The Morning after Pill

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Skoorb
If dumb bizatches would take a pill properly in the first place this wouldn't be a concern

Then we wouldn't be blessed with your prescence.

That includes raging bizatches too!

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: misle
Birth control is not over the counter and this is "two regular birth control pills sold in one package." So, why would it be OTC?

Cause hos get embarassed: and would just rather not bother with it. Sure is easier to have a crotch dumpling than go to "all the effort" of seeing your doctor.

I laughed at that...but I can't figure out why. I don't even really get it.

 

[ElFenix]

so what is to stop a girl from getting two pills from her next door neighbor?

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
so what is to stop a girl from getting two pills from her next door neighbor?

nothing, but i'm thinking there is more to the Plan B pill than just a double dosage, b/c my wife's pills are supposedly quite mild compared to some of the other pills on the market. So, when they say "double dosage" it must be a double hit of the strongest conventional pill on the market. My mom said the pills she was on back in the lat 70's were brutally strong, I'm curious if the plan B isn't something like two of those ones.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: misle
Birth control is not over the counter and this is "two regular birth control pills sold in one package." So, why would it be OTC?

Cause hos get embarassed: and would just rather not bother with it. Sure is easier to have a crotch dumpling than go to "all the effort" of seeing your doctor.

well considering that the longer you wait, the more likely ovluation will have occured (at which point it is too late), yea, a lot of "hos" would rather not have to wait a day to see the doctor and reduce their chances by 10 percent.

 

[KarenMarie]

Ok... to reply... and this medium is very limited, so I fear that I am not getting my opinions across.. here goes:

Is it better than being on a docs table in stirrups with a hose, having an abortion?
yes.
Is it safe?
I dont know how any manipulation of female hormones is "safe". Is it worth the risk to avoid the abortion? To many women, yes.

Do I have medical facts to back up my assertion that there have been more abortions, instead of being more careful to not get pregnant?
I suppose if I took a look around on google, I can find it. I do maintain, however, that as abortion became more easy to get the level of using it as a fallback have increased. I also believe that there is an increasing trend, thankfully, for young women to be more careful, about getting pregnant to begin with.

The pill... it is a manipulation of female hormones. It is 21 days of hormones being introduced into a woman's body and 7 days of not having it, which bring on their period. Pumping a large does of hormones into a woman's body to induce a period...
here is their own website, where it clearly states that if a woman is not pregnant, it will prevent it. If she is pregnant, it brings on abortion.

Again, I say it is better than the stirrups and hose... but not as good as a quarter between the knees.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Ok... to reply... and this medium is very limited, so I fear that I am not getting my opinions across.. here goes:

Is it better than being on a docs table in stirrups with a hose, having an abortion?
yes.
Is it safe?
I dont know how any manipulation of female hormones is "safe". Is it worth the risk to avoid the abortion? To many women, yes.

Do I have medical facts to back up my assertion that there have been more abortions, instead of being more careful to not get pregnant?
I suppose if I took a look around on google, I can find it. I do maintain, however, that as abortion became more easy to get the level of using it as a fallback have increased. I also believe that there is an increasing trend, thankfully, for young women to be more careful, about getting pregnant to begin with.

The pill... it is a manipulation of female hormones. It is 21 days of hormones being introduced into a woman's body and 7 days of not having it, which bring on their period. Pumping a large does of hormones into a woman's body to induce a period...
here is their own website, where it clearly states that if a woman is not pregnant, it will prevent it. If she is pregnant, it brings on abortion.

Again, I say it is better than the stirrups and hose... but not as good as a quarter between the knees.

Nice link. :roll:

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Division of American Life League, Inc.
All rights reserved.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Ok... to reply... and this medium is very limited, so I fear that I am not getting my opinions across.. here goes:

Is it better than being on a docs table in stirrups with a hose, having an abortion?
yes.
Is it safe?
I dont know how any manipulation of female hormones is "safe". Is it worth the risk to avoid the abortion? To many women, yes.

Do I have medical facts to back up my assertion that there have been more abortions, instead of being more careful to not get pregnant?
I suppose if I took a look around on google, I can find it. I do maintain, however, that as abortion became more easy to get the level of using it as a fallback have increased. I also believe that there is an increasing trend, thankfully, for young women to be more careful, about getting pregnant to begin with.

The pill... it is a manipulation of female hormones. It is 21 days of hormones being introduced into a woman's body and 7 days of not having it, which bring on their period. Pumping a large does of hormones into a woman's body to induce a period...
here is their own website, where it clearly states that if a woman is not pregnant, it will prevent it. If she is pregnant, it brings on abortion.

Again, I say it is better than the stirrups and hose... but not as good as a quarter between the knees.

no that is not their own website. that's a website put up by the "american life league" hello? there was a time at which we thought that was one of the ways it works, but it has since come out that if the woman is pregnant, the morning after pill usually doesn't do jack sh!t. it has the same chance of inducing an abortion as the regular pill does.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Nice link. :roll:

Need further information?
Copyright © 2002 American Bioethics Advisory Commission
Division of American Life League, Inc.
All rights reserved.

