The neo-cons on this board just don't get it with regards to spain

[Phokus]

You do NOT reward the party that went to war against 90% of the population's wishes and COVERED UP A NATIONAL TRAGEDY AND TRIED TO USE IT FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

Yeah it SUCKS that it gives the appearance of appeasement, but voting for the party that just F***ED your fellow countrymen and tried to USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE is an even WORSE option. All you do is tell the government that being corrupt is a GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT COSTS LIVES OF YOUR OWN COUNTRYMEN.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

you don't get that cussing and ALL CAPS isn't a good way to get your point across.

edit: for those who disagree with the above view:

No matter how Spain's current government fumbled the ball on this one, the terrorists still got done what they wanted.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

 

[nutxo]

Screw Spain, I wouldnt waste my spit on the socialist cowards. I honestly think the socialists were in cahouts with Al Queda.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

Yup, as usually, you address the points made, Cad.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Originally posted by: nutxo
Screw Spain, I wouldnt waste my spit on the socialist cowards. I honestly think the socialists were in cahouts with Al Queda.

Then Bush would be obviously in Cahoots with Al Qaeda since he gained the most popularity since the attacks. It's obviously a ploy!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

Yup, as usually, you address the points made, Cad.

I've address your drivel and it's kin in the MANY OTHER THREADS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SPAIN THING. Got it?

This thread like the many other ones should be locked as a repost.

CkG

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

Yup, as usually, you address the points made, Cad.

I've address your drivel and it's kin in the MANY OTHER THREADS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SPAIN THING. Got it?

This thread like the many other ones should be locked as a repost.

CkG

Someone seems a little antsy. Don't have a heart attack old boy.

Zephyr

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

Yup, as usually, you address the points made, Cad.

I've address your drivel and it's kin in the MANY OTHER THREADS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SPAIN THING. Got it?

This thread like the many other ones should be locked as a repost.

CkG

Someone seems a little antsy. Don't have a heart attack old boy.

Zephyr

Seems you missed the opening rant I was copying the style of

CkG

 

[Ornery]

Rewarding Terror in Spain

• What will the rest of Europe do? For politicians in countries like Italy, with both strong anti-American movements and troops in Iraq, the risks are obvious. Any politician who invokes Madrid to demand a withdrawal from Iraq will be inviting terrorist attacks to prove his point. What's more, it's unlikely that this strategy will work politically. The Spanish literally had no time to reflect between the Madrid bombings and the election. With more time, other nations are more likely to react as democracies usually do: by rejecting terrorists and their deluded causes.

Terror Wins in Spain, Left Breathes Sigh of Relief

• The left themselves are trying to say that there was no alliance between Saddam Hussein and bin Laden, correct? "Bush just made that up, like he lies about everything else!" they say. Well, okay then. Then this can't have anything to do with Iraq, because Al-Qaeda wasn't in Iraq. Al-Qaeda doesn't care what we're doing in Iraq. Al-Qaeda couldn't give diddlysquat that we're in Iraq. So how can this be related to Iraq? Anyway, my friends, one thing not to lose sight of is that Bush has stood firm despite the political hits, despite the New York Times, despite the bad news focus, despite this Kerry clown who's going to implode, espite the polls, he's standing firm. Talkers talk, but leaders lead. Bush is leading on this issue.

Spain Decides to Run Away

• The al Qaeda dispatch taunted the premier of Spain whose party has been defeated. ?Aznar, where is America? Who will protect you, Britain, Japan, Italy and others from us??

Dutch to keep troops in Iraq despite Spain blasts

• The Dutch government said on Monday it would not be cowed by last week's bombings in Madrid into withdrawing its troops from Iraq and said the attacks would not affect deliberations on extending their mandate beyond July.
  
  "It would be unacceptable if we would be guided in this decision by these horrible terrorist attacks," said Camiel Eurlings, foreign affairs spokesman for the centre-right Christian Democrats (CDA), who rule in a three-party coalition.

Mr Zapatero was - until Thursday's bombings - considered an outsider for Spain's top job.

• Socialists won 42% of the vote, while the centre-right Popular Party won 38%.
  
  ...the late swing to the Socialists also raises one disturbing thought - if al-Qaeda was responsible for Thursday's attacks, it appears to have had significant influence in changing the government of a leading Western democracy.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

These readings of the conservative U.S. media regarding the elections in Spain, as posted by Ornery, remind me of the way in which the West - and the U.S. especially - were portrayed in the Soviet media during the `70s and the `80s... the facts count less, what matters is the interpretation.

