the ps4 I think. If I remember right, it didn't help all that much.

There are definitely quite a few:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ps4-hard-drive-upgrade,3695.html
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison
http://www.tested.com/tech/gaming/459128-tested-playstation-4-hard-drive-vs-ssd-vs-hybrid-drive/

If you want a nice boost, a SSHD (HDD with a small amount of NAND used for caching) might be the best, but of course, it depends heavily on the scenario.

 

[Bman123]

Plants vs zombies is the only reason I kept my xbone. I heavily prefer my ps4 over the Xbox, if pvz came out on both at the same time I would of never bought the Xbox. I actually don't like any of the Xbox exclusives like halo, gears of war or forza at all. Pvz garden warfare is a great game, I've logged over 200 hours easily on that game online.

Since almost all the Xbox games come out on PC I'll more then likely sell my xbone this week. I'll just use the cash from it to buy a new cpu, mobo and video card. Hook it up to the 60 inch led TV I just bought and use my spare xbone controller to play the games.

Sony really killed it this gen and I couldn't be happier. The consoles hardware made a big difference in multi plat games. They run smoother have higher res and better frame rates. Kudos to Sony, they learned their lesson from that awful ps3 launch

 

[mmntech]

But in reality only load them a few seconds faster. Used one on my PC for games and tried one in my PS3 before as well. Mostly negligible considering the price for a good sized SSD one would want to have for a PS4.

Yep, should have Googled some actual PS4 benchmarks instead of PC ones. Results aren't that impressive. Sometimes the SSD does worse. Orbis OS probably isn't set up to take advantage of them, or it's using an older SATA connection standard. Probably the latter.
http://ca.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hard_Drive_Speed_Test_Comparison

 

[ImpulsE69]

I put a 1TB hybrid in my PS3. While not phenomenal performance increase (got it for the space rather than the speed), it is definitely faster.