*The Official* Abit IP35-E (Ed. 2)

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bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
hey, anybody know if you can run an ide cd rom with an ide hard drive on an ip35e. I can't seem to get both working on my new rig at the same time...stupid jmicron driver...
you should be able to, are they jumpered master & slave properly?

Originally posted by: Lark888
DiamondDave - I had a similar experience with video cards. After much trial & error, I found out that my 8800GS card was simply too much for the power supply on this board.
the board's PWM is more than fine for an 8800GS.
It's something else to do with the Neo550 e.g. requiring a load on the 5V rail or something else.


yes, I even switched the hd and cdrom drive around. in fact, I took the hard drive and put it in my other ip35 e and had the same problem. sadly, it appears to be an ip35e issue.
 

Replay

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
hey, anybody know if you can run an ide cd rom with an ide hard drive on an ip35e. I can't seem to get both working on my new rig at the same time...stupid jmicron driver...

Booting ok from a Maxtor 200G IDE drive sharing the single IDE cable with a dvd burner. Try cable select, and then master-slave. Something should work for you.

All bets are off if this is an old cd drive. I've had no luck with intel chipset s775 boards and most of my old pci video cards, or an old Promise Fastrack pci raid controller.
 

bryanW1995

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both of them have an old cd drive, but it seems odd that I can run the hd as primary OR the cd as primary in both cases but whichever drive is listed as the slave simply doesn't exist according to the bios...

that's ok, I'd been looking for an excuse to buy a WD6400AAKS anyway, and the OLD 40gb ide hd was on its last legs.
 

man00

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IMO the ABIT IP35-E is a P.O.S. doesn't keep overclock setting bios, doesn't want to boot from CD sometimes..Looks like each new bios release is worse than the last.
 

man00

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
something wrong with your setup then as you are very much in the minority.

You saying you have no problems with the bios saving /keeping OC settings?
 

MadScientist

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Originally posted by: man00
Originally posted by: Heidfirst
something wrong with your setup then as you are very much in the minority.

You saying you have no problems with the bios saving /keeping OC settings?

Maybe this will answer your question.

Originally posted by: Husky55
Originally posted by: METALWORK
Originally posted by: Husky55
Originally posted by: MadScientist
The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

True enough. Same here, ran all bios from 12-17. I am running the 17 bios now and it does the same damn thing, losing my Oc settings on cold boot.

May be I should just flash back to 12 and be done with all the updates.


:disgust:

Do you lose all the changes made in bios settings or only those manual settings changed in the first section?

Only the FSB. NOTHING was changed, i.e. all the settings in bios remain intact, just boot up to default.

But if you enter bios before boot up then everything is good. My system is stable. No error due to OC.


This is a known problem at the Abit forum.


 

Poepstamper

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hi i am 100% new here :D recently bought this motherboard since it was the cheapest and best overclockable motherboard for the price,
but it worries me that my Setup boots Windows two sometimes 3 times before booting normal and when i test my system is 100 % Othos stable after 8 hours of stressing.
i have been looking around the first forum and saw some boot problems,are these the same as mine ?
and this isnt anything to worry about ?

Setup: Abit IP 35 E
E 6300 B2 @ 3,00 GHZ
Scythe infinity mugen
OCZ DDR 800 overclock memmory

THX very much in advance

sorry for my bad English im dutch :eek:
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: Poepstamper

but it worries me that my Setup boots Windows two sometimes 3 times before booting normal and when i test my system is 100 % Othos stable after 8 hours of stressing.
i have been looking around the first forum and saw some boot problems,are these the same as mine ?
and this isnt anything to worry about ?
if it's actually getting to the Windows loading bar & then restarting then no, that's not normal.
If it is restarting during POST that is normal on an early BIOS (update your BIOS & it will go away) or if you had removed all power (incl. standby) from the mobo - it's a chipset characteristic as it sets the strap.

