"The new anti-semitism"

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Fears of anti-Semitism sweep Europe
Leftists, intellectuals blaming Israel for world's ills

Veronique Mistiaen, Jody K. Biehl and Elizabeth Bryant, Chronicle Foreign Service Sunday, December 14, 2003



London -- On Britain's National Holocaust Remembrance Day, the Independent newspaper runs a cartoon of a bloodthirsty Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon devouring a Palestinian baby. Despite many complaints, it is named best cartoon of 2003 by the U.K. Political Cartoon Society.

Anti-globalization groups in Germany invoke old stereotypes of Jews as global manipulators by suggesting that Jews played a major role in planning the Iraq war and the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

A book alleging that the CIA and Israel's Mossad intelligence agency conspired to plot the attacks on New York and Washington sits on the German best-seller list for months.

Anti-Semitism has existed in Europe since pre-medieval times, finding its ultimate expression in the Holocaust. While often associated with lower classes of society, historians agree that intellectuals played a key role in the rise of Adolf Hitler by providing justifications and excuses for his racist doctrine.

With that dismal record in mind, alarm is growing over the increasingly frequent and strident attacks being launched, in leftist and liberal circles, by European academics, politicians and media figures against Israel for its treatment of the Palestinians.

"It is now almost impossible to have a decent discussion with people on the left about Israel because it is regarded as being entirely responsible for everything that has gone wrong" in the Middle East, David Aaronovitch, a columnist for the Guardian and Observer newspapers, wrote in a recent BBC News Online forum.

Some observers believe that the criticism is so ferocious in its tone and so one-sided in its analysis that it is stoking a surge of anti-Semitism in Europe already being fed by hostility toward Jews among the continent's millions of Muslim immigrants. In some cases -- as with the leftist Greek composer, Mikis Theodorakis, who declared in November that the Jews are "the root of evil" -- the attacks have become incendiary.

Most critics of Israel, including Theodorakis, deny that they are anti-Semitic, either on a conscious or unconscious level. They insist that criticism of Israeli policies toward the Palestinians is perfectly legitimate. But Jews feel that their long and bitter experience as political and societal scapegoats gives them a sharp sense of when the fine line dividing responsible free speech from outright bigotry is being crossed.

A milestone was reached last month, when the European Union released a poll showing that Europeans believe that Israel is the biggest threat to world peace -- ranking higher than North Korea, Iran and the United States.

The poll stunned Jewish and Israeli leaders alike.

Nathan Sharansky, the former Soviet dissident who is now an Israeli Cabinet minister, angrily urged the EU "to stop the rampant brainwashing against and demonizing of Israel before Europe deteriorates once again to dark sections of its past."

Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center, said the poll "shows that anti-Semitism is deeply embedded within European society, more than any other period since the end of World War II."

The phenomenon of extreme criticism of Israel morphing into bigotry against Jews as a people has surfaced strongly in Britain, the Western European nation that has historically been the most tolerant toward Jews.

"The demonization of Israel had led to the demonization of its supporters and Jews in general," said Emanuele Ottolenghi, a fellow at the Oxford Center for Hebrew and Jewish Studies and the Middle East Center at St. Antony's College, Oxford.

There is a feeling among the 300,000 or so Jews living in the United Kingdom that they are being silenced, adds Ottolenghi. "In order to live quietly, it is advisable not to identify yourself as a Jew, unless you do so in conjunction with strong condemnation of Israel. The feeling is that Jews in Europe today are on probation. And the U.K. is no different."

In Britain, Ottolenghi and others say, the trend has been led primarily by the left-wing and liberal press. They cite the growing number of Judeophobic statements and characterizations since Sept. 11.

Only slightly less over the top than the cartoon of Sharon, the cover of the New Statesman magazine's Jan. 14, 2002, issue featured a huge, glistening gold Star of David piercing a British flag under the headline: "A kosher conspiracy? Britain's pro-Israel lobby."

In an interview with Vanity Fair in May 2003, Tam Dalyell, a parliamentary member of the ruling Labor Party, complained that a "cabal of Jewish advisers" unduly influenced Prime Minister Tony Blair. He mentioned Lord Levy, Blair's Middle East envoy; former top aide Peter Mandelson, whose father is Jewish; and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, one of whose grandparents was Jewish.

