The Obama-DOJ ordered FBI not to pursue charges against Hillary

[Jhhnn]

You keep leaving out that this was the partisan Obama-DOJ. But, you think the DOJ, as appointed by the president, should stop the FBI from bringing charges forward? Just want to clarify.

Trump's DoJ obviously agrees with Obama's DoJ or else they would have charged Hillary in the two years between then & now.

Or is the Deep State conspiracy deeper than we ever imagined possible? Was Sessions the mole? I need to hear what Alex Jones has to say before I jump to any conclusions!

 

[fskimospy]

Got it, the executive branch-appointed DOJ should step in and stop the FBI from pushing forward in your opinion. Of course it was insufficient evidence, of course.

If the news reports that the Trump DOJ stops an investigation because Trump said there was no collusion, then there was no collusion. I mean, that's what they said, so it must be the case. Amirite?

The person who said there was insufficient evidence is LITERALLY THE SOURCE FOR THE ARTICLES THAT YOU SAID PROVED SOME CONSPIRACY. It's not the 'Obama DOJ' saying it, it's the very source you thought proved your point. I even directly quoted you from your own sources that you obviously did not read.

loooooool. The self-ownage in this thread is fucking epic.

 

[fskimospy]

To once again quote Lisa Page, the person whose testimony the entire thread is about:

We neither had sufficient evidence to charge gross negligence, nor had it ever been done, because the Department viewed it as constitutionally vague’ Page told a joint committee investigating the prosecutorial decisions.

Your own source says they had insufficient evidence you incredible moron.

 

[soundforbjt]

To once again quote Lisa Page, the person whose testimony the entire thread is about:



Your own source says they had insufficient evidence you incredible moron.

But Hannity made it sound so credible last night...

 

[brandonbull]

But Hannity made it sound so credible last night...

I thought James Baker felt there was enough to bring charges.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I thought James Baker felt there was enough to bring charges.

So why hasn’t the President current administration/Justice Department not filed charges and I predict won’t file charges for the rest of this term.

Why?

Are they utterly incompetent?

or

Are there no charges to bring?

 

[fskimospy]

So why hasn’t the President current administration/Justice Department not filed charges and I predict won’t file charges for the rest of this term.

Why?

Are they utterly incompetent?

or

Are there no charges to bring?

It is amazing how hard these idiots are attempting to avoid this very simple question. If the reason Clinton wasn't indicted was corrupt Obama officials in charge of the DOJ... those officials are no longer in charge of the DOJ so she could be indicted this minute if there was reason to.

They will not address this because:

1) They have no answer
2) They are probably looking to distract from all the crimes Trump is implicated in.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I thought James Baker felt there was enough to bring charges.

Initially true

Baker acknowledged that during the weeks leading up to the announcement, Comey “would throw things out like that to get people to start talking and thinking about it and test his conclusions.”

Baker said that if he had been more convinced there was evidence that Clinton intended to violate the law, “I would have argued that vociferously with him (Comey) and maybe changed his view.”

He portrayed his former boss as someone who was open to changing his mind once he heard from his senior staff, even after drafting his announcement statement. "I think he would have been receptive to changing his view even after he wrote that thing," Baker said.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It is amazing how hard these idiots are attempting to avoid this very simple question. If the reason Clinton wasn't indicted was corrupt Obama officials in charge of the DOJ... those officials are no longer in charge of the DOJ so she could be indicted this minute if there was reason to.

They will not address this because:

1) They have no answer
2) They are probably looking to distract from all the crimes Trump is implicated in.

I know its so frustrating how nobody ever answers that question.

 

[Moonbeam]

I SlowSpider thread is like watching a doctor take a rubber hammer to a knee. There is not much there but the jerk. SlowSpider, the amygdala weight lifter. Did you know @Slowspider the world is the best it has ever been and because it is the most liberal it has ever been. The traumatized have a hard time relaxing. The glorious yellow of sour grass is ablaze in my garden behind the red branches of a Japanese maple. Peace be with you.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I SlowSpider thread is like watching a doctor take a rubber hammer to a knee. There is not much there but the jerk. SlowSpider, the amygdala weight lifter. Did you know @Slowspider the world is the best it has ever been and because it is the most liberal it has ever been. The traumatized have a hard time relaxing. The glorious yellow of sour grass is ablaze in my garden behind the red branches of a Japanese maple. Peace be with you.

Yea, yea, my amygdala, I'm stroking it now.

Classic liberalism is a great thing, today's twisted version of totalitarian authoritarian liberalism that goes against most of its original foundation is a disease. Remember when liberals fought for the right to offend?

 

[SlowSpyder]

It is amazing how hard these idiots are attempting to avoid this very simple question. If the reason Clinton wasn't indicted was corrupt Obama officials in charge of the DOJ... those officials are no longer in charge of the DOJ so she could be indicted this minute if there was reason to.

They will not address this because:

1) They have no answer
2) They are probably looking to distract from all the crimes Trump is implicated in.

1) Bullshit
2) Bullshit

If Trump acted now it would look like retaliation and not built on substance. He knows how to play his cards, anyone that's ever negotiated and worked from a position of strength would understand this. I see how you have no idea. The Hillary storm might be yet to come.

 

[ch33zw1z]

1) Bullshit
2) Bullshit

If Trump acted now it would look like retaliation and not built on substance. He knows how to play his cards, anyone that's ever negotiated and worked from a position of strength would understand this. I see how you have no idea. The Hillary storm might be yet to come.

LoL....cool story, bro.

