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PJABBER

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Well, you still haven't made your case and you point to an article that doesn't do more than restate that about half the country thinks she is hot and the other half don't.

What you call pandering to her base really just points out your own cynicism.

Don't worry, you have plenty of company here as I believe that all of the anti-Palin posters either willfully or ignorantly think that she is playing some kind of game, and that she holds to the same oh-so-world-weary standard of self-serving politics that they imagine they could play.

Palin is a true believer, she is not playing this for some kind of power or prestige or money or brownie points. If she achieves these, so much the better for they might help her reach her goals, but they are not themselves the goals.

Contrast her to Obama, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus if they don't contribute to his career. He will first make you believe he loves you and then he will turn around and do his best to destroy you if you step the tiniest bit out of the dogmatic line.

Unlike Obama, who, as an empty suit flapping in the wind, seems to delusionally believe he is destined to be Master of the Universe, Palin is focusing on pushing a pro-America/small government conservative set of policy objectives. I don't even know that she is all that interested in holding public office again as it might limit her effectiveness in getting things done.

It seems she is actually attempting to serve the country as best as she is able. While you may, and almost certainly do, disagree with her vision for an anti-corruption, people-serving, less intrusive government, that you are cynically blind to her pursuing this only reflects poorly on your judgment of character.

Palin has fought Republicans and Democrats in pushing a reformer/good government agenda her entire career in public office. And don't you track any of the news? Just this week Palin was one of the first to reject the RINO candidate for the NY-23 Congressional District. Now look at how many Republicans are following her lead.

Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23

A good leader has an inner compass that will let them be the first to take a step in the right direction, a great leader has the will to stay the course. She isn't pandering to her base, she is setting an example that I would hazard to guess many will follow.

Dude, you have your nose so far up Palin's ass it's a wonder you can still breathe without passing out. I knew Palin supporters were fervent to the point of irrationality, but man, you really take the f'ing cake.

Where do you get an idea that I am a Palin supporter? Isn't the election over? Is she running for some office that I am unaware of? Or are you worried about 2010 (you should be) or 2012 (you will be)?

Why are you so ready to dump on her now that she is a private citizen?

Personally, I buy into a lot of the same principles that Palin does. I like principled people and I like the character she has shown. I am waiting to see what she does next.
 

boomerang

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The childishness of the left never ceases to amaze me. Publish a parody book about her and in doing so keep her in the spotlight. Duh.

The FOX news debacle has worked so well for the White House. It's got more people tuning in than ever and has raised their ratings. The major networks have now remembered that what's bad for one goose is bad for all geese. Did the left learn anything from it, of course not.

Now that same mindset deals with Palin. It's really time to grow up and think things through. There's a better chance of her fading away if you ignore her. An entire political party stuck with a grade school mentality. :shakes head;

I should be telling you something here you already know. Do you know it? Looks like the answer is no. Playtime will commence right after your naps.
 

Double Trouble

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I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Well, you still haven't made your case and you point to an article that doesn't do more than restate that about half the country thinks she is hot and the other half don't.

What you call pandering to her base really just points out your own cynicism.

Don't worry, you have plenty of company here as I believe that all of the anti-Palin posters either willfully or ignorantly think that she is playing some kind of game, and that she holds to the same oh-so-world-weary standard of self-serving politics that they imagine they could play.

Palin is a true believer, she is not playing this for some kind of power or prestige or money or brownie points. If she achieves these, so much the better for they might help her reach her goals, but they are not themselves the goals.

Contrast her to Obama, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus if they don't contribute to his career. He will first make you believe he loves you and then he will turn around and do his best to destroy you if you step the tiniest bit out of the dogmatic line.

Unlike Obama, who, as an empty suit flapping in the wind, seems to delusionally believe he is destined to be Master of the Universe, Palin is focusing on pushing a pro-America/small government conservative set of policy objectives. I don't even know that she is all that interested in holding public office again as it might limit her effectiveness in getting things done.

