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The O?Reilly Factor Holiday Ornament

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This article says it all, much better than I ever could, about the latest "culture war".
O?Reilly sees the War on Christmas as part of the ?secular progressive agenda,? because ?if you can get religion out, then you can pass secular progressive programs like legalization of narcotics, euthanasia, abortion at will, gay marriage.? Just as Christmas itself evolved as a way to synthesize a variety of winter festivals, so the War on Christmas fantasy is a way of grouping together a variety of enemies, where they can all be rhetorically machine-gunned at once. But the suspicion remains that a truer explanation for Fox?s militancy may be, like so much else at Yuletide, business. Christmas is the big retail season. What Fox retails is resentment.

In this war, no weapons of Christmas destruction have been found?just a few caches of linguistic oversensitivity and commercial caution. Christmas remains robust: even Gibson says in his book that in America Christmas celebrators (ninety-six per cent) outnumber Christians (eighty-four per cent). But the ?Happy Holidays? contagion has probably spread too far to be wiped out. ?President Bush and I wish everyone a very happy holiday,? Laura Bush says sweetly on a video posted on the White House Web site. And even the Fox News online store advertised, until a couple of weeks ago, ?The O?Reilly Factor Holiday Ornament.? (?Put your holiday tree in ?The No Spin Zone.? ?)
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hehe, yup. Someone posted this info(perhaps not the article) in another thread. That quote certainly sums it up. O'Reily is the Attention-Whore. Attention makes him $$.
 
Funny how the article mentions that there has been no evidence found on any attack on christmas, but fails to mention that the ACLU will not allow Christmas anything in schools.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Funny how the article mentions that there has been no evidence found on any attack on christmas, but fails to mention that the ACLU will not allow Christmas anything in schools.
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The ACLU doesn't Allow/Disallow anything. The Law/Constitution Allows/Disallows.
 
Care to direct me to the part of the constitution/law that prohibits that?

Hint: Separation of church and state is not it.

 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Care to direct me to the part of the constitution/law that prohibits that?

Hint: Separation of church and state is not it.
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Ask the Judges who used Law/Constitution as reasons for various cases. The ACLU has nothing to do with your complaint.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/kgrogan_20041210.html

You're right, the ACLU has nothing to do with it. Nevermind the link I posted, because I cannot win this argument, therefore I have decided to fold.
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The ACLU decides nothing. That's why you can't "win".
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Yep if Little White has a problem it should be with the courts who rule on these cases, not the ACLU who presents them.

BTW I believe that O"riely should be sodomized with a Pool Cue for making this "War on Christmas" BS front page news. Of course after hearing about his phone calls to a female subordinate I also believe that sick fsck would probably enjoy it.
 
Saying the ACLU has nothing to do with this is the exact same as saying the civil rights movement had nothing to do with ending segragation.

 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Saying the ACLU has nothing to do with this is the exact same as saying the civil rights movement had nothing to do with ending segragation.
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They bring up an issue for the Court to decide. The Court decides, not the ACLU.
 
You liberals absolutely suck at arguing. You've made no counter-points and keep straying off topic. I find evidence of the ACLU attacking christmas and the only response I get is "the courts are the ones to blame for that". Isn't this thread about how there really is no war on christmas? Courts, ACLU, whatever...you haven't proved me wrong on that, you just tried to stray away from the topic.

 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
You liberals absolutely suck at arguing. You've made no counter-points and keep straying off topic. I find evidence of the ACLU attacking christmas and the only response I get is "the courts are the ones to blame for that". Isn't this thread about how there really is no war on christmas? Courts, ACLU, whatever...you haven't proved me wrong on that, you just tried to stray away from the topic.
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I've made the ultimate counter-point: The ACLU decides nothing. They bring a subject up, the Courts find they are right according to the Law, judgement is made by the Courts.
 
Okay, you've made the point that the courts are ultimately the deciding factor, but the ACLU brings it to court, so they are responsible.

But where have you countered my evidence that there IS a war on christmas? Which, ahem, is the topic at hand. Of course if you haven't anything to say, you can fold.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Okay, you've made the point that the courts are ultimately the deciding factor, but the ACLU brings it to court, so they are responsible.

But where have you countered my evidence that there IS a war on christmas? Which, ahem, is the topic at hand. Of course if you haven't anything to say, you can fold.
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The Law is responsible. If it wasn't, the ACLU would be losing constantly.

My counter to the "War of XMas" is that it's just a PR campaign. Saying "Happy Holidays" hasnothing to do with a "War". It's simply being inclusive of other celebrations that occur during the same time period. What's happening is a War on Reality, that reality being that not everyone is celebrating Christmas.
 
Without the ACLU bringing this hogwash to court, there would be no radical leftist judge to legislate his shared views with them.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Without the ACLU bringing this hogwash to court, there would be no radical leftist judge to legislate his shared views with them.
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What's Hogwash about it?

 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Without the ACLU bringing this hogwash to court, there would be no radical leftist judge to legislate his shared views with them.
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What? The ACLU brings something to court and "radical Leftist Judges" just pop into existance? Must be voodoo.

What you are sayin is that a Crime only exists because of Prosecutors. The Crime always existed, the Prosecutor presented the Crime and Criminal to the Court, the Court found the Criminal Guilty of the Crime.

Just the same with the ACLU, they presented a Wrong that has always existed to a Court, the Court ruled it was a Wrong. Don't blame the ACLU, blame the Wrong that has been perpetuated unchallenged for all this time.
 
Why is christmas in schools a wrong? Where in the constitution does it say we aren't allowed to celebrate anything christmas during school? Children are always allowed to opt out without any trouble.

Again, another hint:

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

So where in the law does it say christmas and public schools don't mix?
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Why is christmas in schools a wrong? Where in the constitution does it say we aren't allowed to celebrate anything christmas during school? Children are always allowed to opt out without any trouble.

Again, another hint:

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

So where in the law does it say christmas and public schools don't mix?
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Ask the Courts. Where does it say it's ok?
 
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