Glasgow MP George Galloway, who has since been expelled from the Labor Party for his outspoken criticism of the Iraq war, called for Scots to boycott goods from Israel in response to the violence in the Middle East. His appeal followed a motion calling for a suspension of trade with Israel signed by 71 MPs.

Last July, two Israeli academics were removed from the editorial boards of two U.K. linguistics journals as part of a boycott of academic contacts with Israel.

Ottolenghi complained that while the liberal, left-wing press and elements of academia "are quite prepared to denounce right-wing anti-Semitism, they deny any wrongdoing on the left and within the Muslim communities, whence the worst attacks come from."

Similar troubles are occurring in Germany, where Jews number 98,000 in a country of 82 million.

While anti-Semitism was in recent decades mainly the domain of the right wing, the uneducated and disenfranchised youths, it is now cropping up in places where it was once taboo -- intellectual, political and leftist circles. In the past 20 months, five cases of openly anti-Semitic rhetoric and one in a novel by a prize-winning author have rocked the nation and instigated a flurry of discussion about the state of German-Jewish relations.

Many believe that part of the impetus for the "new" anti-Semitism is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the overwhelmingly negative attitude Germans and the German press have toward Sharon and his aggressive treatment of the Palestinians.

The sentiments have become common enough to prompt the highly respected Suddeutsche Zeitung newspaper to suggest last month that anti-Semitism has become so open that it is once again salonfaehig -- socially acceptable -- within intellectual circles.

Deirdre Berger, managing director of the American Jewish Committee in Berlin, agreed that anti-Semitism is "much more widely spread and expressed now than in past years."

She added that the Mideast standoff is "the excuse that is used. It's allowing people to express feelings that are already there."

The most prominent recent case of alleged anti-Semitism occurred on Oct. 3 when Martin Hohmann, an obscure Christian Democratic member of parliament, was forced to resign after he compared Jewish participation in the Russian Revolution with atrocities committed by the Nazis.

In his speech in Fulda, titled "Justice for Germany," Hohmann said Germans were tired of being depicted as the 20th century's main bogeymen and that although Jews are always seen as victims, they, too, have "black marks" in their history. He said that in some cases -- such as in the 1917 Bolshevik takeover -- they could be seen as Taetervolk, a race of perpetrators.

After hearing of the speech, Gen. Reinhard Guenzel, a revered commander of the elite KSK army division, wrote Hohmann a letter extolling his "courage" and saying, "You can be sure that you are doubtless speaking for the majority of our nation."

Even after the Jewish community and Israeli Embassy later expressed outrage, the Christian Democrats, the major opposition party, gave Hohmann a chance to apologize. He refused, and it took the party a week to decide to force him out. Guenzel was immediately fired by the defense ministry.

Other recent cases involved:

-- Juergen Mollemann, a leader of the liberal Free Democratic Party, who was expelled from the party and then died in a suspicious jump from a plane after trying to win votes in November's election by distributing anti-Israel flyers;

-- Jamal Karsli, a Syrian-born member of the Greens and later the Free Democrats, who was expelled in May 2002 because of inflammatory statements comparing Israelis to Nazis and accusations of a "Jewish lobby" at work;

-- Novelist Martin Walser, whose book "Death of a Critic" was described as a "document of hate" by literary critics in its blatant attack on a prominent Jewish media commentator. Walser is also infamous for calling the Auschwitz death camp Moralkeule (a moral club) against Germans.

The three authors of "Operation 911," the book alleging an Israeli role in the 2001 events, are not far-right hotheads but rather a former editor at the respected Berlin daily Die Tageszeitung; a prominent Social Democrat and ex-member of the lower house; and a long-time journalist for the nationalWDR broadcast network.

Equally disturbing, an American Jewish Committee survey commissioned last year found that 52 percent of Germans believe Jews are exploiting the memory of the Holocaust for their own purposes, and 59 percent agreed with the statement that "many people in Germany are afraid to express their true feelings about Jews."

France -- home to 600,000 Jews, the largest community in Europe -- has seen a sharp spike in anti-Jewish incidents over the past three years. Most of the beatings, firebombed synagogues and desecrated cemeteries are blamed on Muslim immigrants.

