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The October Numbers & The Coming Currency Shock

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The October Numbers
Continuing Stress on the Jobs Front

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Republicans are celebrating 337,000 new jobs created in October, but a look behind the numbers shows the same discouraging trend of the past four years. The US economy can only create jobs in government and in areas of domestic services that cannot be outsourced or replaced with imports.

Government employment accounts for 41,000 of the new jobs. The private economy produced 296,000 jobs in October. Of these jobs, 71,000 are in construction; 36,000 are in wholesale trade, retail trade, transportation and warehousing; credit services account for 17,000 jobs; employment services (primarily temporary help) account for 55,000 jobs; school administrators and teachers and health care and social assistance account for 62,000 jobs, bars and restaurants account for 20,000 jobs.

These are not "new economy" jobs, and they are not "old economy" manufacturing jobs. Today the US economy has 2.7 million fewer manufacturing jobs and 1.26 million fewer private sector jobs than when Bush was inaugurated. The only areas of job growth are in government, waitresses and bars, education and health services, construction, and credit intermediation. Gains in these areas have been more than offset by losses elsewhere.

During October US manufacturing lost another 5,000 jobs. Charles W. McMillion, president of MBG Information Services, reports that hours worked for non-managerial manufacturing workers have declined 7.6% since the current recovery began--an unprecedented development. "Never before," writes McMillion, "has a recovery failed to increase the number of hours worked in manufacturing."

America's growing dependence on imported manufacturing goods and knowledge services means a swelling trade deficit that cannot be brought into balance by selling more abroad.

No one knows how much longer the dollar can stand the strain of heavy foreign borrowing. The policy of the Bush administration is to ignore the problem until the dollar collapses--at which time it will be too late to avoid dollar dumping as the world abandons the dollar as the reserve currency.


When that time comes, it will be very unpleasant--particularly if the US is overextended in empire-building adventures abroad.

The alliance-shattering policy of the Bush administration has left America in a weak position to call on allies for help in supporting a wounded dollar.

Americans need to wake up and to realize that their country's superpower status is imperiled.

Counterpunch

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The Coming Currency Shock

Declining Superpower Act

By Paul Craig Roberts

11/16/04 -- China's currency peg to the US dollar prevents correction of the US trade imbalace and imperils the US dollar's role as reserve currency.

In the post World War II period, the dollar took over the reserve currency role from the British pound, because the supremacy of US manufacturing guaranteed US trade surpluses. The British pound lost its role due to debts of two world wars, loss of empire, a run down industrial base, and socialist attack on UK business.

The reserve currency conveys unique advantages on the favored country. As the reserve currency, the US dollar is guaranteed a high level of demand. Foreign central banks hold their reserves in dollars, and countries are billed in dollars for their oil imports, which requires other countries to buy dollars with their currencies.

As a reserve currency fulfills world needs in addition to the functions of a domestic currency, the favored country can hemorrhage debt for a protracted period on a scale that would promptly wreck any other country's currency.

This advantage is a two-edged sword, because it permits the reserve country to behave irresponsibly by running large trade and budget deficits. When the tide turns against the reserve currency, its exchange value collapses.

The reason for the collapse is the huge stock of reserve currency held by foreigners. When other countries conclude that their hoards of dollars represent claims that the US cannot meet, dollar dumping begins. Financing for US debt dries up; interest rates rise; imported goods become unaffordable and living standards fall.

Flight from the dollar is already underway. During the past two years, the US dollar has declined 52% against the new European currency, the Euro. This decline is striking in view of the sluggish European economy and the fact that many analysts regard the Euro as merely a political currency.

Indeed, the dollar is declining against all currencies that have any international standing: the British pound, the Canadian dollar, the Australian dollar, and even against the Japanese yen despite Tokyo's intervention to support the dollar.

Overcome by hubris and superpower delusion, US policymakers are unaware of America's peril. Economists and pundits are equally in the dark.

Economists believe that decline in the dollar's exchange value will correct the US trade deficit by reducing imports and increasing exports. Once upon a time a case could be argued for this logic. But that was a time before US corporations took to outsourcing jobs and locating production for US markets offshore.

US imports of goods and services rise each time a US factory moves offshore or a US job is outsourced. Goods and services produced offshore by US corporations for US customers count as imports and worsen the trade deficit. The US cannot reduce its trade deficit by increasing sales to China of goods made by US firms in China. As Charles McMillion, president of MBG Information Services, concisely summarizes: "Outsourcing is export substitution."

It is amazing that US policymakers and economists do not understand that dollar devaluation is meaningless as long as China keeps its currency pegged to the dollar.

America's greatest trade imbalance is with China. In 2000 the US merchandise trade deficit with China became larger than the chronic US trade deficit with Japan. By 2003 the US trade deficit with China was almost twice as large as the US deficit with Japan: $124 billion versus $66 billion. This year the US trade deficit with China is expected to be $160, a 29% increase from last year.

This imbalance cannot be corrected as long as China maintains the peg. As the dollar falls against the Euro and other currencies, the Chinese currency falls with it, thus maintaining China's advantage over US goods in world markets.

