The New Argentinian President Deserves His Own Thread

[IronWing]

All he has to do to explain to the Tories how much the Falklands is costing the British taxpayer and we'll see Falk'it.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The people who live there say otherwise.

They think potato wedges are 'chips'

Brightness ain't one of their strong points.

 

[sdifox]

All he has to do to explain to the Tories how much the Falklands is costing the British taxpayer and we'll see Falk'it.

Just borrow Farage's bus.

 

[darkswordsman17]

The people who live there say otherwise.

Then Argentina should just follow Israel's playbook.

 

[Vic]

To be fair, every Argentinian president and presidential candidate pledges to capture the Falklands. It's never going to happen, but they will continue to pledge it forever.

It might help their cause if any Argentinians actually lived on the islands. Or ever had.

 

[Vic]

It's interesting how these populist/nationalist leaders like to play the Champion of the People but are really just conmen clowns distracting the people from the global elites robbing them blind.
It's somehow so obvious a con, yet it fools so many.

 

[cytg111]

What would the Brits do if the Scotts went for independence?

That's what I dont get about Taiwan and the Falklands. Ukraine for that matter. If people dont want the shit you're selling step the f off.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

It should be theirs. Brits Go Home.

Brexit.

And America should belong to the native population. Brits (and French, and German, and Spanish, and everyone else) go home.

 

[KMFJD]

A few updates....things appear to be happening as predicted

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760066734201929973

 

[Perknose]

A few updates....things appear to be happening as predicted

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1760066734201929973

When will these retrograde idiots, here in America and everywhere else, LEARN that their BS ideas are stupid and ruinous?

 

[Jaskalas]

When will these retrograde idiots, here in America and everywhere else, LEARN that their BS ideas are stupid and ruinous?

Humans first and foremost, form associations. One of those might be with learning. The others are not.
In times of stress, learning is NOT what people cling to. Instead the strong man says we'll hurt the bad people, cast out the bad thing. And the crowd goes wild.
That is just what we are, it is what we will keep doing time and again. I'd wager that, for most of humanity's actions, we are utterly incapable of learning. For that would have required forming a proper association with an institution of learning in the first place. Anytime we face stress, those same institutions are blamed and burned down. See COVID response.

You ask "when".
I say "never".

 

[fskimospy]

When will these retrograde idiots, here in America and everywhere else, LEARN that their BS ideas are stupid and ruinous?

I think the criticism that Argentina’s government was insanely bloated is accurate and that this was a major contributing factor to its economic decline and it’s not necessarily surprising that the guy who lost was the guy managing a lot of that decline.

That being said, massive disruptions like this generally have ruinous consequences, at least in the short term, and his idea that things are going to be much better in a few months seem…implausible.

 

[sdifox]

I think the criticism that Argentina’s government was insanely bloated is accurate and that this was a major contributing factor to its economic decline and it’s not necessarily surprising that the guy who lost was the guy managing a lot of that decline.

That being said, massive disruptions like this generally have ruinous consequences, at least in the short term, and his idea that things are going to be much better in a few months seem…implausible.

List of countries by public sector size - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Doesn't look like crazy percentage.

 

[fskimospy]

List of countries by public sector size - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Doesn't look like crazy percentage.

Their percentage of government spending to GDP was high for a developing country, they had crazy currency controls, etc.

This new guy’s policies are terrible, and he appears to be genuinely insane. The old policies were quite obviously terrible too though as shown by the results for decades. I think in their desperation Argentinians latched on to a maniac.

 

[hal2kilo]

They think potato wedges are 'chips'

Brightness ain't one of their strong points.

I thought they were generally fried in lard salt snacks.

 

[sdifox]

Their percentage of government spending to GDP was high for a developing country, they had crazy currency controls, etc.

This new guy’s policies are terrible, and he appears to be genuinely insane. The old policies were quite obviously terrible too though as shown by the results for decades. I think in their desperation Argentinians latched on to a maniac.

Malaise of Argentine economy is eternal it seems.

 

[Amol S.]

He's going to get lynched by his voters withing 3 years if he actually enacts what he said to get elected, that's the crazy thing. He'd wipe out 90% of the countries savings and get rid of most public safety nets....

But....he's already walked back dollarizing the economy so maybe his dogs have counselled him to not do all the crazy shit they told him to say....

/yes he actually consults his dogs for advice

Tantric Sex and Dog Cloning: A Guide to Argentina's Trumpy New President

Right-wing candidate Javier Milei won Argentina’s presidency in a runoff election Sunday night. Donald Trump is a fan.

www.rollingstone.com

La mayor locura de Milei: el hombre que clonó a su perro Conan y habla con él a través de una médium

El candidato favorito en las elecciones argentinas, un hombre solitario, jamás aceptó la muerte de su "hijo" en 2017 y lo sigue nombrando como si viviera.

www.elespanol.com

Argentina's version of Donald Trump?

 

[KMFJD]

Argentina's version of Donald Trump?

a bit crazier, takes advise from his dead dogs

 

[Zorba]

Their percentage of government spending to GDP was high for a developing country, they had crazy currency controls, etc.

This new guy’s policies are terrible, and he appears to be genuinely insane. The old policies were quite obviously terrible too though as shown by the results for decades. I think in their desperation Argentinians latched on to a maniac.

This was a decade ago now, but I worked for a small gas processing equipment maker. We sold a company in Argentina a synthetic national gas rig that was required to operate a power plant there. It sat at the port for months waiting to be allowed in because Argentina wouldn't import anything unless/until there was a balance export.

