Dulanic
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I note that as this thread builds and builds that few have actually read the articles referenced in the OP and are instead content to attack the messenger.
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I note that as this thread builds and builds that few have actually read the articles referenced in the OP and are instead content to attack the messenger.
The three traditional ways to enlightenment are mortification of the flesh, the way of the fakir, the opening of real love via the adoration of Deity, the way of the monk or bhakti yoga, and the direct intellectual apprehension of reality via intellect, the way of the Jnana yoga. There is a fourth way but , well, we can't talk about that. The purpose of all these techniques is to provide the energy required to collapse duality. It is the energy that matters, not the technique. The best technique for any one person is probably best left to those who know how to assess such things.
The three traditional ways to enlightenment are mortification of the flesh, the way of the fakir, the opening of real love via the adoration of Deity, the way of the monk or bhakti yoga, and the direct intellectual apprehension of reality via intellect, the way of the Jnana yoga. There is a fourth way but , well, we can't talk about that. The purpose of all these techniques is to provide the energy required to collapse duality. It is the energy that matters, not the technique. The best technique for any one person is probably best left to those who know how to assess such things.
Very true. Each of the paths you state are based in traditions, the fakir (Sufi,) the monk (Buddhist and Christian,) the yogi (Hindu and Sikh.) And each requires much from those who travel those ways.
The fourth way, that you fail to mention, is the way of the warrior. The sly man who travels this difficult path may come to enlightenment much more quickly, often in the youth that one joins that road. The constancy of death and impermanence, the discipline of physical training, the requirement for courage, determination, willpower, spirit and compassion coupled with the requirement to engage with the realities of the world makes for a most interesting journey indeed.
Sometimes we can pick the road we travel, other times the road picks us.
there is no "true" way to enlightenment, pfft. liar
I can't speak to anything about a fourth way other than by assumption. I know nothing. But I see that the ego will not die of its own volition. How to get around that is a problem that seems to require grace for a dummy like me. What do you think of the paradox of will power and and the abnegation of will via surrender?
The picture of myself
Had always been
In front of my vision
Everything I thought I was
Had nothing to do with me
I see now
That I am in everything
And everything is in me
Yup.. because everyone highlights the stuff they agree with and ignores the stuff they don't.
Then whats the point of talking? If everyone will think they are right no matter what then why even have a forum?