The **Official** Nintendo Wii Thread

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: dxkj
What is nintendo trying to pull? $5 for mario bros, $10 for mario 64?? They already made their money on the software development of these games and their consoles, why try to fleece us additionally?

This would be a fun and novel thing when added to the wii if they werent trying to charge way too much.

as if all the extra controllers and crap isn't enough...

what i've spent on my wii so far:

Wii - 249.99
Extra Remote - 39.99
Extra Nunchuk - 19.99
Classic Controller - 19.99
Component Cable - 29.99
Zelda - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
Rayman Raving Rabids - 49.99
and don't forget the shipping and tax on top of that yet.


I'd like to get some GC games too, but there's another $25 for a controller, $50 for 2 so I can play with a friend, not to mention the GC memory card, which is like $15 i think, and then the games themselves.

They made the system fairly cheap but after all the accessories and crap, its actually fairly expensive.

 

[Quasmo]

What new virtual console games came out.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dxkj
What is nintendo trying to pull? $5 for mario bros, $10 for mario 64?? They already made their money on the software development of these games and their consoles, why try to fleece us additionally?

This would be a fun and novel thing when added to the wii if they werent trying to charge way too much.

as if all the extra controllers and crap isn't enough...

what i've spent on my wii so far:

Wii - 249.99
Extra Remote - 39.99
Extra Nunchuk - 19.99
Classic Controller - 19.99
Component Cable - 29.99
Zelda - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
Rayman Raving Rabids - 49.99

I'd like to get some GC games too, but there's another $25 for a controller, $50 for 2 so I can play with a friend, not to mention the GC memory card, which is like $15 i think, and then the games themselves.

They made the system fairly cheap but after all the accessories and crap, its actually fairly expensive.

Yeah, but that's pretty much how it is with any system... PS3 comes with composite cables. Xbox core comes with composite cables ("Premium" comes with component). PS3 and Xbox 360 wireless controllers cost $50. PS3 and 360 games cost $60+. The Gamecube controller can take the place of the Classic controller (I still bought the classic controller because I like the feel of old SNES controllers for old games). It does add up, but not really any faster than any other system.

(Which is why I didn't resume my video game habit until I finished college )

 

[randomlinh]

yeah, i don't see all the complaints about the accessories... other than maybe you'll have to buy more than one remote because... well frankly, the wii just screams party games

vc game pricing.. yeah.. that's a bit of a pain. and if the gamecube controller worked on ALL the games.

a redesigned "wavebird" that works on the bluetooth would be cool too.. but I have a feeling that might be more effort than it's worth for nintendo to do.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dxkj
What is nintendo trying to pull? $5 for mario bros, $10 for mario 64?? They already made their money on the software development of these games and their consoles, why try to fleece us additionally?

This would be a fun and novel thing when added to the wii if they werent trying to charge way too much.

as if all the extra controllers and crap isn't enough...

what i've spent on my wii so far:

Wii - 249.99
Extra Remote - 39.99
Extra Nunchuk - 19.99
Classic Controller - 19.99
Component Cable - 29.99
Zelda - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
Rayman Raving Rabids - 49.99
and don't forget the shipping and tax on top of that yet.


I'd like to get some GC games too, but there's another $25 for a controller, $50 for 2 so I can play with a friend, not to mention the GC memory card, which is like $15 i think, and then the games themselves.

They made the system fairly cheap but after all the accessories and crap, its actually fairly expensive.

No joke, I'm in the same boat.

$350.00 for the system (bought it off a guy locally)
$49.99 for zelda
$49.99 for Rayman (not that great of a game)
$17.99 for metroid prime 2 for gc
$100.00 2 extra controllers and an extra nunchuck
$30.00 for 2 wavebird controllers (used) and 2 GC memory carts

 

[imported_Asahi]

sigh... seeing all you guys' messages make me jealous

coz I read some false information this weekend about bestbuy was going to have it again on sunday, and end up they didn't.
And target actually had it...