Both the Clinton and Bush administrations are guilty of permitting China to maintain a grossly undervalued currency that sucks productive capacity out of the US. The combination of cheap Chinese labor and an undervalued currency are destroying US middle class living standards.

As America's industrial base erodes, so does its competitiveness and ability to close its trade deficit through exports.

Currency markets cannot correct the undervalued Chinese currency, because China does not permit its currency to be traded and there are insufficient stocks of Chinese currency in foreign hands with which to form a currency market.

Sooner or later the peg will come to an end--perhaps when China fulfills its WTO obligation to let its currency float. When the peg ends, it will deliver a severe shock to US living standards. Suddenly, Chinese manufactured goods--including advanced technology products--on which the US is now dependent will cost much more. Overnight, shopping at Wal-Mart will be like shopping in high-end department stores.

China accounts for a quarter of the US trade deficit and for one-third of the US deficit in manufactured goods, is the second largest source of US imports after Canada, and is America's third largest trading partner as conventionally measured. Despite these facts, the US government does not publish full current account data for China, instead lumping China in with "Other Countries in Asia and Africa." This keeps the magnitude of the problem out of sight.

Canada and Mexico rank as the US's two largest "trading partners" because of double counting in the measure of imports and exports. For example, the full value of auto bodies shipped across the borders to Canada and Mexico for assembly operations are counted as "exports" when they leave the US and as "imports" when they return.

In contrast US "trade" with China involves almost no double counting of component parts.

Recently, Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company declared its intention to close all US plants and to manufacture offshore for US markets. Each time the US loses an industry, America's export potential declines and America's imports rise. This scenario guarantees a rising trade deficit and the end of the dollar's reserve currency role.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy during 1981-82.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts11162004.html

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Just a comment to the last article:

If China does decide to losen the peg it will simultaneously mean that they will no longer keep buying US bonds with their export profits at the same rate as previously. We then enter the scenario where the world stops lending money to the US.

" In June, Henry said America's budget and current account deficits amounted to a "substantial risk for international financial stability".

If, or when, the rest of the world decides to stop funnelling the $US2 billion per working day that the US needs to pay for its spending, Henry says we're all in for "an economic adjustment of major proportions".

American interest rates would skyrocket and the greenback would drop like a stone, for starters
, which is why Henry argued so hard for the Reserve Bank board to drop interest rates pre-emptively this year."

smh.au
 
*sigh*

Deficits...deficits....deficits....

Reminds me of the Superman I movie.....the council ignored all the warnings until the collapse started....then *boom*

Hyper-inflation and investments (other than gold, etc) will drop rapidly.

*sigh* again.....
 
don't worry, peak oil will save us!!



all the neocon republicans are saying how a slight upturn in the economy will bring big mega debt wiping bucks for everyone. however economists point out GDP growth would have to raise 50% just to keep up with government (over)spending. that means we would have to sustain 6% GDP growth just to break even. ridiculous.

and imagine if we have a slight downturn in the economy
 
Umm...a declining dollar means our goods are more affordable overseas, which means more exports...

it also means that imports are more expensive...thus outsourcing to other countries will become less efficient....



!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: JacobJ
Umm...a declining dollar means our goods are more affordable overseas, which means more exports...

it also means that imports are more expensive...thus outsourcing to other countries will become less efficient....



!!!!!!

When we had a multitude of manufacturing facilities that would be true.. but we've moved them overseas and that is the problem.. we can't take as full an advantage as we once could. Our outsourcing will still carry a cheaper cost since inflation here will make our costs much greater than the costs there.
Generally speaking...

 
Originally posted by: JacobJ
Umm...a declining dollar means our goods are more affordable overseas, which means more exports...

it also means that imports are more expensive...thus outsourcing to other countries will become less efficient....



!!!!!!

Now we will be the check labor whores of the world.


Kiss your superpower status goodbye.


Do you think China did this intentionally?
 
OK, so if all that is true, what should people do to protect themselves, aside from buying gold?
 
Originally posted by: JacobJ
Umm...a declining dollar means our goods are more affordable overseas, which means more exports...

it also means that imports are more expensive...thus outsourcing to other countries will become less efficient....



!!!!!!

Reading the article showed that the Chinese currency is pegged to the US dollar...therefore, it goes as the dollar goes. Oil, although I thought was pegged to the US dollar also (?), could be also much more expensive as the dollar declines. Regardless, oil importation is killing us anyway.

Solving the budget deficit is one thing (fiscal conservatism), but the trade deficit is another.

Gold? Land? Foreign currency (Euros)?

Really don't know how to fix it...but somebody in DC better wake the hell up or it will be a nightmare!!
 
Originally posted by: kranky
OK, so if all that is true, what should people do to protect themselves, aside from buying gold?

I've thought about this and I came up with two places aside from gold and stuff. Real estate might be ok, even if the dollar collapses, the government itself shouldn't and so property and ownership laws stay in place. However, in CA, property is overvalued so atleast for me, this merely moves to another risk. But I guess even if real estate still initially holds it's value, when the US is no longer the economic powerhouse of the world, demand for property here will also inevitably fall.