Unless anyone here REALLY knows Spanish politics OR if there are any Spaniards on this board, who can give a correct interpretation, rather than guesses, these rants are just useless drivel, which only serves to reinforce each side`s beliefs.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
These readings of the conservative U.S. media regarding the elections in Spain, as posted by Ornery, remind me of the way in which the West - and the U.S. especially - were portrayed in the Soviet media during the `70s and the `80s... the facts count less, what matters is the interpretation.

Unless anyone here REALLY knows Spanish politics OR if there are any Spaniards on this board, who can give a correct interpretation, rather than guesses, these rants are just useless drivel, which only serves to reinforce each side`s beliefs.

I think what really counts here is not the Spanish interpretation of the above events but rather how does Al-Qaeda interpret the events?

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Originally posted by: Phokus
You do NOT reward the party that went to war against 90% of the population's wishes and COVERED UP A NATIONAL TRAGEDY AND TRIED TO USE IT FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

Yeah it SUCKS that it gives the appearance of appeasement, but voting for the party that just F***ED your fellow countrymen and tried to USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE is an even WORSE option. All you do is tell the government that being corrupt is a GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT COSTS LIVES OF YOUR OWN COUNTRYMEN.

The Liberitarians on this board just don't get it with regards to reposts

You do NOT reward the poster that went against 90% of the forum members and IGNORED ALL THE EXISTING THREADS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT FOR HIS OWN THREAD'S GAIN.

Yeah it SUCKS having to respond to an already existing thread, but responding to a repost that F***ED your fellow members ongoing discussions and tried to USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE is an even WORSE option. All you do is tell the administrators that reposting is a GOOD WAY TO START DISCUSSIONS, EVEN IF IT COSTS BANDWIDTH FOR YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS.

*Slams door*

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: HelloDeli

Originally posted by: Phokus
You do NOT reward the party that went to war against 90% of the population's wishes and COVERED UP A NATIONAL TRAGEDY AND TRIED TO USE IT FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

Yeah it SUCKS that it gives the appearance of appeasement, but voting for the party that just F***ED your fellow countrymen and tried to USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE is an even WORSE option. All you do is tell the government that being corrupt is a GOOD WAY TO DO BUSINESS, EVEN IF IT COSTS LIVES OF YOUR OWN COUNTRYMEN.

The Liberitarians on this board just don't get it with regards to reposts

You do NOT reward the poster that went against 90% of the forum members and IGNORED ALL THE EXISTING THREADS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT FOR HIS OWN THREAD'S GAIN.

Yeah it SUCKS having to respond to an already existing thread, but responding to a repost that F***ED your fellow members ongoing discussions and tried to USE IT FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE is an even WORSE option. All you do is tell the administrators that reposting is a GOOD WAY TO START DISCUSSIONS, EVEN IF IT COSTS BANDWIDTH FOR YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS.

*Slams door*

Buahahahah!!!!

:beer::beer:

CkG

 

[Corn]

I think what really counts here is not the Spanish interpretation of the above events but rather how does Al-Qaeda interpret the events?

Unfortunately, the free thinkers are too busy freeing their minds to think to comprehend this most eloquently stated truth.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Corn

I think what really counts here is not the Spanish interpretation of the above events but rather how does Al-Qaeda interpret the events?

Unfortunately, the free thinkers are too busy freeing their minds to think to comprehend this most eloquently stated truth.

True true.

CkG

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

This is a seriously ignorant and disrespectful statement.

Spain has just had a terrorist attack in which hundreds have been killed and over a thousand people have been injured following their support for America. This is their 9/11, and their losses, while smaller in number, are no less tragic. I think if we go back in time and look at your posts after 9/11, you may have had a few more than 12 posts on the topic. And I certainly don't think anyone would have ever been ignorant enough to post a "Yippie - another 9/11 thread" - do you?????

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Napalm

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

This is a seriously ignorant and disrespectful statement.

Spain has just had a terrorist attack in which hundreds have been killed and over a thousand people have been injured following their support for America. This is their 9/11, and their losses, while smaller in number, are no less tragic. I think if we go back in time and look at your posts after 9/11, you may have had a few more than 12 posts on the topic. And I certainly don't think anyone would have ever been ignorant enough to post a "Yippie - another 9/11 thread" - do you?????

yeah - it was really a statement about Spain

The troll that started this thread could have easily made his comments about "neo-cons" in one of the other threads but thought he was special so he'd start ANOTHER one especially to bash "neo-cons".

