The Obama-DOJ ordered FBI not to pursue charges against Hillary

[Hayabusa Rider]

You do realise that you are reinforcing everyone's "bubble"?

That bubble being the bubble of people who belive in facts, cogent arguments, logic and honesty and you who seems to think that stupid gotchas and repeating crap you read on alt-right is somehow clever.


You want to pop some bubbles start with a bit of honest engagement.
Or just carry on being cheap amusement for the rest of us and reinforcing that stereotype of Trump voters being disingenuous arseholes that couldn't debate their way out of a wet paper bag.

This is why he's here. There's no arguing with a fencepost, but doing so gets attention which he must crave. As Oscar Wilde said "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

 

[soundforbjt]

Got you now. The nice thing is that I believe Manafort at least faces possible charges in NY and screw Berman and the rest. I'm not sure about Stone.

It may be that once we see the Feds largely done, NY indicts everyone including Trump even if he's in office. They could not act beyond that but the statute of limitation freezes at the time of indictment. It may be that NY is our last hope for justice in all of this. The Feds as a whole, and I include the judges, are too corrupt to provide proper justice. The Dems can investigate of course and may do so faithfully, and then it falls to the DOJ and Berman et al. Unless something drastically changes Trump can continue to harm, potentially irreparably, until January of 2021. That's enough to destroy our nation in the sense that we're no longer remotely a sham of a shadow of what we ought to be.

Manafort was just indicted by Manhattan District Attorney.

 

[SlowSpyder]

That would depend on the statistics used, either factual ones or bullshit. He's depending on the latter.

What are you talking about? I posted links. Show me your information. Fox regularly is in the lead.

Let me help you get started: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aDaJXNSmMarJjwSq0YfQCw&q=mainstream+news+viewership

What does that very first link say? What do the other links say?

It is hard to believe this is even a point of contention, I didn't think this was a secret.

 

[Jhhnn]

Unless Trump is out before that, then it could be sooner.

Or not at all. Think it through. Pardoning Manafort ahead of impeachment won't fly well. Pardoning Manafort while under impeachment would be even worse. Pardoning Manafort if the Senate convicts him would be impossible. If Trump's going down he doesn't care who goes down with him, anyway.

 

[SMOGZINN]

No matter how you spin this there is a simple truth: Trump despite chanting 'lock her up' has not. We are more than two years into his Presidency and he has not. If this is true, as you claim, Trump must be just as corrupt as you claim Obama to be. He is after all doing the exact same thing.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Or not at all. Think it through. Pardoning Manafort ahead of impeachment won't fly well. Pardoning Manafort while under impeachment would be even worse. Pardoning Manafort if the Senate convicts him would be impossible. If Trump's going down he doesn't care who goes down with him, anyway.

This is definitely true. Trump would not lift one finger to help someone else if he is not getting something out of it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What are you talking about? I posted links. Show me your information. Fox regularly is in the lead.

Let me help you get started: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aDaJXNSmMarJjwSq0YfQCw&q=mainstream+news+viewership

What does that very first link say? What do the other links say?

It is hard to believe this is even a point of contention, I didn't think this was a secret.

I see your confusion. I thought we were talking about news. Hannity isn't news. Tucker isn't news. Fox News isn't news. Now to throw a spoke in your wheels, neither is Maddow. The latter relies on evidence to form an opinion while Fox generally forms an opinion and mangles things as needed so yeah she's superior, and I don't care for Morning Joe. He gives opinion that is sometimes not properly reviewed.

Anyway, facts used to create a perspective which aren't facts isn't news. Fox is effectively Trump's state media.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Manafort was just indicted by Manhattan District Attorney.

That is splendid, no sarcasm

 

[fskimospy]

Manafort was just indicted by Manhattan District Attorney.

Man Trump sure is draining that swamp. It seems like he very well may set a record for most associates indicted and he's only halfway through his first term! Amazing.

 

[WelshBloke]

This is why he's here. There's no arguing with a fencepost, but doing so gets attention which he must crave. As Oscar Wilde said "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

Oscar Wilde was witty, intelligent and people liked him though so I'm still at a loss as to Spyders motivations.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is why he's here. There's no arguing with a fencepost, but doing so gets attention which he must crave. As Oscar Wilde said "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

Why do you presume Slow is sincere? He's an alt right propagandist, a synthetic persona created to troll. When he gets up in the morning he consults some great troll mothership out there on the web to get the talking points & proceeds from there. He's part of the firehose of falsehood trying to overwhelm the truth.

 

[1sikbITCH]

For over two years the Trump DOJ has neglected to charge Hillary Clinton. This is not anything new. Swamp is the swamp.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Man Trump sure is draining that swamp. It seems like he very well may set a record for most associates indicted and he's only halfway through his first term! Amazing.

Looking at the subject of this thread, the partisan DOJ pushing the FBI to not continue investigating, I'd say we need the swamp drained. Thankfully Trump won, we REALLY dodged a bullet.

 

[soundforbjt]

Man Trump sure is draining that swamp. It seems like he very well may set a record for most associates indicted and he's only halfway through his first term! Amazing.

