spanky
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whats with kobe throwing elbows left and right? i thought it was so weak that after the game was well decided, kobe then goes over to bibby and apologizes and ask him if he's ok. if he really gave a crap, he should've been right there on the spot. he already got the call on that play. not that it means anything, but i just lost all respect for him. i haven't seen the elbow to christie though. was it just as dirty?
Ok, if they called the foul on Kobe against Bibby the entire Staples Center would have been in an uproar and there would have been massive chaos. Lakers might have lost the game as well. I agree that it is clearly a foul on Kobe, but the ref. might have thought Bibby was holding Kobe and that Kobe was trying to get free and accidentally hit him in the face with an elbow trying to get through. But, that's the nature of the game, sometimes you get calls and sometimes you don't.
Reffing in this series is by far the worse. Even the players look dumbfounded when there are HARD fouls and no calls. It is pretty ugly, and what's even worse is that the refs. are looking right at the players.
Now, onto Sacramento. Chris Webber is the biggest whining pice of crap to ever grace the NBA. I am glad that they finally gave him the technical he deserved. He complains after every call, throws a fit, and tries to start fights all the time. Heck, every time I see his face it looks like he is about to cry. And Vlade "Floppy" Divac, you are not the most badass player in the NBA. You will lose in a fight with most guys your size in the NBA. Don't try and start stuff with every player that bumps into you. The only players I have respect for are Doug Christie and Mike Bibby. Notice how Bibby is never complaining. He is just getting raped out there and it disgusts me that they aren't calling these fouls, and this is coming from a hardcore Laker fan. I like Bibby and think he'll be one of the best point guards in the NBA (if he isn't already).
Reffing in this series is by far the worse. Even the players look dumbfounded when there are HARD fouls and no calls. It is pretty ugly, and what's even worse is that the refs. are looking right at the players.
Now, onto Sacramento. Chris Webber is the biggest whining pice of crap to ever grace the NBA. I am glad that they finally gave him the technical he deserved. He complains after every call, throws a fit, and tries to start fights all the time. Heck, every time I see his face it looks like he is about to cry. And Vlade "Floppy" Divac, you are not the most badass player in the NBA. You will lose in a fight with most guys your size in the NBA. Don't try and start stuff with every player that bumps into you. The only players I have respect for are Doug Christie and Mike Bibby. Notice how Bibby is never complaining. He is just getting raped out there and it disgusts me that they aren't calling these fouls, and this is coming from a hardcore Laker fan. I like Bibby and think he'll be one of the best point guards in the NBA (if he isn't already).
its funny how after the game Shaq was saying "i've never complained about the officiating and how they do their job etc etc." when after game 2 he was pretty vocal about his feelings about the fouls against him. he must have forgotten in the past week or so.
One word to describe you.....IDIOT.
- Yeah thats impartial alright....
-Do I hear you complain about the fouls that aren't called....and yes there are many!!!
-Umm I think if bibby wasn't holding Kobe, he wouldn't have fallen....the hit was obviously a foul-BUT YOU ONLY NOTICED IT BECAUSE OF SLOW MOTION REPLAY!!!
Shaq gets many non-calls and look at what happened in game 5......kobe's shirt was completely pulled off and fisher was on the ground on the play before that......its the way the game is played.....live with it or DONT WATCH!!!
Go away, please! Shaq and Kobe (Kobe less so) probably complain the least about calls. Have you even watched a single game in the Kings-Lakers series?
I thought of these conspiracies as well...
You know, more games in playoff = more money generated, especially if you have home adv all the way.
The conspiracies all gone when Laker's won their championship 17-1 last year.
I have no comment on the officiating.
As far as I know, the surrounding (fans in the building) does effect the refs ability to officiate. Try to officiate in a game, you'll understand that sometimes it is hard to see whether it's a foul or not, as everything came in split second. Not only see the act, sometimes you can even get astonished with a player superb move.
You know, more games in playoff = more money generated, especially if you have home adv all the way.
The conspiracies all gone when Laker's won their championship 17-1 last year.
I have no comment on the officiating.
As far as I know, the surrounding (fans in the building) does effect the refs ability to officiate. Try to officiate in a game, you'll understand that sometimes it is hard to see whether it's a foul or not, as everything came in split second. Not only see the act, sometimes you can even get astonished with a player superb move.
Originally posted by: AGodspeed
Go away, please! Shaq and Kobe (Kobe less so) probably complain the least about calls. Have you even watched a single game in the Kings-Lakers series?
you're kidding right?
[cry]the only way they can win starts with a c and ends with a t[/cry]
I'm not into the whole conspiracy theory but I must say that NBA officals are at the bottom of the barrel.
NBA- Traveling, palming the ball (Iversons crossover or all crossovers to be specific) , charging/blocking (What is charging one time is called blocking later) and the stars get most of the calls
MLB -Some pitchers/hitters get benefit of larger/smaller strike zone
NFL- Holding calls (holding could be called on almost any given play and sometimes the timing is suspect)
NHL -Clutching/grabbing also gets called randomly
All sports officials have their problems just seems the stars in the NBA have such a big advantage over Joe 6th man
I heard the announcer say that Lakers didn't even know what was going on. That's probably why Kobe took so long to apologize.
