The narrative is that Pepe is associated with racism

[LegendKiller]

Sessions literally lost his SC bid due to involvement in racial incidents. Though I can see why the white nationalists will say anything to get one of their own into power.

His alleged involvement. The accuser was later implicated in his own schemes.

Civil right leaders like elijah Cummings are more than willing to hold his hands. Other African American leaders have come out in his defense. Yet you know better than them?

 

[agent00f]

His alleged involvement. The accuser was later implicated in his own schemes.

Civil right leaders like elijah Cummings are more than willing to hold his hands. Other African American leaders have come out in his defense. Yet you know better than them?

Breitbart also claims it's not racist.

 

[Exophase]

It's quite revealing how hard people will try to fail at understanding this rather simple situation.

Pepe was made the symbol of /pol/ by the very people who frequent it. In case anyone is out of the loop, that's the blatantly racist section of 4chan. They make quite a few meme images with the means to distribute them widely.

Respectable people want no part or association with this, which is why said imagery/symbolism is rather frowned upon. To those folks, the /pol/ sort are the ones responsible, because they are.

Of course others who identify more with the /pol/ crowd don't them to be blamed, since it's like blaming themselves, so they divert it to old standby scapegoats like all their problems in life. Frankly I'm surprised illegals or other undesirables haven't been invoked.

It's quite revealing how you respond to a literal hoax by telling other people they're putting their heads in the sand.

And "means to distribute them widely", yeah they must have internet super powers or something I guess. The world's Pepe supply has been commandeered by /pol/ who (not so) secretly controlled the internet anyway. I hope someone finally does something about it. Maybe a declaration of war. Free Pepe.

Apparently in your world you can't cross the street without a racist Pepe yelling slurs at you.

 

[LegendKiller]

Breitbart also claims it's not racist.

As opposed to the hoaxing msm who would have us believe everything, including their non involvement in giving hillary questions and kid gloves approach to anything establishment?

 

[Zaap]

A cartoon frog makes all Republicans racist.

Just like Doom makes kids shoot up schools, and Ozzy & Metallica make kids kill themselves.

This is the kind of logic and attitude that won Trump the Presidency. Don't see the sense in doubling down on it.

Double down would be bad enough.

Every single day tripple...quad... quintupple down until Trump sails into the white house again in 2020 is more like it.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

The reason is because it was born out of /pol/ a board on 4chan which has many members who identify as part of the alt right. The alt right are more libertarian and focused on unity of ones own race and culture, they tend to be anti-immigration.

The MSM are heavily left wing and the tactics are to shame positions rather than argue against them, we've seen this for years. So this meme was labelled as racist. Note that things aren't racist simply because the media asserts that they are.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I'm talking about Pepe the frog, the cartoon character ... (Which is what this whole debacle is about, not the (nick)name. Jeez.)

And Im trying to tell you in order to understand Pepe, you have to know everything about Pepe. It as nothing with the ADL's attempts to stay relevant or get Hillary elected.

 

[agent00f]

It's quite revealing how you respond to a literal hoax by telling other people they're putting their heads in the sand.

And "means to distribute them widely", yeah they must have internet super powers or something I guess. The world's Pepe supply has been commandeered by /pol/ who (not so) secretly controlled the internet anyway. I hope someone finally does something about it. Maybe a declaration of war. Free Pepe.

Apparently in your world you can't cross the street without a racist Pepe yelling slurs at you.

Hey, racism is just a prank bro. They never meant it any more than anything Trump ever says.

As opposed to the hoaxing msm who would have us believe everything, including their non involvement in giving hillary questions and kid gloves approach to anything establishment?

Interesting the talking point is now it's all a "hoax", even in the context of diverting to Hillary, lol.

The reason is because it was born out of /pol/ a board on 4chan which has many members who identify as part of the alt right. The alt right are more libertarian and focused on unity of ones own race and culture, they tend to be anti-immigration.

