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dahunan

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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
IMHO, there shouldn't be any death on both side, if the politicians learn to work together instead of inspired hate/violent/division, and death.

You have the mind of a child.

So, you have the heart of a psychopath.. does that help to call each other names.. GJ - lol
 

theflyingpig

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
IMHO, there shouldn't be any death on both side, if the politicians learn to work together instead of inspired hate/violent/division, and death.

You have the mind of a child.

So, you have the heart of a psychopath.. does that help to call each other names.. GJ - lol

It does, actually. Now, why don't you go and post more of your incoherent ranting. It amuses me.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: ericlp
to call that a war is a disgrace... I don't even call Iraq a war. This was a few bombing raids.

What a joke. Lets send over some fighter jets and tanks because they got bb guns! sheesh... This was just an excuse for them to try out new american made weapons. Target practice.

Did you see those racist pigs crying.. "we lost 13 soldiers.. boo hoo... " BUT.. behind the scenes.. the Generals were "FUCK YES.!!!!!!!!! We MURDERED 1000 or more of those Palestenian Rats.. yes yes yes... ; Fuck America.. Fuck the UN.. Fuck those Cowardly Arab Govts.. WTF they gonna do Homeeeeeeeeeeee??"

Generals were like "We fucked that stupid punkass doctor up, huh.. lol.. did you see that.. we murdered his whole fucking family on live TV !! Yo what up DOG! .. dat shit was hella fun"



How did you make 16.5K posts without getting perma-d?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

You are not the only one in the world to witness a war zone, quit thinking you are so special.

Anything meaningful to contribute besides your own worthless opinion on the backgrounds of people on this board?
And, the same rhetoric that war mongers spout with out having experience nor knowledge make a lot more sense.

Why stay in Ontario of the US of A when people don't have the sambe belief as you. Because, I'm sure that Israel have an extra apartment for you in their newly developed occupy land.

I spent three years there and will be going back once I'm done school. I've experienced the war and have had friends die, and have lost contact with others in Gaza. The difference is I don't feel the need to brag about my past due to some perceived notion if I do it will make me more "authenticate" on a message board like you do. You trivialize it, wear it like a badge, you really don't understand its horror. The world would be much better without war, but it would also be foolish to think that if you stop fighting everyone else will. (Right now anyway, hopefully in the future it will come to that.)
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
If only we could have a bunch of really small comets to just take out all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons.

LOL. Wishing death on people because you don't agree with them. How amusing.

The supporters of Hamas are no better than the people they hate and just as bloodthirsty, just on the opposite side of the battle.

I said all all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons, and that includes the ones in Hamas right along side jackasses like yourself.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
If only we could have a bunch of really small comets to just take out all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons.

LOL. Wishing death on people because you don't agree with them. How amusing.

The supporters of Hamas are no better than the people they hate and just as bloodthirsty, just on the opposite side of the battle.

I said all all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons, and that includes the ones in Hamas right along side jackasses like yourself.

You can't call people bloodthirsty when you support there actions. That makes you a hypocrite now as well.
 

NoShangriLa

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

You are not the only one in the world to witness a war zone, quit thinking you are so special.

Anything meaningful to contribute besides your own worthless opinion on the backgrounds of people on this board?
And, the same rhetoric that war mongers spout with out having experience nor knowledge make a lot more sense.

Why stay in Ontario of the US of A when people don't have the sambe belief as you. Because, I'm sure that Israel have an extra apartment for you in their newly developed occupy land.

I spent three years there and will be going back once I'm done school. I've experienced the war and have had friends die, and have lost contact with others in Gaza. The difference is I don't feel the need to brag about my past due to some perceived notion if I do it will make me more "authenticate" on a message board like you do. You trivialize it, wear it like a badge, you really don't understand its horror. The world would be much better without war, but it would also be foolish to think that if you stop fighting everyone else will. (Right now anyway, hopefully in the future it will come to that.)
Perfect then, go back there and bow to your Third Reich leaders and go forth to murder der untermensch as the teaching of your God & prophet Jesus.

You are a perfect example of inferiority complex who feel that the world owe you a living because you happens to knew someone that may have been around at the same time as the Holocaust.

Using your ideology, the German & Russian have every right to wipe out the trouble making Jews.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

You are not the only one in the world to witness a war zone, quit thinking you are so special.

Anything meaningful to contribute besides your own worthless opinion on the backgrounds of people on this board?
And, the same rhetoric that war mongers spout with out having experience nor knowledge make a lot more sense.

Why stay in Ontario of the US of A when people don't have the sambe belief as you. Because, I'm sure that Israel have an extra apartment for you in their newly developed occupy land.