A thread from gamefaq.com was saying the best buy stock was confirmed while the target and the other weren't... screw that bastard for posting fake info :'(

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dxkj
What is nintendo trying to pull? $5 for mario bros, $10 for mario 64?? They already made their money on the software development of these games and their consoles, why try to fleece us additionally?

This would be a fun and novel thing when added to the wii if they werent trying to charge way too much.

as if all the extra controllers and crap isn't enough...

what i've spent on my wii so far:

Wii - 249.99
Extra Remote - 39.99
Extra Nunchuk - 19.99
Classic Controller - 19.99
Component Cable - 29.99
Zelda - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
Rayman Raving Rabids - 49.99
and don't forget the shipping and tax on top of that yet.


I'd like to get some GC games too, but there's another $25 for a controller, $50 for 2 so I can play with a friend, not to mention the GC memory card, which is like $15 i think, and then the games themselves.

They made the system fairly cheap but after all the accessories and crap, its actually fairly expensive.

It's expensive cause you want a lot of things. All things considered it's still relatively cheap.

The system is the cheapest out of the three next gen by a mile.
The controller is $40 + $20 for the nunchuk, 360 controller is $50, dunno about PS3. A lil more expensive, but thats where all the tech is.
Games are $50, but other systems, games are $60.

The rest is all optional:
$30 is reasonable for a component cable, and there are cheaoper 3rd part.
$20 is also reasonable for classic controller.
The GC controllers are also optional, and they're also cheap, but the fact that you need a memory card even though the Wii has internal memory is stupid.

So I dunno what you're complaining about....you're not really getting gouged anywhere.

The VC games are too expensive though...especially for people that have already played them, and it's more of a nostalgia thing. They should cost 2/3rds to 1/2 the price they cost now, or at the very least, give us a bulk discount. But for people who have never played a lot of these games before, its not a bad deal, but theyre still really shutting out the market for nostalgic collectors.

Although Mario64 looks and plays better than it ever did on the N64, so if they can extend that kind of visual upgrade to the other systems, then it very well might make them worth the price.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: dxkj
What is nintendo trying to pull? $5 for mario bros, $10 for mario 64?? They already made their money on the software development of these games and their consoles, why try to fleece us additionally?

This would be a fun and novel thing when added to the wii if they werent trying to charge way too much.

as if all the extra controllers and crap isn't enough...

what i've spent on my wii so far:

Wii - 249.99
Extra Remote - 39.99
Extra Nunchuk - 19.99
Classic Controller - 19.99
Component Cable - 29.99
Zelda - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
Rayman Raving Rabids - 49.99
and don't forget the shipping and tax on top of that yet.


I'd like to get some GC games too, but there's another $25 for a controller, $50 for 2 so I can play with a friend, not to mention the GC memory card, which is like $15 i think, and then the games themselves.

They made the system fairly cheap but after all the accessories and crap, its actually fairly expensive.

It's expensive cause you want a lot of things. All things considered it's still relatively cheap.

The system is the cheapest out of the three next gen by a mile.
The controller is $40 + $20 for the nunchuk, 360 controller is $50, dunno about PS3. A lil more expensive, but thats where all the tech is.
Games are $50, but other systems, games are $60.

The rest is all optional:
$30 is reasonable for a component cable, and there are cheaoper 3rd part.
$20 is also reasonable for classic controller.
The GC controllers are also optional, and they're also cheap, but the fact that you need a memory card even though the Wii has internal memory is stupid.

So I dunno what you're complaining about....you're not really getting gouged anywhere.

The VC games are too expensive though...especially for people that have already played them, and it's more of a nostalgia thing. They should cost 2/3rds to 1/2 the price they cost now, or at the very least, give us a bulk discount. But for people who have never played a lot of these games before, its not a bad deal, but theyre still really shutting out the market for nostalgic collectors.

Although Mario64 looks and plays better than it ever did on the N64, so if they can extend that kind of visual upgrade to the other systems, then it very well might make them worth the price.

Guess it all depends on how you look at it. No way in hell a cable should run $30.00 or more. Maybe, MAYBE 9.99 or so for a cable. $30.00 for a video cable is insane imho.

