the most overpaid players in the NBA

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RedRooster

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<< Yet another reason I love Hockey. The guys don't bitch and moan about how much they make(most of them anyways), they just worry about being on a team and getting Ice time. >>


except for Pavel Bure, Rob Blake, Jaromir Jagr, Eric Lindros etc etc...
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They play the same number of regular season games as basketball, so it can be compared relatively, as they put in the same amount of working hours. Now, list for me, 3 players, that make over $12million per, in the NHL. :)
I'll direct you here.
Notice how many players make well under $1million, unlike any other of the four major sports I'd say. :)
 

pyonir

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i wasn't disagreeing with you, i like that about hockey too. but look at the tv coverage, ticket sales, merchandise... the NBA 0wnz all of it. i was just pointing out the fact that there are players in the NHL too that are just money hungry and that is all they care about. i personally HATE the NBA. love the NHL.

edit: you don't have to point out that they make less. i know this. i'm showing there are gold-diggers everywhere.
 

RedRooster

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I hate the NBA as well, however I do appreciate it's attempt at finacial parity in the league, unlike my two favorite sports(NHL & MLB).
Not sure what my point is, I just really detest the business side of sports, and would rather not even think about it. :)
 

trmiv

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<< Yet another reason I love Hockey. The guys don't bitch and moan about how much they make(most of them anyways), they just worry about being on a team and getting Ice time. >>


except for Pavel Bure, Rob Blake, Jaromir Jagr, Eric Lindros etc etc...
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They play the same number of regular season games as basketball, so it can be compared relatively, as they put in the same amount of working hours. Now, list for me, 3 players, that make over $12million per, in the NHL. :)
I'll direct you here.
Notice how many players make well under $1million, unlike any other of the four major sports I'd say. :)
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Find the numbers on how much revenue the NHL generates, vs how much the NBA generates, and you'll know why NHL players don't make nearly what NBA players do.

Regardless of how much NBA players make, they are still just making a percentage of the basketball related income, which is a massive amount of money. Even though they get paid a lot of money, almost ridiculous money for playing a game, I don't see anything wrong with what they are being payed. The players are the reason the NBA makes money anyway, so they are entitled to a good chunk if the NBA and owner's are pulling in a lot of money.
 

pyonir

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my problem with the NBA and pro sports in general: when did it stop being about playing a sport and start being about money.
 

RedRooster

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<< The players are the reason the NBA makes money anyway, so they are entitled to a good chunk if the NBA and owner's are pulling in a lot of money. >>



I'd almost venture to say that clothing&apparel is the reason the NBA is making so much money, of course that can be traced back to player identification. But I can't see how ticket sales are pushing team revenue, half empty arenas are pretty common it seems. I can't imagine how that league is still making money, but I guess it's the very young audience that drives it(12-16 range), just like the videogame industry and everything else.
 

trmiv

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<< The players are the reason the NBA makes money anyway, so they are entitled to a good chunk if the NBA and owner's are pulling in a lot of money. >>



I'd almost venture to say that clothing&apparel is the reason the NBA is making so much money, of course that can be traced back to player identification. But I can't see how ticket sales are pushing team revenue, half empty arenas are pretty common it seems. I can't imagine how that league is still making money, but I guess it's the very young audience that drives it(12-16 range), just like the videogame industry and everything else.
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Clothing and apparel is part of it, but the TV package is a huge part of the NBA's income. The league is still making money, a lot of it. You've got to realize what a huge TV package the NBA has now (even bigger with ESPN and ABC next year), and how popular the league has become overseas.
 

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<< But I can't see how ticket sales are pushing team revenue, half empty arenas are pretty common it seems >>



$8 slices of pizza, and $6 glasses of beer at venues aren't hurting any :)
 

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<< my problem with the NBA and pro sports in general: when did it stop being about playing a sport and start being about money. >>

ummmm...when they started getting paid?
 

pyonir

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<< my problem with the NBA and pro sports in general: when did it stop being about playing a sport and start being about money. >>

ummmm...when they started getting paid?
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you know what i mean. Elgin Baylor didn't play for just the money.
 

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can you say "GUARANTEED CONTRACT". this is what's killing the NBA. they are tied into that contract no matter what the player does. not like football or baseball.

the worst situation is the KNICKS. they just can't make any trades because no one iwll be willingto take on those large contracts.
 

manly

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Aren't baseball contracts generally guaranteed as well?

Honestly, I don't understand why the teams guarantee long-term contracts, esp. for older players. It's extremely difficult to predict what type of player you'll have 5 years down the road.

Of course, with the salary growth we've seen over the past decade, it might seem like a fiscally conservative approach to "lock" players into multi-year deals.
 

SUOrangeman

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I'm glad at least one of you mentioned the owners. Didn't they gaurantee themselves 50% of the income year in and year out? If you guys are balking at what one player makes, I'd hate to see your reaction when an owner whips out his W-2s.

The players are the source of the income, the owners are keeping that income for themselves.

It's kinda like Congress giving themselves a raise ... annually.

-SUO
 

luvya

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<< my problem with the NBA and pro sports in general: when did it stop being about playing a sport and start being about money. >>

ummmm...when they started getting paid?
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you know what i mean. Elgin Baylor didn't play for just the money.
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It's always people like you who believes the old time is always better makes stupid comment like this.
Wilt Chamberlain, all he cared is his stats...yeah, he got 2 rings, but heck!! with the kind of domination he had during his time, he could collect as many as 10 rings no problem!! And whether they are gold-digging players or not, as long as they are NBA player, they are rich, and they deserve some badmouth from public.
 