It seems she is actually attempting to serve the country as best as she is able. While you may, and almost certainly do, disagree with her vision for an anti-corruption, people-serving, less intrusive government, that you are cynically blind to her pursuing this only reflects poorly on your judgment of character.

Palin has fought Republicans and Democrats in pushing a reformer/good government agenda her entire career in public office. And don't you track any of the news? Just this week Palin was one of the first to reject the RINO candidate for the NY-23 Congressional District. Now look at how many Republicans are following her lead.

Top Republicans jump ship in NY-23

A good leader has an inner compass that will let them be the first to take a step in the right direction, a great leader has the will to stay the course. She isn't pandering to her base, she is setting an example that I would hazard to guess many will follow.

Dude, you have your nose so far up Palin's ass it's a wonder you can still breathe without passing out. I knew Palin supporters were fervent to the point of irrationality, but man, you really take the f'ing cake.

Where do you get an idea that I am a Palin supporter? Isn't the election over? Is she running for some office that I am unaware of? Or are you worried about 2010 (you should be) or 2012 (you will be)?

Why are you so ready to dump on her now that she is a private citizen?

Personally, I buy into a lot of the same principles that Palin does. I like principled people and I like the character she has shown. I am waiting to see what she does next.

It's obvious. Do you even bother to read the breathless drivel you write? We get it dude, you're a social/fiscal conservative who loves Sarah Palin and hates Obama. I think you just need to admit it to yourself and stop pretending that somehow you're this objective guy, because you're not.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.

She was mayor of some backwater shithole town in Alaska, leaving them with a pile of debt upon her departure. Then, as Alaska's gov, she did nothing but bring ethics charges by the dozen against herself while quitting her position prematurely so she could pursue a book deal instead of completing her term.

Yeah dude, she's soooo "accomplished." :laugh:
 

Lemon law

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Boomerang seems to miss the point in saying, "Now that same mindset deals with Palin. It's really time to grow up and think things through. There's a better chance of her fading away if you ignore her. An entire political party stuck with a grade school mentality. :shakes head;"

Its actually where both sides on this thread agree, the right wants more Palin public exposure because she is popular with them and the left wants more Palin public exposure because she is such a nut case that she drives ever more moderate Republicans to vote democratic.

Let Palin fade away, perish the thought. She is somewhat of a cross between a long running national soap opera and and a comedy movie like dumb and dumber, all ways fun to watch, what will she do next?

Methinks Boomerang is confusing name recognition with public approval.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.

She was mayor of some backwater shithole town in Alaska, leaving them with a pile of debt upon her departure. Then, as Alaska's gov, she did nothing but bring ethics charges by the dozen against herself while quitting her position prematurely so she could pursue a book deal instead of completing her term.

Yeah dude, she's soooo "accomplished." :laugh:


and how many of those ethics charges have stuck?
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.

She was mayor of some backwater shithole town in Alaska, leaving them with a pile of debt upon her departure. Then, as Alaska's gov, she did nothing but bring ethics charges by the dozen against herself while quitting her position prematurely so she could pursue a book deal instead of completing her term.

Yeah dude, she's soooo "accomplished." :laugh:

You waste your time repeating the propaganda used during the election.

"Life is a state of mind."

I guess people have different concepts of what "accomplishment" means. On the one hand you have unending praise from the Left and the Democrat hacks that Obama is "accomplished" because he got elected, that is, his campaigns were models of efficiency (and more than a little luck, but as Lefty Gomez said, "I'd rather be lucky than good.")

I question what he did in the offices he won, which was nothing. Even now, he continues more as a mouthpiece as the Valerie Jarretts, Rahm Emanuels and the Nancy Pelosis run the government. I am really starting to think that he is Chauncey Gardiner with a talent for reading a speech someone else writes.

Palin was a member of the Wasilla, Alaska, city council from 1992 to 1996 and the city's mayor from 1996 to 2002. After an unsuccessful campaign for Lieutenant Governor of Alaska in 2002, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 until her resignation in 2004. She was elected Governor of Alaska in November 2006. Palin became the first female governor of Alaska and the youngest person ever elected governor of that state.