Just a little biased perhaps?

 

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Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: misle
Birth control is not over the counter and this is "two regular birth control pills sold in one package." So, why would it be OTC?

Cause hos get embarassed: and would just rather not bother with it. Sure is easier to have a crotch dumpling than go to "all the effort" of seeing your doctor.

well considering that the longer you wait, the more likely ovluation will have occured (at which point it is too late), yea, a lot of "hos" would rather not have to wait a day to see the doctor and reduce their chances by 10 percent.

Take the pill in the first place and no problems

 

[KarenMarie]

ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

 

[NutBucket]

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/78/95735.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

Oh, I totally believe you. Really. :roll:

Here's the info from the FDA, which is where you'd have looked in the first place if you weren't clearly just trying to spew pro-life crap in this thread.

Plan B emergency contraception

2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman?s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

Oh, I totally believe you. Really. :roll:

Here's the info from the FDA, which is where you'd have looked in the first place if you weren't clearly just trying to spew pro-life crap in this thread.

Plan B emergency contraception

2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman?s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

I am not pro life.
I am not anti abortion.
My opinion stays the same. It is better than an abortion, but not as good as being careful.

You dont believe that I made a mistake... CARE

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

Oh, I totally believe you. Really. :roll:

Here's the info from the FDA, which is where you'd have looked in the first place if you weren't clearly just trying to spew pro-life crap in this thread.

Plan B emergency contraception

2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman?s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

I am not pro life.
I am not anti abortion.
My opinion stays the same. It is better than an abortion, but not as good as being careful.

You dont believe that I made a mistake... CARE

Exactly. However, there's nothing wrong with having a backup plan JUST IN CASE. Do you have car insurance? Why is that necessary? I don't think any of us purposefully cause try to wreck cars but accidents happen.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

Oh, I totally believe you. Really. :roll:

Here's the info from the FDA, which is where you'd have looked in the first place if you weren't clearly just trying to spew pro-life crap in this thread.

Plan B emergency contraception

2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman?s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

I am not pro life.
I am not anti abortion.
My opinion stays the same. It is better than an abortion, but not as good as being careful.

Which is why they call it "Emergency Contraception".

You dont believe that I made a mistake... CARE

No, I really don't. Furthermore, I'm completely offended that you seem to think we're collectively stupid enough to think that website was some kind of "official" word on the MA pill. This is part of what pisses me off about pro-lifers; they're so desperate to "SAVE THE BABIES!!! MY GOD WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE BABIES!!" that the resort to lies and deception. Ever hear about the "Crisis Pregnancy Centers" that have popped up in recent years? Yeah, that's exactly what a woman who's pregnant and near-suicidal needs; a fake clinic staffed with pro-life assholes who will proceed to lie to and intimidate her into keeping the child. Brilliant.

 

[MrDudeMan]

JUST FYI for all of you believing Karen Marie, my girlfriend just got on birth control for medical related reasons. NONE OF THAT CRAP IS TRUE. it is NOT an abortion. it stops the egg from coming into contact with the sperm, and if it already did, you are pregnant and it WILL NOT TERMINATE IT.

also, it DOES NOT INDUCE YOUR PERIOD. i have to type some of this in caps so people will see it, so please excuse it just this once. BIRTH CONTROL DOES NOT INDUCE A PERIOD. IT STOPS IT!

my girlfriend was having 2 periods a month sometimes and she started fainting a few times a day. the pill stops the period from coming AT ALL. in the cycle, there are 4 sets of pill. the 3 sets for week 1 - 3 get stronger each week, and week 4 is a placebo. that is the week your period is supposed to start and it usually is VERY light and only lasts a few days. sometimes the 3rd week pill is so strong that the period will not start until day 5 or 6 of the 4th week, and as soon as you start week 1 of the next month the period IMMEDIATELY stops.

Karen Marie, please STFU with your bullcrap. you are totally off-base at all angles of this discussion.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: misle
Birth control is not over the counter and this is "two regular birth control pills sold in one package." So, why would it be OTC?

Cause hos get embarassed: and would just rather not bother with it. Sure is easier to have a crotch dumpling than go to "all the effort" of seeing your doctor.

well considering that the longer you wait, the more likely ovluation will have occured (at which point it is too late), yea, a lot of "hos" would rather not have to wait a day to see the doctor and reduce their chances by 10 percent.

