The official iPad 3 rumors, speculation, and wants thread

[Aikouka]

No. It will most like be the same size as it is on the iPad 2.

I was referring to how it would look without any magnification/zoom/enlarge (whatever you want to call it) effects applied. To me, if you have to enlarge it just to make it viewable, then it loses some of its value. It's like older folks that lower the resolution of their monitor because they simply cannot read the text.

An image looks worse when you try to blow it up to a larger physical size, which isn't happening.

You're right about that.

Honestly, the reason I never bought an iPad 2 was because I thought the resolution was too low. Then I bought my wife one, and I realized that was silly. It does a lot with that low resolution.

I guess I looked at it from a monitor perspective originally. If I wanted a 10" monitor, I'd probably prefer that it be somewhere around 1024x768. I'm so used to 1920x1200 on my 27" monitors... it will seem quite odd if the iPad 3 has a higher resolution when it doesn't even cover 25% of my monitor's display area.

I'd definitely buy an iPad 3 if it didn't have a retina display, but I won't complain that they're adding it.

It doesn't really sway me either way as well. My real goal is just to get a 3G-based model as that's what I really wanted. Unfortunately, I waited hours in line, and they had no 64GB 3G models left (black or white). There were a few old ladies in front of me that were talking about getting that model for their husbands, and I have no idea why they would need 64GB for reading books. :|

Although, if the only difference is the retina display and maybe a quad-core CPU... I may just get a 3G iPad 2.

 

[MrX8503]

I won't get any tablet unless it has a retina display. Any mobile device I buy here on out has to be very very high res for me to be interested.

 

[frumply]

Unloaded my ipad2 so I am ready for the new one. Reading text on the new display will be much easier on the eyes...

 

[Hammyton]

I'm curious to see how a retina display will make my user experience better on the iPad. Most of the time I find myself streaming videos (youtube, ppstream, etc) and the quality seems lower than what even the iPad 2's screen can support. I'm assuming that even if the screen looks sharper the quality of the streaming video isn't necessarily going to increase.

 

[BD2003]

I'm curious to see how a retina display will make my user experience better on the iPad. Most of the time I find myself streaming videos (youtube, ppstream, etc) and the quality seems lower than what even the iPad 2's screen can support. I'm assuming that even if the screen looks sharper the quality of the streaming video isn't necessarily going to increase.

You're assuming correctly. If you can catch a 1080p stream that should look better at least.

 

[cheez]

I think the problem with the iPad 3 will be the compatibility issues.. as you all know that iPad 1 and 2 only support certain type of video files such as MP4. Having to *convert* every damn files (which often degrade PQ) just to watch them off the iPad is just borderline ridiculous. That is one the bigestestestestestestestestestestest reasons why I gave up on iPad and moved over to Macbook Pro. I am pretty sure the iPad 3 will have exact same issue.

I also didn't like the fact that when playing unsupported files (using AVPlayer HD app) it kept crashing on me at least 3 times a day. This all boils down to incompatibility.

So no matter how good the display is and resolution it has it won't matter to me at all....when it can't play a damn thing. hehe

 

[alfa147x]

Where is your source? I've streamed WMVs to an iPad with no issues before. You just need the right app

 

[cheez]

Most of my files are uncompressed MPEG2-TS video files that are 1080i. I can transfer them over to iPad 2 using AVPlayer HD fine but when playing them they show deinterlacing problem so the pictures are all distorted. The other ones I play are 720p MKV files and about 1/2 of the times my iPad crash at least 3 or so times a day. Terrible experience.

Now if I convert them all to Apple supported format (i.e. MP4) then all plays smoothly and no crash but the PQ will be degraded which I can't tolerate.

 

[alfa147x]

Most of my files are uncompressed MPEG2-TS video files that are 1080i. I can transfer them over to iPad 2 using AVPlayer HD fine but when playing them they show deinterlacing problem so the pictures are all distorted. The other ones I play are 720p MKV files and about 1/2 of the times my iPad crash at least 3 or so times a day. Terrible experience.

That's really odd. At work most of iPad users (100 or so) stream media multiple times a day. All sorts of formats. 1080p MKVs with DTS and they have no issues :\

You might want to start a thread and see if someone can help you

 

[alfa147x]

Now if I convert them all to Apple supported format (i.e. MP4) then all plays smoothly and no crash but the PQ will be degraded which I can't tolerate.

Yeah that's a crazy amount of work too.