Same thing with controllers. A good controller should run $19.99 bucks or so TOPS. $40.00 for a controller is just a lot of money.

Games. shrug.. I'd like to see a $40.00 tops price point for games... thats just me...

VC games. Hmm, dont know.. I think $5.00 a game, no matter what system, is pretty fair.

 

[randay]

I am gonna get rid of my Wii. Good thing Ill be able to easily break even on it. My initial impressions were correct, personally I find the Wii fun multiplayer, but pointless in singleplayer. With very few virtual console titles, and the fishing game being a flop, there is no longer any hope on the horizon for me and my Wii. I'll probably just buy a wiimote and nunchuk for playing at my friends house. Goodbye Nintendo. Goodbye Wii.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: slag
Guess it all depends on how you look at it. No way in hell a cable should run $30.00 or more. Maybe, MAYBE 9.99 or so for a cable. $30.00 for a video cable is insane imho.

Same thing with controllers. A good controller should run $19.99 bucks or so TOPS. $40.00 for a controller is just a lot of money.

Games. shrug.. I'd like to see a $40.00 tops price point for games... thats just me...

VC games. Hmm, dont know.. I think $5.00 a game, no matter what system, is pretty fair.

I'd like to see a $40 price point too.. but as a company.. if my stuff is selling at $50 well... I have no real incentive to drop the price.

Controllers.. $20 is ridiculously cheap... you can barely by a dualshock for that (new, from sony.. not counting 3rd party because I've never felt the 3rd party controllers held up to the originals. actually, maybe you can for $20 now.. but not when it was first out). Sure, I'd LOVE to see it at that price point, but realistically, their pricing is decent. I think it should be only an extra $10 for the nunchuck though.

VC games.. yeah, unless they do some improvements... it should all be max $5.

 

[ICantAffordIt]

Well, I missed out yesterday... the lines were too long around here, not enough to go around. I was able to pick up a remote, but no nunchuck. So now I have a single controller, and nothing to go with it. I do have a possible deal in the works with a member here though... hopefully that comes through, cuz I doubt I'll have any better luck on Wed at walmart. I've got an 11 month old and a 2 year old to watch and I doubt I could stand out in the cold with them to wait in line that day.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: randay
I am gonna get rid of my Wii. Good thing Ill be able to easily break even on it. My initial impressions were correct, personally I find the Wii fun multiplayer, but pointless in singleplayer. With very few virtual console titles, and the fishing game being a flop, there is no longer any hope on the horizon for me and my Wii. I'll probably just buy a wiimote and nunchuk for playing at my friends house. Goodbye Nintendo. Goodbye Wii.

Au revoir, enjoy discussing wicker furniture in the PS3 thread! :laugh:

 

[General Texas]

I'm scared of the future of Wii online. In Xbox world, much like online gaming, I can go into a lobby or join a random game and actually make online friends if I enjoyed playing with them. I have a feeling the Wii will be much like the DS is, where friend codes will be necessary to play. Nintendo is going to do this to "protect" the children who play the Wii. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm right a lot of the potential of the Wii will disappear.

I didn't like the DS online network at all. I'd play some Mario Kart with some fun people, but I had no way to find out who they were to play again. Wii is great, but if it wants to compete in the online world it will have to be more like Xbox than the DS.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: randay
I am gonna get rid of my Wii. Good thing Ill be able to easily break even on it. My initial impressions were correct, personally I find the Wii fun multiplayer, but pointless in singleplayer. With very few virtual console titles, and the fishing game being a flop, there is no longer any hope on the horizon for me and my Wii. I'll probably just buy a wiimote and nunchuk for playing at my friends house. Goodbye Nintendo. Goodbye Wii.

Heh, nothing like judging the longevity of a system based on having it for a few days at launch.

Although you've been determined not to like it from the start, so you're fufilled your own prophecy.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: General Texas
I'm scared of the future of Wii online. In Xbox world, much like online gaming, I can go into a lobby or join a random game and actually make online friends if I enjoyed playing with them. I have a feeling the Wii will be much like the DS is, where friend codes will be necessary to play. Nintendo is going to do this to "protect" the children who play the Wii. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm right a lot of the potential of the Wii will disappear.