Take the pill in the first place and no problems

i'd do it if i could... and i wish others would too, but lets face it, there are dumb, irresponsible people out there, and sometimes you just forget. i don't want another unwanted pregnancy out there.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

yes, it does make the info less true. let me tell you why.

a long time ago, when people did not understand how the morning after pill works as well, there were three hypothesized methods, the three that are shown at that site. since then, studies have conclusively shown that in the *vast* majority of cases, the morning after pill works no differently than the normal birth control pill, which is through inhibiting ovulation. the pill, and the morning after pill, can both theoretically make it difficult for a fertilized egg to implant in the uterine lining, but this happens very rarely. and it is *never* the case that an implanted egg will dislodge.

for whatever reason, pro-life organizations have chosen not to look at this new information and cling on to out-dated theories, making it seem like the morning after pill will cause a pregnancy will abort. when in reality, if you are already pregnant, that is, if the egg is already fertilized, the morning after pill is, in all likelihood, going to be useless to you.

and so, you see why believing in and spreading this blatantly incorrect information is dangerous. it makes people think the morning after pill is somehow the same as ru-486, an abortion pill. not only does this make people ignorantly opposed to the same thing as a regular birth control pill, it has dangerous implications when you consider that there are pregnant women who will believe this misinformation and make their decisions on it. i.e., they will think they can just take the morning after pill at any point in their pregnancy and end up taking it too late (3 day window).

 

[gopunk]

No, I really don't. Furthermore, I'm completely offended that you seem to think we're collectively stupid enough to think that website was some kind of "official" word on the MA pill. This is part of what pisses me off about pro-lifers; they're so desperate to "SAVE THE BABIES!!! MY GOD WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE BABIES!!" that the resort to lies and deception. Ever hear about the "Crisis Pregnancy Centers" that have popped up in recent years? Yeah, that's exactly what a woman who's pregnant and near-suicidal needs; a fake clinic staffed with pro-life assholes who will proceed to lie to and intimidate her into keeping the child. Brilliant.

the sad thing is, they aren't even saving the babies; there are no f*cking babies, or even embryos. i have no clue why pro-life organizations have chosen to take this ignorant view. it doesn't leave any conclusion other than they are just against pre-marital sex in general, and will resort to lies and deception to keep other people from having it.

 

[TheBDB]

Too bad it isn't OTC. Every guy should have a box right next to his rubbers.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: gopunk
the sad thing is, they aren't even saving the babies; there are no f*cking babies, or even embryos. i have no clue why pro-life organizations have chosen to take this ignorant view. it doesn't leave any conclusion other than they are just against pre-marital sex in general, and will resort to lies and deception to keep other people from having it.

So you're invalidating the sole reason for my sperms' existence? They have feelings too!


"It's ok boys, I still love you. You aren't worthless."

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
ok, my mistake... the link was called http://www.morningafterpill.org/index.htm and i incorrectly assumed it was theirs. I was incorrect and i apologize.

But does it make the info any less true? Or any less biased than the link above.. which states in the first sentence... I am a big advocate.

I was incorrect in thinking that it was the company's website. I apologize.

Oh, I totally believe you. Really. :roll:

Here's the info from the FDA, which is where you'd have looked in the first place if you weren't clearly just trying to spew pro-life crap in this thread.

Plan B emergency contraception

2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman?s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

I am not pro life.
I am not anti abortion.
My opinion stays the same. It is better than an abortion, but not as good as being careful.

You dont believe that I made a mistake... CARE

Exactly. However, there's nothing wrong with having a backup plan JUST IN CASE. Do you have car insurance? Why is that necessary? I don't think any of us purposefully cause try to wreck cars but accidents happen.

Not to mention that something like this would very useful to someone like a date rape victim who wasn't sexually active at the time, and had no reason to be on the pill to begin with.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Actually taking any kind of artificial hormone to replace or alter female reproduction hormones is not entirely safe. The pharm companies have done just enough research to keep their azzes out of court. What the pill does, in reality is bring on a womans period. Screws up her cycle. Now, in a one off, emergency situation, this is not the end of the world, but come on, how many women are gonna use this to replace their birth control.

Call it ignorance all you like... any time a major pharm company comes out with somethig that will alter the natural workings of a womans body, it is not a good thing.

edit: Ignorance is reading and posting only one side of an argument. Here is the opposing view for all those that want both sides. anti

if i was a woman, i would rather have my period early than give birth to a child i am incapable of caring for. hmm, slight transient personal discomfort vs. an entire screwed up life for a human being.... i wonder which one is the better choice. :roll:

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Actually taking any kind of artificial hormone to replace or alter female reproduction hormones is not entirely safe. The pharm companies have done just enough research to keep their azzes out of court. What the pill does, in reality is bring on a womans period. Screws up her cycle. Now, in a one off, emergency situation, this is not the end of the world, but come on, how many women are gonna use this to replace their birth control.

Call it ignorance all you like... any time a major pharm company comes out with somethig that will alter the natural workings of a womans body, it is not a good thing.

edit: Ignorance is reading and posting only one side of an argument. Here is the opposing view for all those that want both sides. anti

if i was a woman, i would rather have my period early than give birth to a child i am incapable of caring for. hmm, slight transient personal discomfort vs. an entire screwed up life for a human being.... i wonder which one is the better choice. :roll:

it doesnt bring on an early period. it stops it completely. she is flat out wrong.