I spent three years there and will be going back once I'm done school. I've experienced the war and have had friends die, and have lost contact with others in Gaza. The difference is I don't feel the need to brag about my past due to some perceived notion if I do it will make me more "authenticate" on a message board like you do. You trivialize it, wear it like a badge, you really don't understand its horror. The world would be much better without war, but it would also be foolish to think that if you stop fighting everyone else will. (Right now anyway, hopefully in the future it will come to that.)
Perfect then, go back there and bow to your Third Reich leaders and go forth to murder der untermensch as the teaching of your God & prophet Jesus.

You are a perfect example of inferiority complex who feel that the world owe you a living because you happens to knew someone that may have been around at the same time as the Holocaust.

Using your ideology, the German & Russian have every the right to wipe out the trouble making Jews.

Now who is all high and mighty? You are pathetic. As I said, unlike you, I don't wear my past as a badge.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
All you did was cut the grass. It will continue to grow. I thought you were all about going in there for the final solution? now it seems the leaders are weak and won't do what was needed.

Wow, hopefully that phrase was used with full knowlege of it's implications, and therefore sarcastically...
 

NoShangriLa

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

You are not the only one in the world to witness a war zone, quit thinking you are so special.

Anything meaningful to contribute besides your own worthless opinion on the backgrounds of people on this board?
And, the same rhetoric that war mongers spout with out having experience nor knowledge make a lot more sense.

Why stay in Ontario of the US of A when people don't have the sambe belief as you. Because, I'm sure that Israel have an extra apartment for you in their newly developed occupy land.

I spent three years there and will be going back once I'm done school. I've experienced the war and have had friends die, and have lost contact with others in Gaza. The difference is I don't feel the need to brag about my past due to some perceived notion if I do it will make me more "authenticate" on a message board like you do. You trivialize it, wear it like a badge, you really don't understand its horror. The world would be much better without war, but it would also be foolish to think that if you stop fighting everyone else will. (Right now anyway, hopefully in the future it will come to that.)
Perfect then, go back there and bow to your Third Reich leaders and go forth to murder der untermensch as the teaching of your God & prophet Jesus.

You are a perfect example of inferiority complex who feel that the world owe you a living because you happens to knew someone that may have been around at the same time as the Holocaust.

Using your ideology, the German & Russian have every the right to wipe out the trouble making Jews.

Now who is all high and mighty? You are pathetic. As I said, unlike you, I don't wear my past as a badge.
So what the hell with so many treads that you create/post for?

PS. What past, you are still wet behind the ear to have a past.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Pacifist never win.

Ghandi? Martin Luther King? No?...

Martin Luther King galvanized an already militant black society. You cannot speak of Martin Luther King without also speaking of Malcolm X and of the Black Panthers, and of the all black unions, and of the militant notion of black power that was bred out of the 30's and 40's.

Ghandi, I cannot discuss as in depth sadly, though I am sure you can find a militant attitude, or militant force working with the same ideas as him that gave his ideas a "bite" that words themselves just do not have.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

You are not the only one in the world to witness a war zone, quit thinking you are so special.

Anything meaningful to contribute besides your own worthless opinion on the backgrounds of people on this board?
And, the same rhetoric that war mongers spout with out having experience nor knowledge make a lot more sense.

Why stay in Ontario of the US of A when people don't have the sambe belief as you. Because, I'm sure that Israel have an extra apartment for you in their newly developed occupy land.

I spent three years there and will be going back once I'm done school. I've experienced the war and have had friends die, and have lost contact with others in Gaza. The difference is I don't feel the need to brag about my past due to some perceived notion if I do it will make me more "authenticate" on a message board like you do. You trivialize it, wear it like a badge, you really don't understand its horror. The world would be much better without war, but it would also be foolish to think that if you stop fighting everyone else will. (Right now anyway, hopefully in the future it will come to that.)
Perfect then, go back there and bow to your Third Reich leaders and go forth to murder der untermensch as the teaching of your God & prophet Jesus.

You are a perfect example of inferiority complex who feel that the world owe you a living because you happens to knew someone that may have been around at the same time as the Holocaust.

Using your ideology, the German & Russian have every the right to wipe out the trouble making Jews.

Now who is all high and mighty? You are pathetic. As I said, unlike you, I don't wear my past as a badge.
So what the hell with so many treads that you create/post for?

PS. What past, you are still wet behind the ear to have a past.

For someone who seems to enjoy calling people out on useless "tough talk" you have enough of your own for people that challenge your ego.
 

brownzilla786

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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

This.

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
and neither do people who half ass it. Did we half ass if when we slaughtered the native americans? No. We won. You guys are doomed to be losers. You can't even kill a bunch of civilians and irregular militia. And when you start losing don't expect American blood to come be shed for your soil.