@Fanatical Meat , what'd you think they'd say? It's because Trump's is an idiot? Lol....nah, he's playing it cool, lol.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

1) Bullshit
2) Bullshit

If Trump acted now it would look like retaliation and not built on substance. He knows how to play his cards, anyone that's ever negotiated and worked from a position of strength would understand this. I see how you have no idea. The Hillary storm might be yet to come.

Okay got it. I'm going to mark this page for a follow up post 2020 election and if Trump is not the President and no charges have been filed you can explain yourself then
I'' mark it for 2024 too just in case.

 

[brandonbull]

It is amazing how hard these idiots are attempting to avoid this very simple question. If the reason Clinton wasn't indicted was corrupt Obama officials in charge of the DOJ... those officials are no longer in charge of the DOJ so she could be indicted this minute if there was reason to.

They will not address this because:

1) They have no answer
2) They are probably looking to distract from all the crimes Trump is implicated in.

A new AG was just confirmed and the previous AG was recused so those "corrupt Obama officials" have been hanging around. Not much opportunity and the testimony from several people indicates that top officials in the DOJ had zero interest in pursuing charges against Hillary because they thought she was going to win.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Okay got it. I'm going to mark this page for a follow up post 2020 election and if Trump is not the President and no charges have been filed you can explain yourself then
I'' mark it for 2024 too just in case.

Well, if trumps admin actually locked her up, there would be nothing to chant about later. Hilary hate burns forever, and bonus points cause it's the deep state doing it all.

 

[ch33zw1z]

A new AG was just confirmed and the previous AG was recused so those "corrupt Obama officials" have been hanging around. Not much opportunity and the testimony from several people indicates that top officials in the DOJ had zero interest in pursuing charges against Hillary because they thought she was going to win.

LoL....sabotaged.

 

[interchange]

Pretty clear the intent of these articles is to distort reality to fit a narrative.

Here's reality: the FBI worked it's ass off to determine whether Clinton's email breach constituted gross negligence. They weren't able to comfortably make that determination. They consulted the Department of Justice to help interpret whether her actions constituted gross negligence. The DoJ worked their assess off to determine the answer. They felt it did not constitute gross negligence. They communicated that answer to the FBI. The FBI had no obligation to agree but decided that their opinion was correct so did not charge. There is a lot of testimony and internal communication showing a great effort to answer that question on behalf of both FBI and DoJ. Both dutifully served the exact functions prescribed to them.

None of this dismisses the possibility of bias, but none of it also demonstrates bias or remotely suggests corruption.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I know its so frustrating how nobody ever answers that question.

It's like the movie "War Games". The only way for Trumpettes to win is not to play. Start something, defend it sure, but the way that's done isn't sound for the most part.

 

[fskimospy]

A new AG was just confirmed and the previous AG was recused so those "corrupt Obama officials" have been hanging around. Not much opportunity and the testimony from several people indicates that top officials in the DOJ had zero interest in pursuing charges against Hillary because they thought she was going to win.

The AG was recused from the Russia investigation, not anything to do with Clinton.

All that aside literally every person in charge of the DOJ is, and has been a Trump appointee for basically two years now. What you're saying is simply, obviously false.

So again, why no charges? Trump's people have been in charge for years. What's the excuse now?

 

[fskimospy]

1) Bullshit
2) Bullshit

If Trump acted now it would look like retaliation and not built on substance. He knows how to play his cards, anyone that's ever negotiated and worked from a position of strength would understand this. I see how you have no idea. The Hillary storm might be yet to come.

Why is Trump acting at all? Shouldn't the DOJ be simply acting professionally and be acting on the merits of the case and not due to pressure from political appointees? Why isn't it?

LOL you guys are so used to Trump's massive corruption that at this point you think that presidents should be wielding the DOJ to get the political outcomes they want. Just unbelievably corrupt on every level. You're endorsing gangster government, which isn't a surprise as Trump acts like a mob boss.

 

[Jhhnn]

So why hasn’t the President current administration/Justice Department not filed charges and I predict won’t file charges for the rest of this term.

Why?

Are they utterly incompetent?

or

Are there no charges to bring?

They've been conditioned to lose their marbles at the mere mention of her name. It's Pavlovian. Works every time.

 

[Jhhnn]

Pretty clear the intent of these articles is to distort reality to fit a narrative.

Here's reality: the FBI worked it's ass off to determine whether Clinton's email breach constituted gross negligence. They weren't able to comfortably make that determination. They consulted the Department of Justice to help interpret whether her actions constituted gross negligence. The DoJ worked their assess off to determine the answer. They felt it did not constitute gross negligence. They communicated that answer to the FBI. The FBI had no obligation to agree but decided that their opinion was correct so did not charge. There is a lot of testimony and internal communication showing a great effort to answer that question on behalf of both FBI and DoJ. Both dutifully served the exact functions prescribed to them.

None of this dismisses the possibility of bias, but none of it also demonstrates bias or remotely suggests corruption.

Just honest people trying to do their jobs the best they could. They still are, I'm sure, which sums up Trump's problem rather neatly.

 

[fskimospy]

They've been conditioned to lose their marbles at the mere mention of her name. It's Pavlovian. Works every time.

The problem is they know Trump is insanely corrupt and incompetent. It's not like they can run on the fact that he's honest, good at his job, has lots of accomplishments, is well liked, etc. Their only outlet is 'buh buh buh HILLARY'.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

1) Bullshit
2) Bullshit

If Trump acted now it would look like retaliation and not built on substance. He knows how to play his cards, anyone that's ever negotiated and worked from a position of strength would understand this. I see how you have no idea. The Hillary storm might be yet to come.

Marked for follow up, I’ll be back March 2021 & March 2025