CkG

 

[AnitaPeterson]

I think what really counts here is not the Spanish interpretation of the above events but rather how does Al-Qaeda interpret the events?

Good thing you made that a question, not a statement.

Until I see al-Qaeda celebrating, or hear Osama praising the new Spanish government in his next audio tape, I think nobody should make any such speculations.

And by the way, why should it make any difference for al-Qaeda if the Spaniards are in Irak or not. As far as I can see, al-Qaida is trying to antagonize the entire West against Islam... so Zapatero`s decision may actually be detrimental for them.

And by the way, - and we`re just speaking hypothetically here - the U.S. has both the means and the interest to push Europe into a state of chaos and anti-Muslim sentiment... maybe this was a U.S. plot, with al-Qaeda as scapegoats?

 

[Napalm]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Napalm

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

This is a seriously ignorant and disrespectful statement.

Spain has just had a terrorist attack in which hundreds have been killed and over a thousand people have been injured following their support for America. This is their 9/11, and their losses, while smaller in number, are no less tragic. I think if we go back in time and look at your posts after 9/11, you may have had a few more than 12 posts on the topic. And I certainly don't think anyone would have ever been ignorant enough to post a "Yippie - another 9/11 thread" - do you?????

yeah - it was really a statement about Spain

The troll that started this thread could have easily made his comments about "neo-cons" in one of the other threads but thought he was special so he'd start ANOTHER one especially to bash "neo-cons".

CkG

I find it hard to understand how Americans can be anything other than respectful to the Spanish. They supported you in Afghanistan and Iraq, they are a democratic nation that has just followed the will of its people, and like you, they have suffered a horrid attack on their own soil.

You should be asking how Bush is going to work with them to fight terrorism (i.e., returning the favour), not taking a crap on them for who they have elected and for deciding to pull their troops from that hell hole, Iraq. Don't you think?

 

[sandorski]

The previous Spanish government is as much to blame here as anyone else. They put themselves in a precarious position, going against the will of the people, lying about the reasons and asking for trust, then they lied again concerning the attack and who was responsible. They could have gotten away with some of it, but when the crunch came the foundation of the previous government crumbled from underneath them. Building yourself on a foundation of lies inevitably brings disaster, lies are always found out.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Oh boy - another Spain thread. Yippie - now we have like 12 of them.

CkG

Yup, as usually, you address the points made, Cad.

I've address your drivel and it's kin in the MANY OTHER THREADS ABOUT THIS WHOLE SPAIN THING. Got it?

This thread like the many other ones should be locked as a repost.

CkG

Awwwww, Lead P&N NeoCon panties in a bunch because he lost a whole Country of NeoCons, Awwwwww.

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

And by the way, - and we`re just speaking hypothetically here - the U.S. has both the means and the interest to push Europe into a state of chaos and anti-Muslim sentiment... maybe this was a U.S. plot, with al-Qaeda as scapegoats?

Because the resulting damage to U.S. - European relations would be catastrophic. Why would the United States take such risk? No, sorry, although we may bomb the hell out of Jihad screaming yardapes, we don't intentionally harm innocents, particularly when they are allied with us.

[you may now rejoin your regularly scheduled USA bashing or absurd conspiracy theory already in progress]

 

[Ornery]

"Until I see al-Qaeda celebrating, or hear Osama praising the new Spanish government in his next audio tape, I think nobody should make any such speculations. "

The al Qaeda dispatch taunted the premier of Spain whose party has been defeated. ?Aznar, where is America? Who will protect you, Britain, Japan, Italy and others from us??

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

And by the way, - and we`re just speaking hypothetically here - the U.S. has both the means and the interest to push Europe into a state of chaos and anti-Muslim sentiment... maybe this was a U.S. plot, with al-Qaeda as scapegoats?

Because the resulting damage to U.S. - European relations would be catastrophic. Why would the United States take such risk? No, sorry, although we may bomb the hell out of Jihad screaming yardapes, we don't intentionally harm innocents, particularly when they are allied with us.

[you may now rejoin your regularly scheduled USA bashing or absurd conspiracy theory already in progress]

Yardape?? WTF is a Yardape? LOL