The MSM are heavily left wing and the tactics are to shame positions rather than argue against them, we've seen this for years. So this meme was labelled as racist. Note that things aren't racist simply because the media asserts that they are.

The Alternative Right was born out of a magazine of the same name which featured such illustrative articles like "Is black genocide right?". Spoiler alert, it was bit of a rhetorical question. Also amusing white nationalism isn't considered racist anymore; guess they're just race realists.

 

[agent00f]

Double down would be bad enough.

Every single day tripple...quad... quintupple down until Trump sails into the white house again in 2020 is more like it.

Weren't you just admitting you didn't know anything about this subject? But I guess you know enough that it's all the libtards fault because everyone here who loves that term think so.

And Im trying to tell you in order to understand Pepe, you have to know everything about Pepe. It as nothing with the ADL's attempts to stay relevant or get Hillary elected.

You're not very good at the right wing shitposting.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Also amusing white nationalism isn't considered racist anymore; guess they're just race realists.

No it's just that the age of being shamed for ones belief and being beaten down by rhetoric that you're a racist is slowly starting to dissolve. It has never been racist to point out facts about race that are true in the aggregate, it's only racist to treat individuals based on their race.

When you're talking about things such as unchecked immigration across basically open borders then yes people start to get concerned when they see a decline in quality of life. But this is the same rhetorical device we've seen the left use for at least the last decade, which is that if you cannot bring the right facts to the table but you want your own way, then simply hurl insults and shame those people. Exactly the same tactic that feminists do, the moment anyone is skeptical about the data on rape or spousal abuse or something that's a trigger for them, you're labelled a "rape apologist" and contributing to "rape culture" or a "violent and sexist misogynist"

This is all control over language to subdue opponents who don't want to look bad, and it worked for a time until we got burned out, and now that white men are basically the devil and the cause of every problem and there's literally no further to be shamed by this, you get a push back. That's what the alt right is and why no one in that movement cares about the shaming anymore, it just pings off, they're not scared to hold those beliefs.

I said it about Trump and I'll say it about the alt right, these things are caused by how the left have behaved.

 

[agent00f]

No it's just that the age of being shamed for ones belief and being beaten down by rhetoric that you're a racist is slowly starting to dissolve. It has never been racist to point out facts about race that are true in the aggregate, it's only racist to treat individuals based on their race.

When you're talking about things such as unchecked immigration across basically open borders then yes people start to get concerned when they see a decline in quality of life. But this is the same rhetorical device we've seen the left use for at least the last decade, which is that if you cannot bring the right facts to the table but you want your own way, then simply hurl insults and shame those people. Exactly the same tactic that feminists do, the moment anyone is skeptical about the data on rape or spousal abuse or something that's a trigger for them, you're labelled a "rape apologist" and contributing to "rape culture" or a "violent and sexist misogynist"

This is all control over language to subdue opponents who don't want to look bad, and it worked for a time until we got burned out, and now that white men are basically the devil and the cause of every problem and there's literally no further to be shamed by this, you get a push back. That's what the alt right is and why no one in that movement cares about the shaming anymore, it just pings off, they're not scared to hold those beliefs.

Race realism: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racialism

Notice the point is create a race hierarchy with themselves closer to the top. I suspect you're smart enough to be somewhat aware of this.

I said it about Trump and I'll say it about the alt right, these things are caused by how the left have behaved.

Pretty sure Trump and such didn't create racism; though they do deserve credit for bring it back to some of its former glory.

 

[Valantar]

And Im trying to tell you in order to understand Pepe, you have to know everything about Pepe. It as nothing with the ADL's attempts to stay relevant or get Hillary elected.

So in order to understand the current cultural connotations of a cartoon-turned-meme, I have to understand the subtle nuances of the historical origin of its name? Sorry, you'll have to try harder than that if you're trolling. If you actually mean that, you might want to check you judgement. It's quite a bit off.