theflyingpig
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No one will help the Palestinians. They will voice their outrage on TV, and do nothing else. You are a fool for thinking otherwise. Your understanding of warfare is juvenile at best.
No one will help the Palestinians. They will voice their outrage on TV, and do nothing else. You are a fool for thinking otherwise. Your understanding of warfare is juvenile at best.
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Should I put links to all your support of Terrorists?
I'm glad people like you never rise to become anything in the world. Besides fodder for Israel missiles.
theflyingpig
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Lemon law
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It really depends on how Israel or the larger Arab world defines winning. As Israel becomes exactly what it was fighting when the Jewish people were being oppressed by Hitler.
In terms of my opinion, this latest Gaza incursion has done absolutely nothing except continue the same metrics of the larger 60 year struggle. We are now further from a point where Israel can find any peace and acceptance among its Arab neighbors than we were in 1948.
If the OP on this thread, RichardE wants to assert a right to accept only pro-Israeli posters and reject those that are less pro-Israeli, he can set up his own fools paradise on this thread, but it will not change either world opinion or how the struggle continues. The snowman may be correct, traditional Arab powers do not want to find terrorists aid traced to them, but that does not stop what I call larger Arab world, namely the decidedly anti- Israeli private citizens funneling private money to stateless terrorists dedicated to using higher tech arms to strike deeper and deeper into Israel.
Right now the missiles available lack the long range, guidance system, and war heads to be very effective, but anyone reading the tea leaves has to realize, those deficiencies will shift the hegemony and options more and more to the stateless terrorists advantage over the next decade or so. So at this point the last thing Israel should be doing is trying to build up the very hatreds that will inspire that very scenario and make it inevitable.
Sooner or later some just peace must be reached or the Arab Palestinian side will end up with the winning greater good for the greater number 300 million to 7 million argument. And if Israel winds up opting for the former rather than the latter, most of the concessions must be borne by Israel, because Israel has already grubbed almost 100% of what must be fairly divided.
We can either talk about the future or try to justify a non justifiable past we can not change.
In terms of my opinion, this latest Gaza incursion has done absolutely nothing except continue the same metrics of the larger 60 year struggle. We are now further from a point where Israel can find any peace and acceptance among its Arab neighbors than we were in 1948.
If the OP on this thread, RichardE wants to assert a right to accept only pro-Israeli posters and reject those that are less pro-Israeli, he can set up his own fools paradise on this thread, but it will not change either world opinion or how the struggle continues. The snowman may be correct, traditional Arab powers do not want to find terrorists aid traced to them, but that does not stop what I call larger Arab world, namely the decidedly anti- Israeli private citizens funneling private money to stateless terrorists dedicated to using higher tech arms to strike deeper and deeper into Israel.
Right now the missiles available lack the long range, guidance system, and war heads to be very effective, but anyone reading the tea leaves has to realize, those deficiencies will shift the hegemony and options more and more to the stateless terrorists advantage over the next decade or so. So at this point the last thing Israel should be doing is trying to build up the very hatreds that will inspire that very scenario and make it inevitable.
Sooner or later some just peace must be reached or the Arab Palestinian side will end up with the winning greater good for the greater number 300 million to 7 million argument. And if Israel winds up opting for the former rather than the latter, most of the concessions must be borne by Israel, because Israel has already grubbed almost 100% of what must be fairly divided.
We can either talk about the future or try to justify a non justifiable past we can not change.
Your idea is to completely kill/massacre all the palestinians.
Juvenile - immature; childish; infantile
Now, if you had an IQ greater than a door knob, how can you even come close to saying your idea of warfare is not juvenile? Instead of being strategic and finding an alternate route you want to use the "juvenile" way of just nuking the site from orbit and killing everyone. Good day.
theflyingpig
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theflyingpig
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That is not my position on how Israel should end this war. In that post, ICRS and I were merely discussing the destruction of the entire region with a series of small comets -- a highly unlikely scenario, which would clearly not be in Israel's best interest.
theflyingpig
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Originally posted by: brownzilla786
Your so smart
Yet again you fail to see why you are wrong. Keep trying brownzilla. You'll get it eventually.
Yet again you fail to see why you are wrong. Keep trying brownzilla. You'll get it eventually.[/quote]
Clearly I am misinterpreting your words. Could you please then explain your position/strategy so that I might understand? When you say "the Native Americans were fierce warriors and deserve respect,which is why the only way to defeat them was to slaughter them without mercy. This is precisely what Israel must do to permanently end this conflict" what do you really mean?
Clearly I am misinterpreting your words. Could you please then explain your position/strategy so that I might understand? When you say "the Native Americans were fierce warriors and deserve respect,which is why the only way to defeat them was to slaughter them without mercy. This is precisely what Israel must do to permanently end this conflict" what do you really mean?
Lemon law
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Lets not jump on TheFlyingpig, for citing that ICRS fantasy of , "That is not my position on how Israel should end this war. In that post, ICRS and I were merely discussing the destruction of the entire region with a series of small comets -- a highly unlikely scenario, which would clearly not be in Israel's best interest."
Better yet, lets us reject the ICRS fantasy that somehow GOD HIMSELF will intervene and like Zesus or Thor, will start throwing down thunderbolts to protect one side and confound the other. End of story, mind of GOD known, the hell with what Israeli interests are or are not, trumping it all, we must wait for GOD to intervene before we can decide what the mind of God is. And once we know the mind of GOD, all will be known and we should then all then follow.
Implicit in this ICRS stuff is that GOD can do anything, and with equal ease can call down thunderbolts on just the limited number of square miles now claimed by the State of Israel or the 1000X or better number of square miles miles claimed by surrounding Arab States.
Where does this ICRS argument get us if GOD forgets to intervene?
And the answer of course, is that Israel, having the far fewer number of square miles, is far more vulnerable to that random comet that falls from the sky. Israel needs a buffer zone they do all they can not to achieve. Leaving Israel with a nothing else but the hope their GOD will save them after that same GOD has abandoned Israel many times in the past three or four thousand years.
In someways, I have to conclude ICRS has hit the metrics nail of the struggle on the head.
Better yet, lets us reject the ICRS fantasy that somehow GOD HIMSELF will intervene and like Zesus or Thor, will start throwing down thunderbolts to protect one side and confound the other. End of story, mind of GOD known, the hell with what Israeli interests are or are not, trumping it all, we must wait for GOD to intervene before we can decide what the mind of God is. And once we know the mind of GOD, all will be known and we should then all then follow.
Implicit in this ICRS stuff is that GOD can do anything, and with equal ease can call down thunderbolts on just the limited number of square miles now claimed by the State of Israel or the 1000X or better number of square miles miles claimed by surrounding Arab States.
Where does this ICRS argument get us if GOD forgets to intervene?
And the answer of course, is that Israel, having the far fewer number of square miles, is far more vulnerable to that random comet that falls from the sky. Israel needs a buffer zone they do all they can not to achieve. Leaving Israel with a nothing else but the hope their GOD will save them after that same GOD has abandoned Israel many times in the past three or four thousand years.
In someways, I have to conclude ICRS has hit the metrics nail of the struggle on the head.
theflyingpig
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No, brownzilla, you are not misinterpreting my words, you are simply failing to see why you are wrong. It's quite funny actually.
JEDIYoda
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Ironclad prediction : Israel will be in yet another notable armed conflict in the near future. And again. And again. And again. And again.
Anyone see a pattern?
Yes I see a pattern in cthe behaior of the Palestians and other arabs who do not are about the Palestinians!
So what is your point??
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