 

man00

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Yes my OC setting stays in the cmos but boots to default if I unplug all the power to the motherboard. I have to go back to setup and change like the FSB up one or down one number to finally get it to boot with OC settings...running bios 1.7
 

Poepstamper

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: Poepstamper

but it worries me that my Setup boots Windows two sometimes 3 times before booting normal and when i test my system is 100 % Othos stable after 8 hours of stressing.
i have been looking around the first forum and saw some boot problems,are these the same as mine ?
and this isnt anything to worry about ?
if it's actually getting to the Windows loading bar & then restarting then no, that's not normal.
If it is restarting during POST that is normal on an early BIOS (update your BIOS & it will go away) or if you had removed all power (incl. standby) from the mobo - it's a chipset characteristic as it sets the strap.

it boots until i would have to see the windows XP logo (i do not see it)
after that the computer freezes and i will have to press the restart button after pressing the restart button windows starts 100% normal cant find any error with orthos and memtest.
 

Heidfirst

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which exact OCZ & how have you got it configured (voltage/timings/CPU:DRAM ratio)?
which PSU, gfx, HDD?
 

Poepstamper

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OCZ OCZ2P8001G, 1024 MB, DDR2, PC6400, 800 memory
just got it on auto configured
PSU is a Huntkey LW-6550HG, 550 Watt
Abit IP 35 E
harddrive : Samsung spinpoint T 166 320 GB Sata II
E 6300 B2 @ 3,00 GHZ with Scythe infinity mugen cooler
graphics is Saphire radeon 3870 512 mb
thx in advance
 

Heidfirst

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that the original platinum or Rev. 2?
if it's the original a) it's known to have a slightly strange SPD & b) it should be at 2.1V for it's rated speed/timings & it probably isn't under auto. Just the 1 DIMM?

Oh & Huntkey are low on the tree of PSU manufacturers.
 

mcMikeyT

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Originally posted by: Heidfirst
Originally posted by: owbert

i have the pro version and e version and would like to update both of them to version 16.

would i be unable to flash using abit's guide with a thumbdrive?
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=124207

abit mobos don't have a physical backup BIOS on the mobo (very few mobos do) but often you can recover from a failed flash via thebootblock or ultimately you can replace the BIOS chip as it is socketed unlike many other mobo manufacturers who now use BIOS chips soldered to the mobo.

Having spent many hours reading the posts on this m/b and eventually buying one, I feel it's time to give something back.

A small snippet, associated with the post quoted and prompted by a failed BIOS update using FlashMenu ( yes, I know I shouldn't have but it all seemed SOOOO easy :D ).

I have, last night, successfully managed to re-flash my corrupted BIOS as this board does in fact have a boot block BIOS. You can see this, though I hope you never do, when the BIOS checksum check fails, for example, as mine did, as the screen will display boot block BIOS and attempts to access the A: drive.

After some frantic searching the next day at work, I found this link http://www.wimsbios.com/faq/ho...ecoveracorruptbios.jsp. The part about only supporting ISA video maybe out of date, as I saw it all happen before my eyes, with a PCI-e card.

I simply created a boot floppy, in XP that as easy as right-clicking A:, doing a full format not Quick and checking the "Create MS-DOS system disc" box.

I then deleted all but the file IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM, these are all that are needed and you'll need the space, with the BIOS binary taking up a megabyte.

Using the batch files from the aBit website as a guide, I created an AUTOEXEC.BAT file ( this is the only action that the boot block BIOS will take, executing the AUTOEXEC.BAT ) containing the following command: AWDFLASH.EXE M630A17.BIN /py /sn /cc /cd /cp /cks /r
I took the underscore out of the filename, just in case it made it an invalid one, given the basic level we are working at. Call me over-cautious if you like but at this stage, I was taking no chances. I copied that to the floppy, along with AWDFLASH.EXE and the BIOS binary file.

I popped that in the drive, restarted and hey-presto, it re-flashed the BIOS and I had my PC back...phew!!!

It sounds easy but what I didn't mention, so as not to mask the important info was that I had left the floppy drive out of the PC when installing the IP35-E, just to make the case look more tidy. The drive was to hand and the cable but could I find a floppy power connector on the Seasonic S12-430, no, until I discovered it's actually a converter lead for a molex, d'oh.

That wasn't all. It seems the BIOS binary file was corrupt, as the flash stopped after about 30secs and that fateful der-der, der-der, der-der sound you get from a floppy read retry. Luckily, I'd brought home a spare PC from work but that took me an hour to rig up and get connected to the Internet to download a fresh file, not to mention lugging the old CRT monitor down from the loft, at 22:00, when everybody else was in bed, as I didn't have a lead to connect my new TFT to a VGA gfx card.