He brought his own swamp with him, what better way to get it drained.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why do you presume Slow is sincere? He's an alt right propagandist, a synthetic persona created to troll. When he gets up in the morning he consults some great troll mothership out there on the web to get the talking points & proceeds from there. He's part of the firehose of falsehood trying to overwhelm the truth.

I never said he was sincere, I say he needs the attention which he gets here. His firehose is microscopic in the context of this forum as he is always pushed back on with facts and emotional response. He has no counter the the first but the emotional response is reinforced by the replies of others. Frankly I have a perverse sense of satisfaction of putting people's asses back in their hats for the things he says. I suppose he gets some financial or other consideration, but he's like an alcoholic trolling treatment centers. It's not very effective.

 

[fskimospy]

Looking at the subject of this thread, the partisan DOJ pushing the FBI to not continue investigating, I'd say we need the swamp drained. Thankfully Trump won, we REALLY dodged a bullet.

Look at the contents of your own links. They investigated it VERY thoroughly and chose not to prosecute due to insufficient evidence. That's how a professional justice department is supposed to work. It's not our fault you can't read, haha. It IS pretty funny though.

Do you find it interesting just how many of Trump's associates seem headed to prison? Seems like his son and his son in law might be headed there as well. Is it odd to you that he associates with so many criminals?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Why do you presume Slow is sincere? He's an alt right propagandist, a synthetic persona created to troll. When he gets up in the morning he consults some great troll mothership out there on the web to get the talking points & proceeds from there. He's part of the firehose of falsehood trying to overwhelm the truth.

You say the strangest things to protect your bubble. You are an evangelical leftist.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Look at the contents of your own links. They investigated it VERY thoroughly and chose not to prosecute due to insufficient evidence. That's how a professional justice department is supposed to work. It's not our fault you can't read, haha. It IS pretty funny though.

Do you find it interesting just how many of Trump's associates seem headed to prison? Seems like his son and his son in law might be headed there as well. Is it odd to you that he associates with so many criminals?

You keep leaving out that this was the partisan Obama-DOJ. But, you think the DOJ, as appointed by the president, should stop the FBI from bringing charges forward? Just want to clarify.

 

[fskimospy]

You keep leaving out that this was the partisan Obama-DOJ. But, you think the DOJ, as appointed by the president, should stop the FBI from bringing charges forward? Just want to clarify.

Your own link stated that charges were not brought due to insufficient evidence. It would be highly inappropriate if the DOJ were to bring charges despite insufficient evidence.

If there was in fact sufficient evidence then why has the Trump DOJ not bought charges in the last two years?

This is another great example of something that you emotionally want to be true so you're unable to process reality and what is actually true. You can't even read your own links correctly because they tell you things that make you feel bad emotionally.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Why do you presume Slow is sincere? He's an alt right propagandist, a synthetic persona created to troll. When he gets up in the morning he consults some great troll mothership out there on the web to get the talking points & proceeds from there. He's part of the firehose of falsehood trying to overwhelm the truth.

You laugh but that mothership is the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg. Some of the trolls we see on the forums have Russian handlers who give them instructions on the talking points of the day so that the message is cohesive and coordinated on social media.

 

[WelshBloke]

You say the strangest things to protect your bubble. You are an evangelical leftist.

Lol. You are the best thing ever for the left. The Left doesn't need to evangelise when you and your ilk are around.
I'm fairly hard left and I just know to be quiet when you lot spew as you drive public opinion left without any input from my lot.
Look at all your threads. You post something altright and stupid and get a load of people to suddenly start arguing against your idiocy on points they would never have considered before.

 

[HomerJS]

Even if we gave you this one you have a long way to catch up to Trump's hundreds in only 2 years.

You have a lot of work to do. Trump has already lapped Nixon who was rated the most corrupt administration in history.

 

[fskimospy]

Also, the FBI doesn't bring charges on anyone, period. It's literally not part of their job so it would be impossible for the DOJ to stop them because they would never do it.

Spidey doesn't even know how the government he's criticizing works, lol.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Your own link stated that charges were not brought due to insufficient evidence. It would be highly inappropriate if the DOJ were to bring charges despite insufficient evidence.

If there was in fact sufficient evidence then why has the Trump DOJ not bought charges in the last two years?

This is another great example of something that you emotionally want to be true so you're unable to process reality and what is actually true. You can't even read your own links correctly because they tell you things that make you feel bad emotionally.

Got it, the executive branch-appointed DOJ should step in and stop the FBI from pushing forward in your opinion. Of course it was insufficient evidence, of course.

If the news reports that the Trump DOJ stops an investigation because Trump said there was no collusion, then there was no collusion. I mean, that's what they said, so it must be the case. Amirite?

 

[zinfamous]

What are you talking about? I posted links. Show me your information. Fox regularly is in the lead.

Let me help you get started: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aDaJXNSmMarJjwSq0YfQCw&q=mainstream+news+viewership

What does that very first link say? What do the other links say?

It is hard to believe this is even a point of contention, I didn't think this was a secret.

It is in the lead on cable, you fucking dingus. But it doesn't matter, because any math you look at, NBC, CBS, and ABC all have more viewers than Fox News clown show.