In 2002, 60 percent of the violent incidents reported to France's human rights commission were directed at Jews, some of whom have subsequently emigrated to Israel.

"Jews are questioning whether they can continue living in France," Nissim Zvili, Israel's ambassador to France, said in a recent interview. "They're particularly worried about the apparent indifference of French society (to the new) anti-Semitism."

The government is frequently critical of Israel, and some suggest that the pro-Palestinian sympathies of French reporters and leftist politicians thinly disguise anti-Jewish sentiments.

"Many intellectuals will say they are anti-Israel or anti-Zionist -- not anti-Semitic," said Emmanuel Weintraub, a senior member of the Representative Council of Jews. "That's a semantic swindle."

But prominent Jewish historian and writer Esther Benbassa does not believe most French intellectuals are anti-Semitic.

"There is a wave of anti-Semitism among France's ethnic North African population, but not a single real intellectual or politician has made a remark that can be suspected of being anti-Semitic," said Benbassa, chair of the Sorbonne's history department. "On the contrary ... in political circles there is significant support for Jews."

Indeed, French authorities have won kudos for their new get-tough approach toward anti-Jewish actions, after years of being skewered for half measures.

The center-right government of President Jacques Chirac, who declared a "zero tolerance" policy against anti-Semitism and racism, asked Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin to head a special commission to tackle the problem. New plans include screening broadcasts for hate remarks and drafting pamphlets on how to combat anti-Semitism in schools.

After taking those steps, Chirac declared, "When a Jew is attacked in France, it is an attack on the whole of France."
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Veronique Mistiaen reported from London, Jody K. Biehl from Berlin and Elizabeth Bryant from Paris.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/12/14/ANTISEMITISM.TMP
 

Dari

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The EU is a god-less, anti-nationalist, suprantional creature. It has more in common with the Soviet Union than democratic Europe. It is the direct opposite of the United States of America and Israel.

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Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Dari
The EU is a god-less, anti-nationalist, suprantional creature. It has more in common with the Soviet Union than democratic Europe. It is the direct opposite of the United States of America and Israel.

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Dari, you really have Europe issues don't you?
 

peonyu

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The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.
 

peonyu

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.


Racism from the jews though ?
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: peonyu
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.


Racism from the jews though ?

I guess lol :) But especially from the natives, too.
 

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Originally posted by: peonyu
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.


Racism from the jews though ?

Oh yeah I forgot Jews are the choosen people and they are better then us goys.
 

peonyu

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Jews make up less than 1% population of the countries that have anti-semitism so i dont think jews are oppressing anyone. They dont have the numbers or the power to, and if they did have the power then I can guarantee that you wouldnt have muslims immigrating to the countries in the first place, since afterall why would Jews invite trouble into the countries they rule.
 

JackStorm

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Meh...the whole world reaks of racism. I've seen just as many jews and blacks who are racists, as I've seen whites and muslims who are. Racism isn't confined within any one race or religion. No sence in pointing fingers at any one group of people and say they are any more or less racist than another.

The sooner people realize that no one person or group of people is/are better than another, the better.
 

Insane3D

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The sooner people realize that no one person or group of people is/are better than another, the better.

Agreed. I never understood why we don't like people because of where they are from or what color their skin is...the whole thing seems shallow and pointless.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Dari
The EU is a god-less, anti-nationalist, suprantional creature. It has more in common with the Soviet Union than democratic Europe. It is the direct opposite of the United States of America and Israel.

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And that's a bad thing?
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Dari
The EU is a god-less, anti-nationalist, suprantional creature. It has more in common with the Soviet Union than democratic Europe. It is the direct opposite of the United States of America and Israel.

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And that's a bad thing?

You forget the streets smelling of open a*s...this is Dari we are talking to....heh. :D
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.

And America isn't?
 

sandorski

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Criticism = Racism?

Look, certainly Europe needs to keep in mind its' past and how Hatred can lead to Travesty, but if anyone suggests they can't criticize Israeli actions/policy they are being ridiculous. Does Israel get a Free Pass?
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: peonyu
The reason why anti-semitism is increasing is because of the large number of Muslim immigrants who bring thier anti-jew/israel hatred with them, its nice how the article seems to make light of that.

