The missing piece for Apple...IGZO retina panels across the board

GWestphal

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Apple iPhone 6 retina IGZO
Apple iPad Air retina IGZO
Apple Macbook Air retina IGZO (the worst offender since it doesn't even have an IPS screen)
Apple Macbook Pro retina IGZO
Apple iMac 27" retina IGZO
Apple Cinema 27" retina IGZO

Would really stream line the supply chain. People would know they will get quality viewing and only need to worry about their prospective workload. I know for me its the only think keeping me from pulling the trigger on a number of products right now. Plus for the mobile devices it would probably tack on an extra 2-3 hours of battery life since IGZO uses like 90% less power than IPS.
 
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JAG87

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By the time the switch to IGZO, there will be something better out. WOLED is already more promising than IGZO.
 

GWestphal

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Hmm, I've heard nothing of WOLED, what sort of power does it consume compared to IPS?

A cursory glance seems to indicate that washout is a bit of an issue compared to OLED. Can you comment?
 

JAG87

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I think it's supposed to be better than OLED, because the blue pixels do not generate enough light output compared with red and green wavelengths. Not sure about washout, I haven't seen one in person but from everything LG claims, it's supposed to actually have more contrast than regular OLED... we'll see I guess.

Power wise it's no contest... both WOLED and OLED are well below even IGZO, never mind standard IPS.
 

Rakehellion

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Would really stream line the supply chain.

It wouldn't streamline the supply chain because every panel is made at a different factory. Even for the same revision of the same device.

People would know they will get quality viewing and only need to worry about their prospective workload.

I really don't hear a lot of people complaining about their Apple products.
 

GWestphal

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Sharp and LG both seem to be ramping up for IGZO production at scale.

A cursory googling makes be believe that we're talking about two different things substrate and actual light emission method, right?

Substrates: a-Si, IGZO, LTPS are substrate methods with IGZO being the winner by a long shot (10% the power of a-Si).

Light Emission: LED back lighting (IPS-H/S/A), LED side lighting (IPS-H/S/A), OLED, WOLED, AMOLED (not sure how that differs from just OLED). With OLED variants being much more power efficient (40-60% of LED backlighting) than IPS except in cases where a lot of white is needed, in which case OLED can consume up to 3x as much power as compared to IPS type methods.


So IZGO+some OLED variant would be the the real winner I think. I think the IGZO part is inevitable at this stage, there doesn't seem to be any other technology that compare with it's leakage current. Which light emission part that wins will be be a toss up, if they can get the blues to last better so we can get 40,000+ hours out of them then it'll be golden.
 
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