Those are the facts, but what impresses me is that in each job she tried to do the right thing and without some overreaching self-serving ulterior motive. How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character.

BTW, do you really still believe there was any merit to any of the ethics accusations that were brought in as political harassment the midst of the election? Haven't they all been dismissed as frivolous?

The harassments were effective in costing the State of Alaska and the Palins some time and money, though. Isn't to-the-death politics grand? It must make you proud!
 

Lanyap

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Originally posted by: boomerang
The childishness of the left never ceases to amaze me. Publish a parody book about her and in doing so keep her in the spotlight. Duh.

The FOX news debacle has worked so well for the White House. It's got more people tuning in than ever and has raised their ratings. The major networks have now remembered that what's bad for one goose is bad for all geese. Did the left learn anything from it, of course not.

Now that same mindset deals with Palin. It's really time to grow up and think things through. There's a better chance of her fading away if you ignore her. An entire political party stuck with a grade school mentality. :shakes head;

I should be telling you something here you already know. Do you know it? Looks like the answer is no. Playtime will commence right after your naps.

So true.

 

xj0hnx

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
4.) Will both books flop, because no one gives two craps about Sarah Palin anymore?

I'm breathless with anticipation to see which way the winds will blow for Caribou Barbie.

You're breathless with anticipation about something nobody gives two craps about? May suggest a hobby, knitting maybe?
 

Lemon law

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Boomerang somehow concludes, " An entire political party stuck with a grade school mentality. :shakes head;"

Earth to Boomerang, Earth to Boomerang, just because some small set of individuals decided they might capitalize on the release of GOING ROUGE publicity and thereby make buck off of a Palin parody book timed for for the same release date, does not make it an entire democratic party conspiracy. As for me, I have no plans to waste any time or money reading either book. After all, I can read the highlights of both on P&N. And get my chuckles and grins the cheap way. Which will be funnier, the dubious statements Palin makes or the parody book itself?

But thousands of Public Libraries will buy both these books guaranteeing somewhat of a national market. In the end, I suspect neither will be worth all those trees chopped up to make the paper.
 

ChunkiMunki

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.

She was mayor of some backwater shithole town in Alaska, leaving them with a pile of debt upon her departure. Then, as Alaska's gov, she did nothing but bring ethics charges by the dozen against herself while quitting her position prematurely so she could pursue a book deal instead of completing her term.

Yeah dude, she's soooo "accomplished." :laugh:

she was able to dole out $2,000 per Alaskan as well as win several beauty contests. PROVEN LEADERSHIP

 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Boomerang somehow concludes, " An entire political party stuck with a grade school mentality. :shakes head;"

Earth to Boomerang, Earth to Boomerang, just because some small set of individuals decided they might capitalize on the release of GOING ROUGE publicity and thereby make buck off of a Palin parody book timed for for the same release date, does not make it an entire democratic party conspiracy. As for me, I have no plans to waste any time or money reading either book. After all, I can read the highlights of both on P&N. And get my chuckles and grins the cheap way. Which will be funnier, the dubious statements Palin makes or the parody book itself?

But thousands of Public Libraries will buy both these books guaranteeing somewhat of a national market. In the end, I suspect neither will be worth all those trees chopped up to make the paper.
Two replies to my post. I guess I must have struck a nerve.

You missed what I was saying. Never did I even allude to "conspiracy" that's something you've come up with on your own. My post clearly states "mindset". I was pointing out that the childish behavior of the administration is reflected in the individuals who felt it necessary to create a parody book on Palin.

Now I may have missed the mark here because whether the crew in the White House is acting like children and the Democratic party is then mimicking that behavior or whether it's the opposite in that the White House is a true representation of the party is open to interpretation. Regardless, it makes little difference. The behavior is the same I saw in my grandchildren when they were young.