There's a lot of racist sentiment against them, too. Europe is a little bit racist.

And America isn't?

It is somewhat, I don't think it's as bad. I think the US and probably Canada are unique in the world. You can immigrate over and you're far more accepted. I know many immigrants that came to the US and say the attitudes and environments here are a lot better than Europe where they were treated like third-class citizens. These people are educated professionals, professors, etc.
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Criticism = Racism?

Look, certainly Europe needs to keep in mind its' past and how Hatred can lead to Travesty, but if anyone suggests they can't criticize Israeli actions/policy they are being ridiculous. Does Israel get a Free Pass?

Let me know when hating Jews (and I'm not saying they do) is racist.

EDIT: meant to say 'not'
 
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You know, Racism is SO damn dumb I don't even like to talk about it. "My race is better than yours is!" I mean for freakin' heck's sake, how can you have *pride* in something that happened to you as a freaking accident? You didn't CHOOSE to be race A, B, or C! You were just *born* that way! Who cares?

Personally, I think the only valid pride comes from personnal value and virtue. Sorry, racists, you're a waste of time.

Jason
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: ELP
Originally posted by: sandorski
Criticism = Racism?

Look, certainly Europe needs to keep in mind its' past and how Hatred can lead to Travesty, but if anyone suggests they can't criticize Israeli actions/policy they are being ridiculous. Does Israel get a Free Pass?

Let me know when hating Jews (and I'm saying they do) is racist.

What proves to you that they hate?

I see criticism, but not hate. Certainly there are some Europeans who Hate Jews, but there are some Americans who do the same.
 

Lonyo

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It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of Jews, if anyone goes against them, the US can always "intervene".

I made a conscious decision yesterday NOT to buy a product from Israel, and instead got the same thing (sweetcorn) from Greece.
 

Czar

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The Israel/Palestinian conflict gets alot of air time on the news in Europe, thats why so many people oppose Israel, there are then always minor groups that oppose jews in general, but remember this is about Israel, not Jews for the most part.
 

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The legitimate criticism of Israel-the Sharon government in particular-gives "permission" to those who have a deep seated hatred of Jews or anything foreign to speak and act in abominable ways. Just like the Fox Cartoon Network's constant attacks on France enable Dari to act out his little right wing fantasy. :)

The problem with anti-semitism-aside from its affects on the intended targets-is it spreads a culture of fear and loathing of anyone who is different. Anti-semitism is merely one head of the Hydra of intolerance and needs to be cut off as Chirac is trying to do. Otherwise, the bloody thing just keeps growing and you have severe social problems.

-Robert
 

boran

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yes, I have nothing against jews, but israels policy is "whenever there is some criticism on us we shout ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-SEMITISM"

like their being jews has anything to do with our opinion about them.

the general opinion here is that israel is a threat for peace, just because they dont really take actions getting towards peace, they build a wall okay, and I considder that quite a smart move, if they can build their wall and stay on their side instead of raiding refugee camps i'd be somewhat less inclined to say they're causing their own problem.

because as I stated before, with every terrorist they kill some unlucky bystander happens to get killed to, and the family of that unlucky bystander is (as can be understood) not very happy, and when you're not very happy you do stuipid things, like become a terrorist, it's a vicous cirkle.

the wall, while controversial might put an end to this cirkle if done correctly (meaning no raids into palestine territory, terrorists is a problem that blows itself up (pun intended) and without raids it should decrease, but israel needs to get some negotiating or communication done, because the average palestine thinks he's getting robbed of his land (wether or not this is the case is a moot point, historically speaking both have rights to the land which under dispute)

and israel cannot ask europe to ban the results of an opinion poll on grounds of anti-semitism. there was nothing that even reeked on anti semitism, besides the fact maybe that israel is a country full of jews.. but if they were a country full of christians doing the same thing, i'd have to think we would think the same. (christianity is allmost dead here, thank god (pun, once more, intended ;))
 

Miramonti

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A significant amount of israelis also are currently opposed to their own country's political policies.

I suppose that makes many jews anti-semites as well.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: jjsole
A significant amount of israelis also are currently opposed to their own country's political policies.

I suppose that makes many jews anti-semites as well.

It does if you say criticism of the Israeli government is anti-semitism.