The mobile Athlon 64 and motherboards

[jkresh]

board should be here any minute, will post once i have it up and running (i hope)

 

[Bar81]

We're all waiting

In related very good news we FINALLY have a nForce3-250 board that works properly with mobiles without anything more than a simple BIOS flash. Also, the SFF section has been updated with more info.

 

[jkresh]

just got in, has the same stupid backplate setup as the msi, so back to ascetone, yeah

 

[Arkangyl]

waiting eagarly... especially since 3200+ with 1mb L2 are getting really hard to find...

 

[jkresh]

booted fine, recognizes processor, proper speed and multiplier

 

[Illissius]

Excellent. Now someone needs to get it with a 2800+ 35W and OC the hell out of it.

 

[jkresh]

can change fsb in bios, cant find settings for processor voltage, or for multipliers or for hypertransport settings, i know they have to be there, just cant find them, once i get windows installed i will try clockgen. Another issue is they are only giving memory voltage to 2.7, i would prefer 2.85 or even 2.9. It is likely that the memory voltage will be fixed in a bios update.

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: jkresh
booted fine, recognizes processor, propere speed and multiplier

nice. Looking forward to the complete report.

 

[jkresh]

bios actualy shows all the way to 300 for fsb, still havent found voltage controls, havent tried clockgen yet. Asus's page still doenst have any info on the board (ie no updated or original bios or drivers). Any manual doesnt seem to help as while it suggests voltage control is in under a certain bios screen the picture in the manual doesnt show it so it is hidden somewhere.

 

[Arkangyl]

w00t.. figures just when this news comes out I see the Giga K8NS-Pro is DTR / Mobile supportive...

choices choices choices

 

[jkresh]

remember that the gigabyte is an nforce3 250, vs a 250gb

 

[Arkangyl]

I know but the Giga seems to be a very solid board with great OC options and known and easy volt mods. Considering I don't use SATA (at the moment) don't use giga ethernet (at the moment) and I don't need the firewall it doesn't seem like there would be a huge difference for me unless I'm forgetting something about the GB.

but if Asus get a good BIOS out or you are able to find all the OC features well; we'll se

 

[jkresh]

if you enable cool and quite get voltage and fid control. Fid goes from 4 to 10 with .5 multiples, voltage is showing all the way to 1.85, still havent found ht control though.

 

[Bar81]

the chipset multiplier?

 

[jkresh]

correct, havent seen hypertransport control, I know it has to be somewhere, but it is probalby hidden like voltage/fid control were.

 

[Arkangyl]

Bar81, you have me a little confused; at first it seemed that using a divider to keep my ram in check coupled with keeping the HTT bus under the 800mhz that the nf3-250 maxxes at would mean that I could use any FSB/HTT setting

i.e. 200x4x10 == 400x2x5

or is there something I'm missing? Point being I'm trying to decide if the 3200+ DTR is worth the $60 over the 3000+ mobile as it seems all I'm getting is the 10x multi over the 9x. If you could either clarify or offer some advice that would be great as this seems to be THE mobile thread

 

[Bar81]

I don't understand what you're asking.

 

[jkresh]

ht mutliplier is seperate from cpu multiplier (ie you could have cpu at 9 at ht at 4, or cpu at 8 and ht at 3, then you could go to 300 and have ht at 900 which should still work on an nf3).

 

[Arkangyl]

more or less I mean that if I get the 3000+ and max out with a 9x multi; as long as my hypertransport bus stays under or at what it's supposed to be my CPU should be fine regardless of it I did a 200fsb, x4 for 800mhz HTT or a 400fsb x 2 for the same 800mhz HTT.

i.e. is there a chance that my 3000+ won't do the 278 fsb needed for 2.5ghz whereas a 3200+ with only 250fsb will hit 2.5ghz?

 

[jkresh]

there is a chance that neither will hit 2.5, depending on the board you may be more likely to hit it with the 3200, but neither is gauranteed. Depends on cooling and voltage and on luck of the draw. And yes it doesnt matter whether you have ht at 2 and fsb at 400 or ht at 4 and fsb of 200 it should be fine, and you dont have to wory about 800mhz as the limit, nf3 boards can get to 900mhz and sometimes higher, so you could probably get away with an ht of 4 with an fsb over 225, and certianly to about 220, much beyond that and you may have to go to 3, though on some boards you can get to 240 and 250 at 4.

 

[dimasukr]

jkresh,
So Asus has .5 CPU multiplier?
What are memory voltage options, chipset voltage?
Is there way to force 200Mhz memory?
How it works with your 2x512 3700eb (200Mhz, 166Mhz)

 

[jkresh]

memory voltage currently only goes to 2.7
cpu goes all the way to 1.85 (havent tried anything beside stock 1.55 though)
cant force 200mhz, it is a ratio to your "fsb"
so far i am hitting a wall at 220 (regardless of sata port, memory settings or processor mutliplier) I need hypertransport control so i can try to push farther. It has to be somewhere in the bios but it may be i have to turn something on for the setting to appear.

 

[dimasukr]

2.7 for memory - that IS low.
When I asked about 200MHz memory I meant can you force 1:1 ratio in BIOS?
As to 220 limit - ht 4x should wotj just fine on 220 - I tried 4 nforce3 mobos and all worked at 220 and higher on ht x4

 

[jkresh]

you can force 1:1 in bios,
not sure why I cant go over 220, just randomly reboots if i do, though completely stable at 218.5. Possibly a bios issue or ht issue, or sata issue. Definitely not a processor or ram issue. I will try switching some other things tomorrow. It would be nice to see a review of the board or someone else with it to see if it is just my board or something i am missing in the bios.

 

[jkresh]

I think i am going to try pulling 1 of my sticks of ram out, that shouldnt make a difference as i have a cg proc, but it could, i may also try switching memory slots. I am sure as others get the board and test the settings this "Barrier" will be broken as i cant see asus realsing a board with a limit of a 10% oc (unless of course it was a 775 board with intels stupid "feautures")