I didn't like the DS online network at all. I'd play some Mario Kart with some fun people, but I had no way to find out who they were to play again. Wii is great, but if it wants to compete in the online world it will have to be more like Xbox than the DS.

Ya, they are really, really, really dropping the ball with it. Although I appreciate the "it just works" simplicity, they are taking it a bit too far, and their simplicity ends up making it more complicated.

Just like the message board thing - it is the most stupid and useless thing I've ever seen. I play a few games, get a few medals in wii sports, and I check the board and I've got 10 little notes all on top of each other and stuff, with 5 characters of text to describe them. Why they can't just make a list format, per game, etc, is beyond me.

It'd be so much easier if they just had one section for play time, categorized by game - I have no idea how much I've played each game total, although the data is there. Also no idea of the medals, players etc. I'd like to just click a button for wii sports, see total playtime, a list of medals etc...its retarded right now.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: General Texas
I'm scared of the future of Wii online. In Xbox world, much like online gaming, I can go into a lobby or join a random game and actually make online friends if I enjoyed playing with them. I have a feeling the Wii will be much like the DS is, where friend codes will be necessary to play. Nintendo is going to do this to "protect" the children who play the Wii. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm right a lot of the potential of the Wii will disappear.

I didn't like the DS online network at all. I'd play some Mario Kart with some fun people, but I had no way to find out who they were to play again. Wii is great, but if it wants to compete in the online world it will have to be more like Xbox than the DS.

Ya, they are really, really, really dropping the ball with it. Although I appreciate the "it just works" simplicity, they are taking it a bit too far, and their simplicity ends up making it more complicated.

Just like the message board thing - it is the most stupid and useless thing I've ever seen. I play a few games, get a few medals in wii sports, and I check the board and I've got 10 little notes all on top of each other and stuff, with 5 characters of text to describe them. Why they can't just make a list format, per game, etc, is beyond me.

It'd be so much easier if they just had one section for play time, categorized by game - I have no idea how much I've played each game total, although the data is there. Also no idea of the medals, players etc. I'd like to just click a button for wii sports, see total playtime, a list of medals etc...its retarded right now.

i agree with a lot of this. the whole adding people to your address book with wii numbers is ridiculous too.

 

[herkulease]

asked this earlier but has anyone been able to find component cables in stores?

my nintendo.com order I guess is not backordered. its so nice of them not to email me to tell me that but rather I had to log on to find out. yet I notice they are still taking orders too.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: herkulease
asked this earlier but has anyone been able to find component cables in stores?

my nintendo.com order I guess is not backordered. its so nice of them not to email me to tell me that but rather I had to log on to find out. yet I notice they are still taking orders too.

considering that it tells you when you order that the cables won't be available until mid december, why would you expect a email saying it was backordered? they already told you up front.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: randay
I am gonna get rid of my Wii. Good thing Ill be able to easily break even on it. My initial impressions were correct, personally I find the Wii fun multiplayer, but pointless in singleplayer. With very few virtual console titles, and the fishing game being a flop, there is no longer any hope on the horizon for me and my Wii. I'll probably just buy a wiimote and nunchuk for playing at my friends house. Goodbye Nintendo. Goodbye Wii.

Heh, nothing like judging the longevity of a system based on having it for a few days at launch.

Although you've been determined not to like it from the start, so you're fufilled your own prophecy.

I don't get it, would you rather a person make the judgment without ever having owned the system? Or do you want them to use thier psychic/hiro-nakamura powers to bend space and time to predict the future of a thing? Ive made a good effort haven't I? Is my assessment off? also its been 2 weeks since launch.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: randay
I don't get it, would you rather a person make the judgment without ever having owned the system? Or do you want them to use thier psychic/hiro-nakamura powers to bend space and time to predict the future of a thing? Ive made a good effort haven't I? Is my assessment off? also its been 2 weeks since launch.