BuckleDownBen

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I agree Orangeman. Its not like owners would charge less money for admission if they didn't have to pay players as much. The owners will always charge as much as they can so that they can fill the stadiums.

The big shame to me is MLB extortioning new stadiums out of communties that don't want them. Minnesota's stadium was only 20 years old. MLB says that they will "contract" the Twins. Yeah right, the Twins are one of the better franchises in baseball. There's no way that Minnesota will let that happen, but now Minnesota has to finance a 400 million dollar stadium. The players don't benefit from the new stadium, but the owners do.
 

luvya

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owners are @$$. They are rich, yet they are often adorable...take the example of dallas and lakers. Fans love their owners for getting the good players on one team. I would really love to flame on them but found it a little rootless...guess I need to research for evidence now.
 

NeoV

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get off of KG! Just because he is the highest paid player in the league doesn't mean he is overpaid...had the new contract with the players not been put into effect, there would no doubt be players making 30 to 40Mill a year...he just happened to be one of the last guys to get in before that went into effect...wait until you see his next contract!

Anyhow, he is a sensational player, all-around skills...you don't get paid just to win championships...was Jordan ever the highest paid player in the league?

And why is everyone so quick to call Vince Carter nothing but "hype" and "soft"? Does anyone remember the classic 7 game series against the 76'ers last year in the Eastern Conference championship? Perhaps he really was hurt this year, amazing how short everyone's memory is.

If you want to talk about over-paid players, the only real measure is their stats, not how well they do in the playoffs...that is a nice bonus, but if the rest of the team isn't up to snuff, one guy can't do it all in the NBA.

My vote is Penny Hardaway.
 

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<< get off of KG! Just because he is the highest paid player in the league doesn't mean he is overpaid...had the new contract with the players not been put into effect, there would no doubt be players making 30 to 40Mill a year...he just happened to be one of the last guys to get in before that went into effect...wait until you see his next contract!. >>



Because of the Larry Bird rule, teams can pay any amount to retain their free agents. That's why Shaq makes 29 mil per year.



<< Anyhow, he is a sensational player, all-around skills...you don't get paid just to win championships...was Jordan ever the highest paid player in the league? >>



Yes, he was. He made 32 mil per year his last year before he retired. This year he didn't make much.



<< If you want to talk about over-paid players, the only real measure is their stats, not how well they do in the playoffs...that is a nice bonus, but if the rest of the team isn't up to snuff, one guy can't do it all in the NBA. >>



Actually, stats are a poor indicator of a player's ability. Carter can just keep shooting til he gets his 25 points. How does this help the team? Look how well Toronto has played with Vince out with an injury.

How come people are up in arms when a pro athlete makes 10 million a year, and no one blinks an eye when CEOs make 100's of millions? Not all those CEO's companies are profitable. What about the CEO of a company that lays of 10,000 workers, and still cashes a huge paycheck? What about Tom Cruise who makes 20 million a picture?

Every single pro athlete has busted their butt to be where they are. No one is in the pros purely on god-given ability.
 

virtuamike

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KG deserves the money he gets. He plays with the most heart out of all the power forwards in the game right now and numbers won't show that. Besides you can't blame him for not getting past the first round, it's a miracle that they make the playoffs at all year in year out.
 

Miramonti

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get off of KG! Just because he is the highest paid player in the league doesn't mean he is overpaid...had the new contract with the players not been put into effect, there would no doubt be players making 30 to 40Mill a year...he just happened to be one of the last guys to get in before that went into effect...wait until you see his next contract!

Anyhow, he is a sensational player, all-around skills...you don't get paid just to win championships...was Jordan ever the highest paid player in the league?

And why is everyone so quick to call Vince Carter nothing but "hype" and "soft"? Does anyone remember the classic 7 game series against the 76'ers last year in the Eastern Conference championship? Perhaps he really was hurt this year, amazing how short everyone's memory is.

If you want to talk about over-paid players, the only real measure is their stats, not how well they do in the playoffs...that is a nice bonus, but if the rest of the team isn't up to snuff, one guy can't do it all in the NBA.

My vote is Penny Hardaway.


KG gets a helluva lotta money but this is a guy that deserves a huge contract and doesn't get injured often and brings it every nite! He's a poster child for what an nba player should be like - great character, even better game.

Scottie Pippen's at the the end of a long contract - he was deserving of the contract, but is overpaid now, but is a much bigger asset than his numbers.

Antonio McDyss is NOT overpaid. You can't predict injuries but this guy is one of the top PF's in the league when heathy, on both ends of the court!

After the '96 finals with Seattle vs. Bulls, Shawn Kemp was worth his contract, but then he became a druggie....'what could have been'...

Gotta love the free market system tho, its not the players fault for getting that money, its the owners for paying them! And if the owners are getting plenty of revs from tv and suckers who will pay what they do at the stadiums, so be it. If a player sucks and makes $10mil, more power to him - he's a successful capitalist and us other suckers are just envious and jealous.
 

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<< Yet another reason I love Hockey. The guys don't bitch and moan about how much they make(most of them anyways), they just worry about being on a team and getting Ice time. >>



I agree JL but I work for the NHL and while you don't hear them b1tch about contracts much, you should see how much they b1tch about 2nd ASSISTS!:)