Webber got a technical foul because he pushed Kobe in the back but kobe just walked away.
Divac and George got a double technical because when george shoved divac, divac turned around and went back to him instead of walking away like kobe did.
Lakers got jobbed in game 5..Kings got jobbed in game 6...turn around is fair play.
But the officiating has been very inconsistent. Ticky tack fouls are called whenever they feel like it yet blatant fouls go unnoticed.
As for the Kobe elbowing Bibby..I don't think you can wrap your arms around a player, no matter if he is or is not moving.
In general, the Kings have shot more freethrows than the Lakers in this series so Kings fans have no reason to gripe. In fact, up to game 6, the Kings had outshot the Lakers 100-70 (not accurate, but close) from the FF line.
30 shot difference..now who is complaining about the officiating?
But the officiating has been very inconsistent. Ticky tack fouls are called whenever they feel like it yet blatant fouls go unnoticed.
As for the Kobe elbowing Bibby..I don't think you can wrap your arms around a player, no matter if he is or is not moving.
In general, the Kings have shot more freethrows than the Lakers in this series so Kings fans have no reason to gripe. In fact, up to game 6, the Kings had outshot the Lakers 100-70 (not accurate, but close) from the FF line.
30 shot difference..now who is complaining about the officiating?
Everyone knew that all the calls would go shaqs way last night because the officials KNEW they screwed up when they fouled shaq out the night before. there is no way you can call the 6th foul on a star player in the latter half of the 4th quarter on the ticky tack foul they gave shaq. i'm not saying it wasn't a foul, but it was no more or less a foul than what webber did to fisher to free up bibby for the winning shot. i'm saying i agree with the non call on webber and it should have been a non call on shaq.
as to the nba being corrupt, it's been my contention on these boards from before that the NBA is all set up. MJ was annointed and chosen as the savior of NBA, it worked then. Kobe has been annointed and chosen as the savior of the nba for the next 10 years. only tiime will tell.
did anyone also see the foul on Bibby in the first or second quarter when Kobe went up for a jumber in the paint and Bibby didnt even touch him?? you could see it on the replay Bibbys arm was like 6 inches away from Kobe!! i thought the officials were suppose to listen for the slapping sound?? how did that official make that call especially if he was behind Bibby??!!!!!!
DAMN YOU REFS *shaking fist in air*
DAMN YOU REFS *shaking fist in air*
exactly. that's when i knew the game was gonna go downhill (i believe it was the first part of the first quarter).
calling a foul on bibby without him touching kobe? something's up.
it really is sad these days, all calls go towards the "best" players, so yeah, Kobe will get a call over Bibby, and yeah, Shaq will get a call over Vlade or Pollard, it's like that in all sports though,
i had a minor league baseball ump tell me recently that todays strikezone might be a little bigger, because he needed to gte back to the hotel and catch a flight.
wrong, yeah, but does it happen, yup,every day
i had a minor league baseball ump tell me recently that todays strikezone might be a little bigger, because he needed to gte back to the hotel and catch a flight.
wrong, yeah, but does it happen, yup,every day
i didnt think it could get any worse than earlier in the series, but it did, and i probably wont be watching game 7.
MadRat
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<<I'm not into the whole conspiracy theory but I must say that NBA officals are at the bottom of the barrel.
NBA- Traveling, palming the ball (Iversons crossover or all crossovers to be specific) , charging/blocking (What is charging one time is called blocking later) and the stars get most of the calls
MLB -Some pitchers/hitters get benefit of larger/smaller strike zone
NFL- Holding calls (holding could be called on almost any given play and sometimes the timing is suspect)
NHL -Clutching/grabbing also gets called randomly
All sports officials have their problems just seems the stars in the NBA have such a big advantage over Joe 6th man>>
You do realize that American taxpayers foot $1 billion worth of exemptions to these four leagues alone, in effect making them federally protected corporations. If you don't like the integrity of their systems then file a formal complaint with your congressman or House representative. We've been exempting these corporations from the federal Sherman Anti-Trust Act for sixty-five years on account that they are in it for entertainment and not profit. If you believe they are not in it for everyone's enjoyment then call their bluff.
NBA- Traveling, palming the ball (Iversons crossover or all crossovers to be specific) , charging/blocking (What is charging one time is called blocking later) and the stars get most of the calls
MLB -Some pitchers/hitters get benefit of larger/smaller strike zone
NFL- Holding calls (holding could be called on almost any given play and sometimes the timing is suspect)
NHL -Clutching/grabbing also gets called randomly
All sports officials have their problems just seems the stars in the NBA have such a big advantage over Joe 6th man>>
You do realize that American taxpayers foot $1 billion worth of exemptions to these four leagues alone, in effect making them federally protected corporations. If you don't like the integrity of their systems then file a formal complaint with your congressman or House representative. We've been exempting these corporations from the federal Sherman Anti-Trust Act for sixty-five years on account that they are in it for entertainment and not profit. If you believe they are not in it for everyone's enjoyment then call their bluff.
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