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The NFL to punish players for "dangerous" tackling

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James Harrison fined 75k for this hit....

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Note: Feet on the ground and helmet to the side when contact is made

That pic doesn't show anything. Watch the video and tell me that isn't a dirty hit, he's launching himself into the air, and aiming solely at the other player's head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXJy3dap3o

Yes, I know, shitty text all over the video, but the sad thing is, that's better quality than the others I was able to find quickly.
 
James Harrison is the whiniest little girl ever. I used to like him, but that's just pathetic.

I wish he had retired.
 
That pic doesn't show anything. Watch the video and tell me that isn't a dirty hit, he's launching himself into the air, and aiming solely at the other player's head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXJy3dap3o

Yes, I know, shitty text all over the video, but the sad thing is, that's better quality than the others I was able to find quickly.

Coming from a Steeler fan, it was a dirty hit.

This on the other hand, is so dirty.

(Oh, by the way, to get rid of the annoying text in both videos, you can click the little red chat bubble right next to 360p.)
 
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They stop leading with the helmet and they won't be fined/suspended, it's that simple. The leading with the head hits were egregious this weekend and all of them deserved to be fined.

Hell, suspend blatant losers like Harrison who claim he won't stop hitting this way. No place in football for that kind of shit.
 
Coming from a Steeler fan, it was a dirty hit.

This on the other hand, is so dirty.

(Oh, by the way, to get rid of the annoying text in both videos, you can click the little red chat bubble right next to 360p.)

That hit was not dirty (the hit from Harrison to Masseuqoui.)

It's pretty clear that Harrison was leading the run (because you can't tackle someone reliably from behind) when #56 was able to slow Masseuqoui down enough to where the "leading" became the problem. All of it happens in a matter of seconds, and to expect someone that weights that much to adjust on a dime is illogical.

I heard they're going to require these new pads ...

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lol at all the internet toughies in this thread that would probably be put into a coma if one of these poorly-trained idiots put an illegal hit on them.

😀
 
Reggie Bush doesn't like the enforcement. He says he'd rather take a hit up high and risk a concussion than take one low and risk a blown out knee.

He's got a point. A knee injury can shelve a player for months, or even end their career, and in a game where the average career is 3.5 years, these guys are out to make as much money as possible. Concussions, while more damaging long-term, mean less time off the field which means more money in their pockets. Yeah, the long-term effects suck, but at this point all potential NFL players should be aware of the risks and the health effects of playing in the NFL.

The NFL should step up enforcement of deliberate attempts to injury another player, but I'm not in favor of suspending a guy for helmet-to-helmet contact.
 
Reggie Bush doesn't like the enforcement. He says he'd rather take a hit up high and risk a concussion than take one low and risk a blown out knee.

He's got a point. A knee injury can shelve a player for months, or even end their career, and in a game where the average career is 3.5 years, these guys are out to make as much money as possible. Concussions, while more damaging long-term, mean less time off the field which means more money in their pockets. Yeah, the long-term effects suck, but at this point all potential NFL players should be aware of the risks and the health effects of playing in the NFL.

The NFL should step up enforcement of deliberate attempts to injury another player, but I'm not in favor of suspending a guy for helmet-to-helmet contact.

isn't this what they are going for? just the deliberate attempts?
 
That pic doesn't show anything. Watch the video and tell me that isn't a dirty hit, he's launching himself into the air, and aiming solely at the other player's head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXJy3dap3o

Yes, I know, shitty text all over the video, but the sad thing is, that's better quality than the others I was able to find quickly.

Picture shows that a: his foot was on the ground b: the initial contact was with his shoulder pads, most everything after that is a moot point and basically uncontrollable by anyone not posting from ATOT
 
Reggie Bush doesn't like the enforcement. He says he'd rather take a hit up high and risk a concussion than take one low and risk a blown out knee.

He's got a point. A knee injury can shelve a player for months, or even end their career, and in a game where the average career is 3.5 years, these guys are out to make as much money as possible. Concussions, while more damaging long-term, mean less time off the field which means more money in their pockets. Yeah, the long-term effects suck, but at this point all potential NFL players should be aware of the risks and the health effects of playing in the NFL.

The NFL should step up enforcement of deliberate attempts to injury another player, but I'm not in favor of suspending a guy for helmet-to-helmet contact.