The Native Americans were fierce warriors and deserve respect, which is why the only way to defeat them was to slaughter them without mercy. This is precisely what Israel must do to permanently end this conflict.

We did not have to kill most of the Native Americans, they died by the airborn germs that the settlers brought from Europe. And when they did kill without mercy, they did it because they were pigs like you without moral code or sense of justice, and that was viewed as acceptable centuries ago because that was just how shit went down back then, there was no accountability. Israel would never be able to permanently end this conflict by brute force and merciless killing, they would have to wipe out Iran, Iraq, and the multiple other fighters that would gladly lay down their life to help their oppressed muslim brothers. Your ideas to end this conflict are beyond retarded.
 

brownzilla786

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Pacifist never win.

Ghandi? Martin Luther King? No?...

Martin Luther King galvanized an already militant black society. You cannot speak of Martin Luther King without also speaking of Malcolm X and of the Black Panthers, and of the all black unions, and of the militant notion of black power that was bred out of the 30's and 40's.

Ghandi, I cannot discuss as in depth sadly, though I am sure you can find a militant attitude, or militant force working with the same ideas as him that gave his ideas a "bite" that words themselves just do not have.

Martin Luther King you have an argument on, but not Ghandi. To my knowledge, albiet limited, Ghandi did indeed "win" by using his ideology and words. If there were any militants, they were such a minority that they really didn't have any "bite".
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Pacifist never win.

Ghandi? Martin Luther King? No?...

Martin Luther King galvanized an already militant black society. You cannot speak of Martin Luther King without also speaking of Malcolm X and of the Black Panthers, and of the all black unions, and of the militant notion of black power that was bred out of the 30's and 40's.

Ghandi, I cannot discuss as in depth sadly, though I am sure you can find a militant attitude, or militant force working with the same ideas as him that gave his ideas a "bite" that words themselves just do not have.

Yes, both of those leaders and their philosophies had their roots in militant organisations, but (especially in the case of Ghandi) they were a reaction to it rather than an element of it. Either movement could easily have been wiped out by the much more powerful opposition if they had continued to use violence, but their non-violent methods made that morally and politically unacceptable. It is certainly not true that pacifists never win, and in fact, I think the only way left for the Palestinians to survive is to adopt non-violence. Israel has an excuse (although some would say not a particularly good one) to kill the civilians due to the presence of militants in their midst, but how long would it be allowed to continue if there were no more militants? How many thousands of deaths and how many destroyed homes and schools would it take before the world, even America, said enough is enough?
 

fallout man

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LOL you guys:

NEENER NEENER NEENER!!!

Any Israeli soldiers accused of war crimes in the Gaza Strip will be given state protection from prosecution overseas, the country's PM has said.

Ehud Olmert said troops should know Israel would keep them safe after they acted to protect their country.

In Israel, Prime Minister Olmert told a weekly cabinet meeting that soldiers who had put their lives on the line for their country need not fear prosecution for war crimes overseas.

"The commanders and soldiers that were sent on the task in Gaza should know that they are safe from any tribunal and that the State of Israel will assist them in this issue and protect them as they protected us with their bodies during the military operation in Gaza," he said.

Israel's military tactics have come under intense scrutiny as evidence has emerged of the high numbers of Palestinian civilians killed in Gaza.

Among complaints made by human rights groups are accusations of indiscriminate firing and the use of white phosphorus shells in civilian areas.

Israel has admitted using white phosphorus in Gaza but says it did not break international law in doing so.

Mazel Tov!
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Pacifist never win.

Ghandi? Martin Luther King? No?...

Martin Luther King galvanized an already militant black society. You cannot speak of Martin Luther King without also speaking of Malcolm X and of the Black Panthers, and of the all black unions, and of the militant notion of black power that was bred out of the 30's and 40's.

Ghandi, I cannot discuss as in depth sadly, though I am sure you can find a militant attitude, or militant force working with the same ideas as him that gave his ideas a "bite" that words themselves just do not have.

Yes, both of those leaders and their philosophies had their roots in militant organisations, but (especially in the case of Ghandi) they were a reaction to it rather than an element of it. Either movement could easily have been wiped out by the much more powerful opposition if they had continued to use violence, but their non-violent methods made that morally and politically unacceptable. It is certainly not true that pacifists never win, and in fact, I think the only way left for the Palestinians to survive is to adopt non-violence. Israel has an excuse (although some would say not a particularly good one) to kill the civilians due to the presence of militants in their midst, but how long would it be allowed to continue if there were no more militants? How many thousands of deaths and how many destroyed homes and schools would it take before the world, even America, said enough is enough?

