The Next Frontier in Social Justice: Fattitude

[nehalem256]

BMI, while supported by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, was designed decades ago by the insurance industry as a way of assessing the health of groups of people, not individuals, said Chevese Turner of the Binge Eating Disorder Association.
“Dieting, especially for kids, is the gateway drug for eating disorders, and so is the public shaming that can come with this,” she said of the Fitnessgrams.

According to Gelder, Mayou and Geddes (2005) bulimia nervosa is prevalent between 1 and 2 percent of women aged 15–40 years. Bulimia nervosa occurs more frequently in developed countries

Anorexia has an average prevalence of 0.3–1% in women and 0.1% in men for the diagnosis in developed countrie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexic#Epidemiology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia_nervosa#Epidemiology

So we should avoid dealing with a problem that affects 66% of people because it might trigger a problem that affects 3% of people?

What about this math doesn't quite make sense?

 

[Nebor]

Frowning on something!= shaming.

Because we frown on things that we approve of...

 

[Nebor]

She probably is overweight. "Overweight" means a relatively small amount of excess fat, not a huge ass, double chin, and rolls everywhere. Most people just have a skewed perception of weight and classify morbidly obese as overweight, and overweight as skinny.

Sadly, the obese mother isn't using this as an opportunity for reflection, and the girl will almost certainly be unarguably fat in a few more years. They'll blame it on genetics.

Spot on. The mom is fat and is enabling the daughter to get fat.

 

[MrPickins]

I'm not talking about shaming in the way Nebor is doing it, I doubt that would work at all.
But the "hey don't you want to play ball with your kids" or "Don't leave your kids early, get healthy and stick around" stuff is worth trying.

This I can agree with.

Because we frown on things that we approve of...

I don't consider calling someone a fat piece of shit to be "frowning" on their behavior...

 

[halik]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/2...er-gets-school-letter-calling-her-overweight/

I'm gonna guess the girl is kinda fat and they're using an ooold picture in the article (given that it looks like shit) .

 

[nehalem256]

I'm gonna guess the girl is kinda fat and they're using an ooold picture in the article (given that it looks like shit) .

No, I think the issue is that 9 year old girls are apparently suppose to be quite thin. Just the constant assault of obesity makes her seem petite.

The report says that she has a BMI of 19, which would not be overweight for an adult, yet it puts her at the 88th percentile for 9 year old girls. Considering that last time she was only in the 77th percentile coupled with her obviously overweight mother it is cause for concern not panic.

Basically the solution should be perhaps cutting down the number of sweets you give your daughter, or perhaps signing her up for soccer.

Or hey wait until she balloons to 300 pounds at age 20 before addressing things because there is a small chance she might get an eating disorder.

 

[BoberFett]

Percentiles seem like a bad way to measure a healthy body weight. As everyone gets fatter, the percentile will change, even though health is not relative to anyone but you.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Percentiles seem like a bad way to measure a healthy body weight. As everyone gets fatter, the percentile will change, even though health is not relative to anyone but you.

It really isn't, no one under 15% bodyfat is fat. This will always remain true.

 

[Fenixgoon]

It really isn't, no one under 15% bodyfat is fat. This will always remain true.

a buddy of mine who was ridiculously fit (still is to some degree) said it's something like below 10% body fat is actually dangerous to your health.

i've heard 12% is kind of the "perfect" spot so to speak.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

a buddy of mine who was ridiculously fit (still is to some degree) said it's something like below 10% body fat is actually dangerous to your health.

i've heard 12% is kind of the "perfect" spot so to speak.

Below 5-6% isn't a sustainable level, anything above that is.

12% is a level you can live with for a long period but really, anything between 10-15% is. Note that this is for men, for women you add 7% for precious resources.

 

[Burning Bush]

I seem to recall the CDC began tracking obesity in the U.S. in 1982. I watched a Frontline show where they showed a map of the U.S. and one state was shaded, indicating a higher percentage of it's population was obese. As years passed, all the states turned pink, then, one by one, they all turned red, indicating an even higher percentage of people were obese, and some were more than that. The CDC had to add new categories, including morbid obesity and super morbid obesity. Maybe the next new category will be super duper morbid obesity. To complicate matter, somewhere along the line, the AMA called the problem a disease, and the Americans with Disabilities Act made obese people victims and store and restaurant owners were forced to make their business friendly to all super obese people. The World Cup Soccer in Brazil has gone even further. They installed double wide seats for obese and are giving them 50% off and a free companion ticket.

The number of obese has grown steadily. It's the result of over eating and lack of exercise. That should be obvious to everyone. In 25 years, the U.S. could have 75% of it's population being obese, morbidly obese, and super morbidly obese, or whatever they are planning to call them. Government health care will not judge them or charge them more. Instead, you joggers and cyclists and healthy people get to subsidize the fat people's health care.

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[Chaotic42]

I used to be fat. I lost about 60 pounds by going on a low carb diet and adopting a hobby that burns calories (MMA) and eating better. And guess what happens if I slack? If I start eating shitty food again and take a break from class, I slowly gain weight back. But then, when I step on the scale, and I realize this I just eat healthier and go exercise and the pounds come off. Holy shit.

Yep. I'm still losing weight. Down to 213 with no end in sight.

I wonder how many people who "can't lose weight" have honestly and seriously tried (for months). I know it's hard, I'm a complete carb addict, but it is completely possible.

 

[nehalem256]

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Interesting that the bottom low weight category is referred to as anorexia, which everyone immediately associates with a horrible disease.

Whereas for the top high weight category they call it SUPER obese.

So if you are underweight you are referred to as diseased, whereas if you are overweight you are referred to as super.

 

[BoberFett]

It really isn't, no one under 15% bodyfat is fat. This will always remain true.

Percentiles have nothing to do with percent body fat.

 

[MrPickins]

I'm gonna guess the girl is kinda fat and they're using an ooold picture in the article (given that it looks like shit) .

Did you watch the actual interview?

The girl looks healthy to me...