I definitely see the financial aspect of it. But what good is money if you go crazy because of brain damage? Hell, a college football player killed himself recently due to brain trauma (CTE).
http://www.bu.edu/today/node/11495

The alarming rate of ex-NFL players (Chris Henry, Andre Waters, Mike Webster, Terry Long, Justin Strzelczyk, Tom McHale) and others who were in contact sports (wrestlers like Chris Benoit) offing themselves and/or committing crimes of rage (Junior Seau? Rae Carruth, Warren Sapp etc) shows what actually happens when a brain suffers from CTE. While it'd be easy to say, "who gives a shit about them it's their choice to play" we still should strive to ensure that these people are not a threat to society because of their profession. Reducing violent hits is a step in the right direction for everyone.
 
All NFL tackles will now be replaced with soothing hugs. Patting the passers back to hard during the hug is a 10 yard penalty.
 
I definitely see the financial aspect of it. But what good is money if you go crazy because of brain damage? Hell, a college football player killed himself recently due to brain trauma (CTE).
http://www.bu.edu/today/node/11495

The alarming rate of ex-NFL players (Chris Henry, Andre Waters, Mike Webster, Terry Long, Justin Strzelczyk, Tom McHale) and others who were in contact sports (wrestlers like Chris Benoit) offing themselves and/or committing crimes of rage (Junior Seau? Rae Carruth, Warren Sapp etc) shows what actually happens when a brain suffers from CTE. While it'd be easy to say, "who gives a shit about them it's their choice to play" we still should strive to ensure that these people are not a threat to society because of their profession. Reducing violent hits is a step in the right direction for everyone.

God most of the people you named were roid heads to the max. I guess that does not have anything to do with it? Saying hits to the head cause all their problems is ridiculous.
 
Some of these hits are absolutely flagrant and deserve punishment. The hit on Jackson, for example. Don't lead with your helmet, it's that simple. Use your arms/hands/shoulders like technique teaches. Leading with your head is just stupid, period.
 
God most of the people you named were roid heads to the max. I guess that does not have anything to do with it? Saying hits to the head cause all their problems is ridiculous.

Everyone I named (who is dead) had their brain tissue analyzed to have CTE. It's not ridiculous, all of them committed violent and/or suicide. There is no trend of baseball/tennis/basketball players doing this, only high contact to the head sports like football which can cause rage and/or depression after CTE.

http://www.bu.edu/today/node/11495

Read the fcking link, I'm not quoting it here.
 
Some of these hits are absolutely flagrant and deserve punishment. The hit on Jackson, for example. Don't lead with your helmet, it's that simple. Use your arms/hands/shoulders like technique teaches. Leading with your head is just stupid, period.

I completely agree with this. There are plenty of players out there who can make tackles and big hits without going around headbutting people.

Harrison is hilarious. He makes 6-7M/year so he has 20M+ just in the last 3 years and he's whining about retiring off a 75k fine, which he got from being a repeat offender. It's about the same as a couple of traffic tickets for a normal person. At least Harrison is not as bad as Channing Crowder, who was crazy enough to say that the helmet is there to be used as a weapon.

I'm with the NFL on this one. They need to protect their main assets, their employees. Workplace safety is one of those basic things that should be enforced after the new research about long-term effects of concussions. Just because it's "always" been that way doesn't mean it's the right way. Football players used to get killed every year when the game was first invented. That doesn't mean it was the right way to do things.

I'm surprised there aren't more enforcers in football. Just take a useless 53rd man out there and have him thug up the best players on the other team. It's trivial to "accidentally" roll into a linebacker's knee in retaliation while another guy is blocking him.

If you don't think hits to the head causes problems, just take a look at boxing and see what happens to long-time retired boxers.
 
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they are going to legislate this game to death. forbidding hitting high means they will hit low, then flagrant hits at the knee will be banned. i think sunday's hits were too much, but they shouldn't be subject to retroactive penalties.

I propose flag football.
 
At the same time, who would pay money to go see the backup quarterback if the star QB is injured due to a bad hit?

a ton of people. You really think there are only 32 people in this country qualified to play QB in the NFL. No F'n way. There are plenty of people that could be fun QB's to watch around the league.
 
God most of the people you named were roid heads to the max. I guess that does not have anything to do with it? Saying hits to the head cause all their problems is ridiculous.

Ok Mr MD.

Steroids have nothing to do with brain functions. They enhance testosterone production for faster muscle building and recovery.
 
a ton of people. You really think there are only 32 people in this country qualified to play QB in the NFL. No F'n way. There are plenty of people that could be fun QB's to watch around the league.

Uhh about half of the starting QBs in the NFL kind of blow (relatively speaking).
 
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