They wanted everything their way and dissent was met with behavior typical to a two year old. Assuming most of the staff at the White House does not need their diapers changed any longer, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are acting like grade school children.

If they devoted as much time to addressing the problems of our nation that they do to attempts at silencing the meanies of this world that disagree with them, they might actually be able to accomplish something. But going after FOX, Limbaugh, the Chamber of Commerce, Bush and Cheney, talk radio, town hall attendees, tea party organizers, health insurance companies, Wall Street executives and everyone else they don't yet control, creates a wondrous distraction from the fact that they can't govern.

Palin is no issue for me sir, but it is plainly obvious to everyone that she scares the bejeezus out of the left. You should quit while you're ahead. You can wrap Palin up in whatever bullshit rhetoric works for you on any given day, but just as I know when my grandkids are trying to blow smoke up my ass, I recognize your words for what they are. Fear


 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: boomerang
...I recognize your words for what they are. Fear
It is indeed fear - fear that someone of Governor Palin's obviously limited intellect and abilities could conceivably end up in the Oval Office as something more than "visitor".
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I can't support someone like Palin for political office because she holds some pretty crazy fundamentalist religious views. At the same time, when it comes to non-religious stuff, I agree with a lot of her positions. The vitriol of the left against her ranges from childish to despicable, so I'm glad she'll do very well for herself and continue to be a thorn in their side for a long time to come. Their fascination with smearing her only makes her more popular. Agree with her or not, she's a political pitbull and she's accomplished quite a bit in her life.

She was mayor of some backwater shithole town in Alaska, leaving them with a pile of debt upon her departure. Then, as Alaska's gov, she did nothing but bring ethics charges by the dozen against herself while quitting her position prematurely so she could pursue a book deal instead of completing her term.

Yeah dude, she's soooo "accomplished." :laugh:

You waste your time repeating the propaganda used during the election.

"Life is a state of mind."

I guess people have different concepts of what "accomplishment" means. On the one hand you have unending praise from the Left and the Democrat hacks that Obama is "accomplished" because he got elected, that is, his campaigns were models of efficiency (and more than a little luck, but as Lefty Gomez said, "I'd rather be lucky than good.")

I question what he did in the offices he won, which was nothing. Even now, he continues more as a mouthpiece as the Valerie Jarretts, Rahm Emanuels and the Nancy Pelosis run the government. I am really starting to think that he is Chauncey Gardiner with a talent for reading a speech someone else writes.

Palin was a member of the Wasilla, Alaska, city council from 1992 to 1996 and the city's mayor from 1996 to 2002. After an unsuccessful campaign for Lieutenant Governor of Alaska in 2002, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 until her resignation in 2004. She was elected Governor of Alaska in November 2006. Palin became the first female governor of Alaska and the youngest person ever elected governor of that state.

Those are the facts, but what impresses me is that in each job she tried to do the right thing and without some overreaching self-serving ulterior motive. How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character.

BTW, do you really still believe there was any merit to any of the ethics accusations that were brought in as political harassment the midst of the election? Haven't they all been dismissed as frivolous?

The harassments were effective in costing the State of Alaska and the Palins some time and money, though. Isn't to-the-death politics grand? It must make you proud!

Well, if nothing else, your core competency seems to be: Can polish a steaming turd. You must be so proud! To be able to spin such abject miserable failure into something barely resembling accomplishment. Way to go, PJ, way to go!
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Those are the facts, but what impresses me is that in each job she tried to do the right thing and without some overreaching self-serving ulterior motive. How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character.
Oh, and perhaps you need to fact-check your "facts."

Q: How many times did Obama vote 'present' as a state senator?
I keep reading that Obama has "no legislative accomplishments" and at the GOP convention, Palin kept saying he voted "present" 123 times, or something like that. Can you please fact-check this?