Well you are in agreement than with a majority of the people of Israel who would support peace and would willingly give up the land if the violence stopped. If this truce holds, if it actually becomes viable, I expect to see a two state solution rather quickly as the people of both sides want two things. Safety, and peace, and in that order.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

Wow, the tough talk from the people that couldn't even kill the food that they eat.

I'm not saying its right. It's wrong. But thats whats going to happen so we might as well discuss it as such. I think killing humans is the worst way to deal with problems but here we are.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: RichardE
Pacifist never win.

Ghandi? Martin Luther King? No?...

Martin Luther King galvanized an already militant black society. You cannot speak of Martin Luther King without also speaking of Malcolm X and of the Black Panthers, and of the all black unions, and of the militant notion of black power that was bred out of the 30's and 40's.

Ghandi, I cannot discuss as in depth sadly, though I am sure you can find a militant attitude, or militant force working with the same ideas as him that gave his ideas a "bite" that words themselves just do not have.

Yes, both of those leaders and their philosophies had their roots in militant organisations, but (especially in the case of Ghandi) they were a reaction to it rather than an element of it. Either movement could easily have been wiped out by the much more powerful opposition if they had continued to use violence, but their non-violent methods made that morally and politically unacceptable. It is certainly not true that pacifists never win, and in fact, I think the only way left for the Palestinians to survive is to adopt non-violence. Israel has an excuse (although some would say not a particularly good one) to kill the civilians due to the presence of militants in their midst, but how long would it be allowed to continue if there were no more militants? How many thousands of deaths and how many destroyed homes and schools would it take before the world, even America, said enough is enough?

Well you are in agreement than with a majority of the people of Israel who would support peace and would willingly give up the land if the violence stopped.

I think Israel would have to be stopped by international pressure and possibly sanctions - they would not stop themselves. If they just wanted to kill the Hamas leaders they could have sent special forces or undercover intelligence operatives to assasinate them. It seems to me the aim is kill as many civilians as is politically acceptable. A non-violent Palestine would lower this acceptable number.

If this truce holds, if it actually becomes viable, I expect to see a two state solution rather quickly as the people of both sides want two things. Safety, and peace, and in that order.

Well I suppose we can hope for that, but the fact is there are thousands of young men in Palestine now who have just lost their parents and siblings and wives and children to Israeli bombs, and they will most likely now live only for revenge. Perhaps a Ghandi-like leader could convince these people that there is honor in non-violence as well as revenge but I don't see such a person emerging.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I said all all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons, and that includes the ones in Hamas right along side jackasses like yourself.

You can't call people bloodthirsty when you support there actions. That makes you a hypocrite now as well.

You are the hypocrite for only condemning the bloodthirsty actions of terrorists but not of tyrants, I don't condone either. However, you are so delusional that you can't even comprehend the meaning of the word "condone" so I can't rightly expect you to understand anything I say.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
I said all all the bloodthirsty and bigoted morons, and that includes the ones in Hamas right along side jackasses like yourself.

You can't call people bloodthirsty when you support there actions. That makes you a hypocrite now as well.

You are the hypocrite for only condemning the bloodthirsty actions of terrorists but not of tyrants, I don't condone either. However, you are so delusional that you can't even comprehend the meaning of the word "condone" so I can't rightly expect you to understand anything I say.

Still more personal attacks? I have expressed sympathy at the loss of life in Palestine and wish very much that Hamas fought Israel as an open army instead of hiding behind innocents. You on the other hand cheer the use of innocents by Hamas and enjoy the blood shed in your quest for a war of against Israel of what you perceive as "fair".

You are a bloodthirsty hypocrite.
 

kylebisme

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Again, you are so delusional that you can't even comprehend the meaning of the word "condone" so I can't rightly expect you to understand anything I say.

That isn't a personal attack, that is a statement of fact.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Again, you are so delusional that you can't even comprehend the meaning of the word "condone" so I can't rightly expect you to understand anything I say.

That isn't a personal attack, that is a statement of fact.

More off base remarks. It's ok and I sympathize with your lack of understand about yourself. It must be hard to have to go through a phase of self understanding where you realize you are what you hate.
 

kylebisme

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I sympathize with your inability to grasp reality, as evidenced by your inability to comprehend the meaning of the word "condone" as demonstrated here:

Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: RichardE
This entire post you have done nothing to actually condone using human shields, nor have you done anything to condone any innocents dying from the hands of Hamas...

And I have no intent of condoning anything of the sort.

"I don't condone it but I don't support it!"

:roll:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

I suppose I should just put that in a signature to demonstrate how delusional you are to others.