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The neocons? delusions

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http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/26/david-corn.php

"The neocons? aspirations ? and illusions (or delusions) ? were placed on display recently, when Thomas Donnelly, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (a.k.a. Neocon Central Command), presented a paper at a conference titled, without irony, ?Winning Iraq.? Donnelly used to be director of strategic communications at Lockheed Martin and the number two at the Project for the New American Century, a neocon outfit overseen by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, which was urging Washington to invade Iraq for years before 9/11.

With this paper, Donnelly revealed that neocons are watching the war on a cable channel that the rest of us don?t get. ?The pendulum inside Iraq is . . . swinging slowly and painfully but clearly in an American direction,? he writes. He notes that ?the insurgents have failed in their effort to attack the essential center of gravity, the will of the American people. President Bush, his administration and the American people as a whole have remained fundamentally unshaken in their commitment to complete the victory in Iraq, despite the casualties and the cost.? Yet polls show only about a third of Americans approve of Bush?s handling of the war, and in some surveys half say the war wasn?t worth it. ?The resistance has had little to show for months of violence,? Donnelly argues. ?The ?sea? of the Iraqi people is drying up for the insurgents, and the effort to spark a civil war has failed.? But the last Gallup Poll taken in Iraq found that 57 percent of the respondents want the United States to leave immediately. Hearts and minds ? as the cliché goes ? are not being won in either Iraq or the United States.

But Donnelly and stay-the-course neocons are not detached from reality only in their assessment of the ongoing situation. They are out of touch in their prescription for the future, which essentially amounts to this: Onward!"
 
Like most people, they only hear what they want to hear. The LIBERAL MEDIA is making all of this "insurgency" stuff up. They are UN-AMERICAN and want to see us fail!!!
 
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Like most people, they only hear what they want to hear. The LIBERAL MEDIA is making all of this "insurgency" stuff up. They are UN-AMERICAN and want to see us fail!!!

Read "The Republican Noise Machine : Right-Wing Media and How It Corrupts Democracy" by David Brock. He is a former conservative character hitman who developed a conscience. Anyway he essentially says there is no "liberal media" but there is a conservative media that essentially invented the term.

Ya know I always did wonder how during the Richard Clarke scandal, Limbaugh, Hannity, all of conservative radio and television repeated the EXACT talking points. I mean literally word for word.
 
Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Like most people, they only hear what they want to hear. The LIBERAL MEDIA is making all of this "insurgency" stuff up. They are UN-AMERICAN and want to see us fail!!!

Read "The Republican Noise Machine : Right-Wing Media and How It Corrupts Democracy" by David Brock. He is a former conservative character hitman who developed a conscience. Anyway he essentially says there is no "liberal media" but there is a conservative media that essentially invented the term.

Ya know I always did wonder how during the Richard Clarke scandal, Limbaugh, Hannity, all of conservative radio and television repeated the EXACT talking points. I mean literally word for word.


You didn't know robotics had advanced so far? All those conservative radio and TV show hosts are really droids. The central control post is Karl Rove's office. 😀 Rove is doing this on the cheap and can't afford different scripts for each host.

I am wondering about others. Have you ever noticed how jerky Bush's words and facial expressions are when he gives speeches?:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Like most people, they only hear what they want to hear. The LIBERAL MEDIA is making all of this "insurgency" stuff up. They are UN-AMERICAN and want to see us fail!!!

That's exactly how I feel too. Liberal Media wants a failure in Iraq. I don't see them as patriots either. :beer:
 
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Like most people, they only hear what they want to hear. The LIBERAL MEDIA is making all of this "insurgency" stuff up. They are UN-AMERICAN and want to see us fail!!!

That's exactly how I feel too. Liberal Media wants a failure in Iraq.
No, the "liberal" media want the failed administration to acknowledge they fvcked up and say, "Hey, we goofed. Now we're going to set it straight." I don't see that happening. The neocons' pride will be their fall.


I don't see them as patriots either. :beer:
You don't see *anything*.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
It's like a virus. It infects the brain and shuts down any logical thought process.

Typical Conjur/Neolib response, someone disagrees with me therefor they are idiots/morons/stupid.

Yawn..
 
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
It's like a virus. It infects the brain and shuts down any logical thought process.

Typical Conjur/Neolib response, someone disagrees with me therefor they are idiots/morons/stupid.

Yawn..

You are reversing cause and effect.
 
Is there still a general feeling among consertives that there are no liberals in the army, navy or marines because they (the liberals) are all trators?

Bleep
 
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
It's like a virus. It infects the brain and shuts down any logical thought process.

Typical Conjur/Neolib response, someone disagrees with me therefor they are idiots/morons/stupid.

Yawn..

Um, no.

That's the method of the neoconservative:
Follow the vision.
Dissuade debate.
Surround yourself with yes-men.


That's happened time and time again in this administration. What's sad is that you don't understand that. There are loads of proof to that fact.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
It's like a virus. It infects the brain and shuts down any logical thought process.

Typical Conjur/Neolib response, someone disagrees with me therefor they are idiots/morons/stupid.

Yawn..

Um, no.

That's the method of the neoconservative:
Follow the vision.
Dissuade debate.
Surround yourself with yes-men.


That's happened time and time again in this administration. What's sad is that you don't understand that. There are loads of proof to that fact.

Now you just have to proove that there is not proof to contradict your proof and you're set to debate a Neo-Con artist.
 
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