A: He did so 129 times, which represents a little more than 3 percent of his total votes.
We've received a number of questions from readers asking us how many times Sen. Barack Obama voted "present" in the Illinois state Legislature. The issue was raised by Hillary Clinton in January, when she accused Obama of "taking a pass" on tough issues. Clinton's line of attack has now been picked up by Republicans. It was renewed Sept. 3 in a speech to the Republican convention, not by vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as our questioner recalls, but by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfa...bama_vote_present.html

Even your "facts" are full of crap. Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously? Yeah bro, 3% is like SO many times it shows, like his character and stuff. Do YOU even take yourself seriously? You're like a pathetic caricature of the idiotic conservative talking point moron.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Those are the facts, but what impresses me is that in each job she tried to do the right thing and without some overreaching self-serving ulterior motive. How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character.
Oh, and perhaps you need to fact-check your "facts."

Q: How many times did Obama vote 'present' as a state senator?
I keep reading that Obama has "no legislative accomplishments" and at the GOP convention, Palin kept saying he voted "present" 123 times, or something like that. Can you please fact-check this?

A: He did so 129 times, which represents a little more than 3 percent of his total votes.
We've received a number of questions from readers asking us how many times Sen. Barack Obama voted "present" in the Illinois state Legislature. The issue was raised by Hillary Clinton in January, when she accused Obama of "taking a pass" on tough issues. Clinton's line of attack has now been picked up by Republicans. It was renewed Sept. 3 in a speech to the Republican convention, not by vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as our questioner recalls, but by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfa...bama_vote_present.html

Even your "facts" are full of crap. Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously? Yeah bro, 3% is like SO many times it shows, like his character and stuff. Do YOU even take yourself seriously? You're like a pathetic caricature of the idiotic conservative talking point moron.

Good one. :thumbsup:
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Palin was a member of the Wasilla, Alaska, city council from 1992 to 1996
Of which any mouth-breathing, half-sentient, former meth addict could accomplish. So, yeah, win! Am I right?
....and the city's mayor from 1996 to 2002.
Upon leaving office, she'd racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt, or nearly $3k in debt per resident. Fiscal conservatism FTW!
After an unsuccessful campaign for Lieutenant Governor of Alaska in 2002
FAIL!
she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 until her resignation in 2004.
She resigned. A natural-born quitter! But oh! Quitting is so admirable, right PJabber?
She was elected Governor of Alaska in November 2006. Palin became the first female governor of Alaska and the youngest person ever elected governor of that state.
That's strikingly similar to: "First black President of the United States." And so the F what?
Those are the facts, but what impresses me is that in each job she tried to do the right thing and without some overreaching self-serving ulterior motive. How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character.
Lame talking point already debunked. Next!
BTW, do you really still believe there was any merit to any of the ethics accusations that were brought in as political harassment the midst of the election? Haven't they all been dismissed as frivolous?
Yes, I believe Palin abused her power at every turn as did her first dude, Todd. Who used her office to pursue family vengeance on those who would oppose them.
The harassments were effective in costing the State of Alaska and the Palins some time and money, though. Isn't to-the-death politics grand? It must make you proud!
Again, PJabber, as you polish the turd, the rest of us wonder why you're bothering. Except that your nose is so far up Palin's ass, you cannot possibly see straight. But I understand. You live in your own conservative version of reality, where Palin is a folk hero and can do no wrong. We understand. We know your simple mind cannot bear to hold Palin to the same standards as you hold Obama. You're a partisan hack. You can't help yourself.
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
...How unlike the Obama, who hardly ever went to work and voted "present" so many times when it came to making a stand and showing his true character....
You can't really be this ignorant, can you? Are you merely succumbing to the disease of Partisanship, of which you are so eager to accuse others?

Under the rules of the Illinois House of Representatives, a vote of "Present" is used by a legislator to signify that he supports parts of a bill, but that he cannot support the legislation in its entirety. It is, in effect, a "No" vote on a measure that the legislator could support if amended.
This was thoroughly explained during the Democratic primary campaign, and the explanation was repeated when the Republicans (led by Mayor Giuliani, the Great Whore of Gracie Mansion) revived this spurious accusation during the general election.
 

trenchfoot

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Where is it that the left is panicking over Palin? Where is it that the left is afraid of her?