Two weeks is still very short. IMO, once you have invested in a system you should allow for a few waves of games for a system before deciding to ditch it. I would have never kept my PS2 following your logic. The PS2 had like one good game (SSX) the entire first YEAR. The 360 was also pretty slow the first year but has now picked up considerably. You're ditching a brand new system just a couple of weeks after launch.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: randomlinh
how the hell do you add the other remotes for supermonkey ball party games?!?!?!

Did you try hitting the 1 and 2 buttons at the same time?

yeah, nothin

Did you RTFM? (For the Wii, that is?)

You need to pair the remote and console together (red connect button under the battery cover and beside the SD card slot, respectively) before the Wii will recognize any new remotes.

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: randay
I don't get it, would you rather a person make the judgment without ever having owned the system? Or do you want them to use thier psychic/hiro-nakamura powers to bend space and time to predict the future of a thing? Ive made a good effort haven't I? Is my assessment off? also its been 2 weeks since launch.

Two weeks is still very short. IMO, once you have invested in a system you should allow for a few waves of games for a system before deciding to ditch it. I would have never kept my PS2 following your logic. The PS2 had like one good game (SSX) the entire first YEAR. The 360 was also pretty slow the first year but has now picked up considerably. You're ditching a brand new system just a couple of weeks after launch.

Corollary - Why keep the system for a year while waiting? Hang back until the AAA titles start to pour in, then get one. In addition, it'll be much easier to obtain in a few months.

- M4H

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
Two weeks is still very short. IMO, once you have invested in a system you should allow for a few waves of games for a system before deciding to ditch it. I would have never kept my PS2 following your logic. The PS2 had like one good game (SSX) the entire first YEAR. The 360 was also pretty slow the first year but has now picked up considerably. You're ditching a brand new system just a couple of weeks after launch.

My plan is thus: I will sell for retail now, that way 6 months - 1 year down the line if the Wii has gotten my interest back, I can buy one. If not, then my wallet will have never have known the difference and I won't have a little white box sitting on my desk to remind me. If the thing had depreciated in value already then it would be a different story.

 

[Slew Foot]

"Earlier this morning, Nintendo added four new games to their download service. The first of these was Donkey Kong Jr., originally for the Super NES, which costs 500 Wii Points. Also made available was Victory Run, for the TurboGrafx-16, which is going for 600 Wii Points. The final two releases were Ristar and Columns, both originally for the SEGA Genesis, and both available for 800 Wii Points each."


For those who didnt get the memo...

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: herkulease
asked this earlier but has anyone been able to find component cables in stores?

my nintendo.com order I guess is not backordered. its so nice of them not to email me to tell me that but rather I had to log on to find out. yet I notice they are still taking orders too.

considering that it tells you when you order that the cables won't be available until mid december, why would you expect a email saying it was backordered? they already told you up front.

Have you even looked at the site?

they've showed what's quoted since 11/29. Before that it was NOT avaliable to purchase.since people rushed to buy it. back then it said they wouldn't have any till mid december. If they didn't have any now maybe they shouldn't be taking orders.

As of Wednesday, November 29, 2006, we will be resuming shipments of all back orders for the Wii Component Video Cable.

The Wii Component Video Cable allows you to hook your Wii console system to a high-definition TV (HDTV) or enhanced-definition TV (EDTV) to view 480p progressive output. 480p progressive output displays at a higher resolution than standard 480i resolution. Click here for more information on hooking up your Wii using the Component Video Cables.

Please note that your TV must be a high-definition TV (HDTV) or enhanced-definition TV (EDTV) to view 480p output. You will also be required to change your Wii settings from Standard TV (480i) to EDTV/HDTV to view 480p. Click here for details on changing your Wii console system settings or check page 44 in your Wii console system 'Channels & Settings' manual.

You cannot see Wii progressive display output when the Wii console system is hooked to a TV using any other kind of cable.

NOTE: This component video cable is for the Wii and will not work with any other system. In addition, the Nintendo GameCube Component Video Cable will not work with the Wii.

Due to limited supplies, Wii Component Video Cables orders are limited to one per household. Any duplicate orders will be canceled without notification