The other idea i had was international stock funds. My 401K has an international fund option so I might have to reallocate. Once you buy into the fund, your ownership is locked in and if the dollar collapses, the fund should still retain it's value.

This twin deficit and national debt scenario is pretty scary since it could mean the collapse of US economic leadership. There's a lot of paper wealth in the US and a currency collapse would probably wipe most of it out. I'm actually an immigrant who has been here since 3, but this situation makes me wonder if I should brush up on my language of origin in case of a US economic collapse. I hope the people who voted for bush know what they're doing.

 
The only areas of job growth are in government, waitresses and bars, education and health services, construction, and credit intermediation. Gains in these areas have been more than offset by losses elsewhere

When I see positive job growth that usually means the jobs in the govt, waitress and bars, health services, construction, and credit intermediation apparently are offsetting the jobs lost elsewhere. If they didnt how can you have a positive number?

I guess simple mathematics escaped this guy. I suppose we should take the rest of his article on faith right?



 
Originally posted by: Genx87
The only areas of job growth are in government, waitresses and bars, education and health services, construction, and credit intermediation. Gains in these areas have been more than offset by losses elsewhere

When I see positive job growth that usually means the jobs in the govt, waitress and bars, health services, construction, and credit intermediation apparently are offsetting the jobs lost elsewhere. If they didnt how can you have a positive number?

I guess simple mathematics escaped this guy. I suppose we should take the rest of his article on faith right?



Que?

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
When I see positive job growth that usually means the jobs in the govt, waitress and bars, health services, construction, and credit intermediation apparently are offsetting the jobs lost elsewhere. If they didnt how can you have a positive number?

I guess simple mathematics escaped this guy. I suppose we should take the rest of his article on faith right?

You know that saying about looking at the trees too hard to notice the forest? I guess in this case, it would be looking at the snow flakes too closely to notice the avalanche.

Most of those articles are pretty self evident with a basic understanding of economics and being able to put all the pieces together.

There is an investor saying that goes if you can't build a bad case against an investment, you don't really know enough to be investing in it. Since most of us are Americans, we are in a sense investing in our country and we should all be aware of these problems.

What is at stake here is too large to brush aside. I don't think most Americans understand what it means to truly be poor. My parents are from Taiwan, and they have some pretty interesting childhood stories about being poor. Can you imagine being so poor that you eat only rice and cabbage every morning for breakfast? Being so poor that eating at a restaurant is luxury that occurs maybe once a year? So poor where young children don't get shoes because they get outgrown so fast? That was how most people in Taiwan lived 50 years ago.

I'm not necessarily saying things will get that bad. But if our currency and economy collapses, we would have nothing but decades or even a lifetime of hardship to look forward to. And once our economic leadership is lost, it may well be impossible to recover. It's always easier to sit at the top than it is to climb to the top.

The irony in this situation is that for many years, the American people and government had generally had an ignorant and selfish approach to the rest of the world. Who cares if we act arrogant. Who cares if we piss off the rest of the world. What if one day, the world collectively said 'screw you' back and America didn't matter any more? Payback is gonna be a bitch.

Of course I hope this is nothing but bad thoughts and scenarios. I no more want to live that sort of life than anyone else. But clearly the stakes are too high to ignore.
 
Originally posted by: OS
I don't think most Americans understand what it means to truly be poor.

But if our currency and economy collapses, we would have nothing but decades or even a lifetime of hardship to look forward to. And once our economic leadership is lost, it may well be impossible to recover. It's always easier to sit at the top than it is to climb to the top.

The irony in this situation is that for many years, the American people and government had generally had an ignorant and selfish approach to the rest of the world. Who cares if we act arrogant. Who cares if we piss off the rest of the world. What if one day, the world collectively said 'screw you' back and America didn't matter any more? Payback is gonna be a bitch.

Of course I hope this is nothing but bad thoughts and scenarios. I no more want to live that sort of life than anyone else. But clearly the stakes are too high to ignore.

Too bad, many Americans (except the rich of course) will understand. They will have no one to blame but ourselves for putting so much "faith" in the Bush Regime.

That's irony for you :laugh: :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
The only areas of job growth are in government, waitresses and bars, education and health services, construction, and credit intermediation. Gains in these areas have been more than offset by losses elsewhere

When I see positive job growth that usually means the jobs in the govt, waitress and bars, health services, construction, and credit intermediation apparently are offsetting the jobs lost elsewhere. If they didnt how can you have a positive number?

I guess simple mathematics escaped this guy. I suppose we should take the rest of his article on faith right?

Look at the income generated by the new jobs vs old ones. Real median income is down, in large part because the average wage is lower.

 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Look at the income generated by the new jobs vs old ones. Real median income is down, in large part because the average wage is lower.

Not according to the Bush Regime and loyal followers on here so must be a figment of the imaginations of those folks.
 
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