It seems the righties are the ones who are conjuring up this silly idea that the left is somehow afraid of her for reasons that are even sillier than the allegation itself.

I guess the righties haven't figured out yet or refuse to believe/admit that whatever spell their very own propagandists put them under doesn't have the slightest effect on anyone else but themselves.

That Rovian ploy of repeating a lie often enough to make it truthy had played itself out years ago. Everyone's wise to it. That dog don't hunt no more.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Simply leftists terrified of a confident, successful attractive conservative woman. Go Palin!
You can be as confident as you like, but confident != competent.

 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Rangoric
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
4.) Will both books flop, because no one gives two craps about Sarah Palin anymore?

this question is already answered in the negative at least for Palin's book.

As to the title, if they put a similar picture of her on the cover, I smell a law suit.

Nah, parody/satire gets around that:

http://www.amazon.com/Godless-...&qid=1256239300&sr=8-3

vs.

http://www.amazon.com/Soulless...&qid=1256239387&sr=8-3

is just one example.

In all cases I know of the parody book doesn't get nearly as well sold. People tend to like the idea, not not want to bother spending money on it.



Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: jonks
As to the title, if they put a similar picture of her on the cover, I smell a law suit.

parody is allowed in copyright law. But she can still sue :) it is America after all

You're both correct, and both wrong, inasmuch as I was not referring to copyright infringement, but Trademark violations.

Parody is a defense to copyright infringement, NOT trademark infringement. If you intentionally style a product such that it becomes likely to confuse an end consumer making a purchase, then you can be sued for trademark infringement.

Rangoric's example is distinguishable on several fronts, the two that come immediately to mind is that the titles are very different (Godless vs Soulless), and the picture on one is Coulter while the second merely resembles her. If they put a picture of Coulter on the parody cover, you might have seen some legal action despite the title difference.

If the Palin parody is relying on one letter transposed, and uses a pic of palin on the cover, I wouldn't be surprised to see a suit. More publicity for both of them that way anyway.

Discussed here, and I doubt we're the only ones to think of this:
http://volokh.com/2009/10/22/going-rogue-going-rouge/
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Maybe waggy gets to the heart of the matter with, "it amazes me that so many are doing there best to trash the women now. All its doing is makeing people read about her and like her. let her fade out to be a footnote."

There is no doubt that Palin is loved by the 20% or so of the radical right, the problem is that <Palin alienates large segments of the GOP who have now either gone democratic or independent.

...yadda, yadda, yadda.

Can you back this statement up? Or is this just your opinion?

you are a walking mountain of irony.
 

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Originally posted by: jonks
What Americans know that PJabber doesn't:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2...mages/10/27/rel15k.pdf


Is Palin qualified to be president? NO - 71%

Using your own poll, and recalling that Palin was by far the most vilified candidate in the 2008 election cycle and remains the prime target of Democrat attack politics -

With favorability ratings double or triple that of incumbent politicians and unmatched in her rating as not being a "business as usual" politician it remains to be seen if Palin will go for another political office or capitalize on the opinion influence she might have. If the political winds blow strongly in the direction of anti-incumbency she is going to remain highly influential running for office or not.

BTW, based on the lightest resume of any candidate at the time, no one though BO was presidential material and he got in on HOPE for CHANGE. I can see Palin playing that same game, don't you? :laugh:

Not a typical politician
October 16-18, 2009 65%

A good role model for women
October 16-18, 2009 64%

Care about the needs of people like you
October 16-18, 2009 56%

Is honest and trustworthy
October 16-18, 2009 55%

Shares your values
October 16-18, 2009 49%

Generally agrees with you on issues you care about
October 16-18, 2009 48%

Is a strong and decisive leader
October 16-18, 2009 47%

Choose your 2012 Republican candidate for President -

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee 32%
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin 25%
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney 21%