Well, there you have it. This post looks overly long now so I best stop and finish with the following advice:

1. KEEP THAT FLOPPY DRIVE. Paint it a nice colour, hide it behind a panel or something, just keep it.
2. Have a BIOS flash floppy handy
3. NEVER, NEVER, EVER use FlashMenu, EVER.

Thanks for lsitening and being a great source of info,

I've been MikeyT, have a nice day.
 

Ratman6161

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1. KEEP THAT FLOPPY DRIVE. Paint it a nice colour, hide it behind a panel or something, just keep it.

I don't have a floppy installed internally any more, but I do have a USB floppy that I use for BIOS flashes ect and the other very rare times when I need a floppy. Question: in the scenario you described, would a USB floppy still be recognized or would it have to be an internal?
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: mcMikeyT
Originally posted by: Heidfirst

abit mobos don't have a physical backup BIOS on the mobo (very few mobos do) but often you can recover from a failed flash via the bootblock

snip

I have, last night, successfully managed to re-flash my corrupted BIOS as this board does in fact have a boot block BIOS. You can see this, though I hope you never do, when the BIOS checksum check fails, for example, as mine did, as the screen will display boot block BIOS and attempts to access the A: drive.

After some frantic searching the next day at work, I found this link http://www.wimsbios.com/faq/ho...ecoveracorruptbios.jsp.
out of interest what was wrong with my original linked page?
 

mcMikeyT

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Originally posted by: Ratman6161
1. KEEP THAT FLOPPY DRIVE. Paint it a nice colour, hide it behind a panel or something, just keep it.

I don't have a floppy installed internally any more, but I do have a USB floppy that I use for BIOS flashes ect and the other very rare times when I need a floppy. Question: in the scenario you described, would a USB floppy still be recognized or would it have to be an internal?

From what I have read, it only works with the IDE floppy but I'm not certain.
 

Aqualung

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Hey guys, I didn't read the whole thread, but if anyone can help me, I would appreciate.

My motherboard is a IP35-E, anyone knows what will happen if I use a 2x 2gb 1066mhz Ram kit? The specs say that the max ram frequency support is 800mhz, have anyone tried with 1066mhz modules? Will it work?

Another thing, my processor is a E4500 (M0 Stepping), and I can't get it past 11x 266 (2926mhz, just raising the vCore by one step, ran Prime95 for over 12h), anyone could help me with that? I've tried raising VTT, lowering the memory frequency, still no sucess. But I never tried disabling C1E/EIST, does it have anything to do with it? My PC doesn't even POST once I try to raise my FSB, and then I have to reset the setup. What about the temperature "limitators", can this be it?

Tried 8x400, 10x300, 9x333 and others, with quite a few vCore changes.

If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks

PS: Sorry for my english.

EDIT: I have the most recent BIOS, and my ram modules are 667@800, I keep then at the right clock when trying to overclock, but it doesn't POST.

EDIT2: I'm using the box cooler, at 11x266 my temps don't go any higher than 55ºC (131ºF)

EDIT3: I have a 450w PSU, I think it's enough.
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: Aqualung
My motherboard is a IP35-E, anyone knows what will happen if I use a 2x 2gb 1066mhz Ram kit? The specs say that the max ram frequency support is 800mhz, have anyone tried with 1066mhz modules? Will it work?
yes, they should run but I believe that you may need to overclock to get them running at 1066.
 

MadScientist

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Originally posted by: mcMikeyT
NEVER, NEVER, EVER use FlashMenu, EVER.
Flashing your bios from DOS is the safest method, but if you take the right precautions flashing your bios using the Flash Menu program can be safe. I've done it about a 10x times on this board with no problems.
1. Your system must be completely stable. Set all oc settings back to default.
2. Turn off all running applications, especially your AV program and screensaver.
3. Download the bios file you want to flash to from Abit's website.
4. Never use one click LiveUpdate, flash from the downloaded file.
5. Optional, disconnect from the internet and turn off your firewall.
6. Pray that you don't have a power outage while flashing.


 

SolMiester

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HI, I really like this board as I only need 1 PCIe slot and have uses for the other PCI slots. Great looking with heat pipes, however will this board be okay invert mounted as in upside down?
 

Heidfirst

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the IP35-E doesn't have heatpipes.
The IP35 & IP35 Pro do though & they are OK inverted.