 

[Moonbeam]

In a world full of self hating people, the one we do in fact live in, there will inevitably arise a great political appetite for the ideas of insane politicians. They are free from the typical restraints imposed by fidelity to the ideals of logic or reason and are capable of expressing, therefore, with great fanatical certitude and moral vigor, and without revealing any signs of inner duplicity or doubt whatsoever, all the fantastical, egotistic notions bottled up in the psychic life of those who suffer from victim mentality and the concomitant cravings for instant gratitude and violent retribution as phantasmagorical compensation for the miserable mental state that such lives, full of self hate, create.

 

[darkswordsman17]

A few updates....things appear to be happening as predicted

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1760066734201929973

Eh, guy took office what 2 months ago? You're not gonna be reigning in the systemic poverty that country has dealt with in that amount of time. I mean, come on, that's like the Turmp dick sucking morons talking about how good the economy was doing when he inherited one that was humming along and Republicans bent every direction possible to give corporations and megarich as much as they could to try and overheat it so they could do another run on the American money machine.

That being said, I can't imagine his policies are gonna help that any. But most likely he's gonna not end up rocking the boat much because the vested interests have let him in on the grift.

Isn't it interesting that countries all over the world are experiencing very similar political issues, regardless of their actual method of governance, number of political parties (the truth is, most issues come down to pretty straightforward binaries and a lot of those issues align pretty steadyfast in the overall binary).

I didn't know Argentina was big in zero-day exploit hacking. Which explains why there was an attempt at pushing crypto so hard there. It would've made it easy for them to do what drug cartels did, launder their money, build up lavish compounds to live in secluded/obscured luxury, pump enough into the local economy to keep on peoples' good will, and bribe the national government to keep them safe internationally. Makes me wonder how much of a role that stuff played in electing this guy.

Didn't one of the Call of Duty games have some Argentinian guy that hijacked some weapon satellite to commit terrorism or something?

Malaise of Argentine economy is eternal it seems.

That's almost certainly been intentional, with the source of it being in flux (internal vs external). And that's the issue when instability is brought into your political system and why, even without ever getting the insane things they want, Republicans have already fucked up America for probably at least half a century, possibly longer, if not permanently. I think we're a lot closer to that level of general empathy that occasionally boils up a bit into unrest, but basically prevents stability from taking hold.

 

[KMFJD]

Eh, guy took office what 2 months ago? You're not gonna be reigning in the systemic poverty that country has dealt with in that amount of time. I mean, come on, that's like the Turmp dick sucking morons talking about how good the economy was doing when he inherited one that was humming along and Republicans bent every direction possible to give corporations and megarich as much as they could to try and overheat it so they could do another run on the American money machine.

That being said, I can't imagine his policies are gonna help that any. But most likely he's gonna not end up rocking the boat much because the vested interests have let him in on the grift.

Isn't it interesting that countries all over the world are experiencing very similar political issues, regardless of their actual method of governance, number of political parties (the truth is, most issues come down to pretty straightforward binaries and a lot of those issues align pretty steadyfast in the overall binary).

Which, I didn't know Argentina was big in zero-day exploit hacking. Which explains why there was an attempt at pushing crypto so hard there. It would've made it easy for them to do what drug cartels did, launder their money, build up lavish compounds to live in secluded/obscured luxury, pump enough into the local economy to keep on peoples' good will, and bribe the national government to keep them safe internationally. Makes me wonder how much of a role that stuff played in electing this guy.

Which, didn't one of the Call of Duty games have some Argentinian guy that hijacked some weapon satellite to commit terrorism or something?



That's almost certainly been intentional, with the source of it being in flux (internal vs external). And that's the issue when instability is brought into your political system and why, even without ever getting the insane things they want, Republicans have already fucked up America for probably at least half a century, possibly longer, if not permanently. I think we're a lot closer to that level of general empathy that occasionally boils up a bit into unrest, but basically prevents stability from taking hold.

you are correct, it went from around 40% to now over 50%, devaluing the currency by half doesn't help as well as the cuts to welfare that are planned...but a lot of the people affected by this voted for it. They're economy has been bleak for many years and was crashing because of the last governments failure to react to reality of the situation.

 

[sdifox]

They have to cut back on their social subsidies, but that is not gonna fly with the Argentines. Structual overspending from Peron era is still haunting them.

Argentina’s Economic Crisis Never Went Away

Argentines remain enmeshed in a populist policy trap as inflation soars past a whopping 70 percent.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[gothuevos]

I think the criticism that Argentina’s government was insanely bloated is accurate and that this was a major contributing factor to its economic decline and it’s not necessarily surprising that the guy who lost was the guy managing a lot of that decline.

That being said, massive disruptions like this generally have ruinous consequences, at least in the short term, and his idea that things are going to be much better in a few months seem…implausible.

This is by design though, and what he campaigned on. Crashing the peso and moving to dollarization. Short term pain for....?

 

[hal2kilo]

They have to cut back on their social subsidies, but that is not gonna fly with the Argetines. Structual overspending from Peron era is still haunting them.

Argentina’s Economic Crisis Never Went Away

Argentines remain enmeshed in a populist policy trap as inflation soars past a whopping 70 percent.

foreignpolicy.com

They had a bad habit of flipping off banks for decades. Iceland did it, but they had their shit together when they did.