The New 65

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yeah but it's unlikely that MOST move into management positions. Unskilled and semi-skilled labor isn't exactly a highway to upward mobility.

Most likely move into other related positions.

Yeah, a ditch digger can become a ditch diggers helper. Maybe he can keep their shovels sharp for them. That's funny.

The Repugs are the first ones to stand up and defend the free enterprise system, where we all compete. Now you act as if employers are going to provide jobs to people who can no longer compete. It ain't gonna happen and you know it, Greenspan knows it, and anyone with any common sense knows it.

After Bush lied to us about WMD's, he can't be trusted with making changes to SS retirement. Maybe he should have a neutral party do a study of possible changes. How about his buddy and contributer Ken Lay. We all know what a helluva job he did at Enron.

Bottom line, some changes are needed in SS, but Bush just can't be trusted to do it and everyone knows it. The changes will just have to wait until the country has a leader they can TRUST, not somebody who has surrounded himself with liars.

And what, you expect that Bush is going to be the one to sit down and author the specifics of the bill? Get real, man. No question that Bush is an imbecile, but this constant raving against anything that he comes within 100 yards of is even more imbecilic than Bush himself, and that's saying quite a lot!

Jason

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


Despite what Greenspan is trying to infer, I know better.

Yeah, that Alan Greenspan...such a moron, ain't he?

:roll:

Jason

It takes one to know one, right!

In case you didn't notice, I was being Facetious. Greenspan is one of very few legitimate GENIUSES living today. Clearly you aren't included in that group (nor, for that matter, is anyone on this board...)

Jason

ROFLMAO. In case you didn't notice.....LOL.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yeah but it's unlikely that MOST move into management positions. Unskilled and semi-skilled labor isn't exactly a highway to upward mobility.

Most likely move into other related positions.

Yeah, a ditch digger can become a ditch diggers helper. Maybe he can keep their shovels sharp for them. That's funny.

The Repugs are the first ones to stand up and defend the free enterprise system, where we all compete. Now you act as if employers are going to provide jobs to people who can no longer compete. It ain't gonna happen and you know it, Greenspan knows it, and anyone with any common sense knows it.

After Bush lied to us about WMD's, he can't be trusted with making changes to SS retirement. Maybe he should have a neutral party do a study of possible changes. How about his buddy and contributer Ken Lay. We all know what a helluva job he did at Enron.

Bottom line, some changes are needed in SS, but Bush just can't be trusted to do it and everyone knows it. The changes will just have to wait until the country has a leader they can TRUST, not somebody who has surrounded himself with liars.

So basically you're saying we'll NEVER get Social Security reform. The day that a COMPLETELY honest politician gets elected to office is the day the world disappears in a whisp of smoke.

We'll NEVER get a 100% honest and upfront politician for president, *especially* if we keep looking to the Republicans and Democrats to provide it to us. WHen we're faced with candidates who (right or wrong) present their case to us with total candor, what do we do? We ignore them and vote in DROVES for the two biggest liars and imbeciles we can find, who are always found in the Democratic and Republican parties.

Jason

 

[1EZduzit]

All leaders lie. Some more then others and about different things. I think the leader we currently have is the biggest liar of them all. I can't/won't trust Bush to be fair to ALL the people and to makes any significant changes is SS we need a trusted/true leader.

I think GWB has bit off more then he can chew (like he did in Iraq) and this time he's going to choke on it.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yeah but it's unlikely that MOST move into management positions. Unskilled and semi-skilled labor isn't exactly a highway to upward mobility.

Most likely move into other related positions.

Yeah, a ditch digger can become a ditch diggers helper. Maybe he can keep their shovels sharp for them. That's funny.

Actually your myopic view is quite funny. Very few ditch diggers still use a shovel. Most ditch diggers operate machery to dig ditches. At what point does one become to old to operate a backhoe or a ditchwitch?

You also neglect that and aged, yet expericed ditch digger could design ditches,manage ditch digging, sell ditchs, sell ditch digging equipment or even start their own ditch digging company.



The Repugs are the first ones to stand up and defend the free enterprise system, where we all compete. Now you act as if employers are going to provide jobs to people who can no longer compete. It ain't gonna happen and you know it, Greenspan knows it, and anyone with any common sense knows it.

so why does greenspan support private accounts for SS?



Bottom line, some changes are needed in SS, but Bush just can't be trusted to do it and everyone knows it. The changes will just have to wait until the country has a leader they can TRUST, not somebody who has surrounded himself with liars.

I guess that is why he asked congress to come up with a proposal....

 

[1EZduzit]

Yeah, right. the experienced ditch diggers can all design ditches and manage other ditch diggers. Hell, why don't they design, manufacture, and sell their own ditch digging machines? There is a reason they were ditch diggers in the first place, most of them weren't smart enough to rise above their current position.

You can only get so much water out of a well. Some wells pump 5 gal/minute and some pump 50 gal/minute. People are like that also. The new Repugs lack of empathy for those less fortunate then themselves is why I dislike them so much. Instead of counting their blessings, they concentrate on increasing their advantages at the expense of others.

When is enough enough for these kinds of people? I really like your point about Greenspan supporting privatization. LMAO, so what?? You hold that up as if it is some kind of proof, like Greenspan is infailable or something? He is just a person, like everyone else.

I'm reminded of a quote from Ernest Hemmingway, it goes something like this:

"Rich people are different then everyone else........they have more money."

That doesn't mean they are always right or that their plan is the best for the country.