 

[Pliablemoose]

http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/19/redesigned-ipad-3-with-8-megapixel-camera-pictured-for-the-first-time/

Pics:

 

[MrX8503]

I don't convert my videos anymore. Transcoding is the future of video streaming. You get a PQ hit, but at least I don't have multiple versions of a movie taking up disk space

 

[amdhunter]

All I want is it to run a desktop OS. It would be a waste to use all that resolution for iOS.

 

[alfa147x]

All I want is it to run a desktop OS. It would be a waste to use all that resolution for iOS.

I disagree. IOS is perfect for a touch based form factor.

 

[Kaido]

If I were to venture a wild guess, it would be that they will release iFCPX - make the iPad more video-friendly (Retina screen, 1GB RAM, Quad-core CPU, 8mp camera, 128GB model).

My wishlist:

1. Mouse support (RDP/VNC/LogMeIn/Onlive Desktop/etc. - particularly with Airplay!)

2. Pressure-sensitive stylus support (Wacom-style...with a Retina screen, this could replace pen & paper)

3. Pixel Qi screen w/ Retina (sunlight-readable, especially for the new textbooks!)

4. Thunderbolt (I know they aren't going to do SD cards, and Wifi transfer blows chunks, so at least give us some way to move data - especially video - faster)

 

[Kaido]

All I want is it to run a desktop OS. It would be a waste to use all that resolution for iOS.

http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook

 

[Pliablemoose]

All I want is it to run a desktop OS. It would be a waste to use all that resolution for iOS.

I can't imagine a more frustrating experience than using a desktop OS on a 9.7" screen.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

4. Thunderbolt (I know they aren't going to do SD cards, and Wifi transfer blows chunks, so at least give us some way to move data - especially video - faster)

Intel has all the patents and trademarks and licenses and did all the research for it and I don't think they'll license it to ARM to implement even if it is for Apple products.

 

[ViRGE]

4. Thunderbolt (I know they aren't going to do SD cards, and Wifi transfer blows chunks, so at least give us some way to move data - especially video - faster)

You'd need faster flash memory first. The limit right now isn't the USB 2.0 interface, it's the slow transfer rate you get from only having 1-2 chips.

 

[alfa147x]

Bring Firewire back to the dock connector. USB sucks.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Well, so much for all those wet dreams about quad-core:

http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/19/photo...d-3-with-a5x-processor-last-year/#more-139733

My guess: dual-core Cortex A9 with either quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4, OR it'll be the same as the A5 but with some extra chips added in to stabilize image, etc... and a bump in clock speed. Perhaps to 1.2GHz or 1.6GHz.

That would still make it faster, and technically should be able to handle most interface stuffs just fine. 3D games might feel a bit strained, but I don't think Apple is putting crazy emphasis there.

Or I might be wrong, and Apple may go for both the quad-core GPU and a bump in clock speed. That'd surely put the iPad 3 on a league of its own, and allow Apple to reign a while longer.

 

[BD2003]

Without a quad core CPU Im probably going to skip it. The iPad 2 is certainly faster than the iPad 1 while web browsing, but it still feels too slow compared to a laptop. It needs more raw power behind it, and a small clock speed jump isn't going to bridge that gap.

Especially if they're going to tick-tock the iPads like they do iPhones. If it comes in the same casing, retina display or not, this might actually be the iPad 2S we're looking at. Maybe by next year they'll also have reconsidered a smaller form factor.

 

[bosco2012]

Oh, iPad 3 is coming... i will sell my iPad 2 for it...

 

[runawayprisoner]

Without a quad core CPU Im probably going to skip it. The iPad 2 is certainly faster than the iPad 1 while web browsing, but it still feels too slow compared to a laptop. It needs more raw power behind it, and a small clock speed jump isn't going to bridge that gap.

Especially if they're going to tick-tock the iPads like they do iPhones. If it comes in the same casing, retina display or not, this might actually be the iPad 2S we're looking at. Maybe by next year they'll also have reconsidered a smaller form factor.

I think it's worth noting that increased clock speed would help more with web browsing than adding more cores.

But there is no indication that Apple would increase clock speed, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

If they suddenly come out and say the A5X is the A5 but runs at 2GHz, I don't think I can resist that...

 

[alfa147x]

A5X might be a prototype or something of that nature.
Dual core vs Quad

I say speed is more important than number of cores. Especially for a tablet​

Please Apple put more than 512 mb of RAM in those things


Either way I'll be buying one.