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The Military Draft

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Not unless the US itself is invaded by a serious threat.

Otherwise it's political suicide for whatever party starts it. It'd be a mess.

It's only brought up around now to sway stupid/gullible young voters.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
That is just Kerry supporters grasping at straws...
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Funny that you should say this. I was talking with somebody the other day and they we're raising kane about how bush is certain to bring back the draft.

At that point i just said, "you're a complete moron and shouldn't have the right to vote" and left.
 
Originally posted by: JDub02
technology is at a place now where we will never need a draft. and it will only get better. better technology replaces the need for boots on the ground.

still need some boots on the ground for general control, but not nearly as many. we're just fighting a really hard war since the enemy wears no uniform. hard to tell a terrorist from a normal iraqi ... unless he's holding a rpg
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I don't disagree with your statement, but what needs to be kept in mind is that the Infantry still has to take the ground before there is a victory. You can throw Tomahawk missiles at a target until it's a smoking hole, but until the opposing forces occupy that area and plant a flag, nothing is truly gained.

 
BTW, it's Kerry who wants to put 40,000 more troops in the Army. If anyone is bringing back the draft, it's him.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Mwilding
That is just Kerry supporters grasping at straws...
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Funny that you should say this. I was talking with somebody the other day and they we're raising kane about how bush is certain to bring back the draft.

At that point i just said, "you're a complete moron and shouldn't have the right to vote" and left.
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People need to read the news. Several weeks ago there was bipartisan legislation passed that specifically prohibited the draft from being reinstated.

Also it was the democrats that brought up and were trying to reintroduce the draft to stir up fear and to try to get negative press for the current administration. They knew it wouldn't pass, but they wanted the controversy. Google it yourself.

 
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: JDub02
technology is at a place now where we will never need a draft. and it will only get better. better technology replaces the need for boots on the ground.

still need some boots on the ground for general control, but not nearly as many. we're just fighting a really hard war since the enemy wears no uniform. hard to tell a terrorist from a normal iraqi ... unless he's holding a rpg
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I don't disagree with your statement, but what needs to be kept in mind is that the Infantry still has to take the ground before there is a victory. You can throw Tomahawk missiles at a target until it's a smoking hole, but until the opposing forces occupy that area and plant a flag, nothing is truly gained.
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right, but the troop levels needed to take that smoking hole are alot less than what are needed to take a fortified position.
 
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Afrotech
draft wont come back... if our military ever really needed the troops, i believe we would see whatever prez ask for volunteers. and i truely believe many would volunteer.
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Gee that's funny, because our entire army is volunteer.
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i ment if our troop lvl was every drastically too low, i believe with a little stump speach, the prez could get more volunteers.
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I highly doubt it.

Reality is, most war "supporters" would never put their own life on the line for it.
 
Do I believe the draft could come back: Definately

Do I believe its going to comeback as the result of Iraq - NO.

The only way a draft would be brought back is a large scale conflict against
a country that can actually fight back, say Russia, China, France (oh wait a minute)
 
If Bush is re-elected, and doesn't have to worry about re-election again, do you really think the "war on terror" will stop with Iraq?
 
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Mwilding
That is just Kerry supporters grasping at straws...
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Funny that you should say this. I was talking with somebody the other day and they we're raising kane about how bush is certain to bring back the draft.

At that point i just said, "you're a complete moron and shouldn't have the right to vote" and left.
Click to expand...

People need to read the news. Several weeks ago there was bipartisan legislation passed that specifically prohibited the draft from being reinstated.

Also it was the democrats that brought up and were trying to reintroduce the draft to stir up fear and to try to get negative press for the current administration. They knew it wouldn't pass, but they wanted the controversy. Google it yourself.
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I thought it was to reinstate the draft, but it was voted down by a landslide.
 
Originally posted by: NL5
If Bush is re-elected, and doesn't have to worry about re-election again, do you really think the "war on terror" will stop with Iraq?
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Let's surely hope it doesnt. I pray that it doesnt stop there.
 
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Afrotech
draft wont come back... if our military ever really needed the troops, i believe we would see whatever prez ask for volunteers. and i truely believe many would volunteer.
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Gee that's funny, because our entire army is volunteer.
Click to expand...

i ment if our troop lvl was every drastically too low, i believe with a little stump speach, the prez could get more volunteers.
Click to expand...
I highly doubt it.

Reality is, most war "supporters" would never put their own life on the line for it.
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disagree, i come from a military family and have many ex-military friends... if the call goes out. i KNOW that they would re-enlist... they have told me that they would and i believe their word over yours.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
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Most of the people bitching are also the ones that don't understand how the electoral college works. I think they slept through some of their classes.
 
The possibility of a draft within the next four years is about nil. The possibility of another draft within our lifetimes is feasible. Rock the Vote wants to spread a bunch of propaganda for the purpose of getting voters out there.

I think it is horrible that lies are told on both sides of the fence - usually even outright lies - for the purpose of misleading the public into voting one way or the other. I think that candidates should be held accountable for thier statements.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
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Because people actually believe that CBS, The NY Times, The Washington Post, and the LA Times actually tell the truth.
 
Originally posted by: stnicralisk
The possibility of a draft within the next four years is about nil. The possibility of another draft within our lifetimes is feasible. Rock the Vote wants to spread a bunch of propaganda for the purpose of getting voters out there.

I think it is horrible that lies are told on both sides of the fence - usually even outright lies - for the purpose of misleading the public into voting one way or the other. I think that candidates should be held accountable for thier statements.
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One candidate is. Unfortunately, Democrats never are.
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: K1052
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
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Most of the people bitching are also the ones that don't understand how the electoral college works. I think they slept through some of their classes.
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exactly.
 
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: K1052
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
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Most of the people bitching are also the ones that don't understand how the electoral college works. I think they slept through some of their classes.
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exactly.
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Yea, like this moron in a CS server last night with the name "vote Kerry". Gah.

Somebody TKed him a bunch and he left though. Wasn't me!
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NL5
If Bush is re-elected, and doesn't have to worry about re-election again, do you really think the "war on terror" will stop with Iraq?
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Let's surely hope it doesnt. I pray that it doesnt stop there.
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So, when we invade (and then have to occupy) other countries, where are the troops gonna come from exactly?
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: K1052
Also, why do people think that the President can just push a large button marked "Draft" and it magically happens without any other approval?

Authorization for a draft must pass the usual hurdles in the Legislative branch before coming anywhere near the president's desk.
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Most of the people bitching are also the ones that don't understand how the electoral college works. I think they slept through some of their classes.
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The major networks should run a "How a bill becomes a law." animation before every news broadcast.
 
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: NL5
If Bush is re-elected, and doesn't have to worry about re-election again, do you really think the "war on terror" will stop with Iraq?
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Let's surely hope it doesnt. I pray that it doesnt stop there.
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So, when we invade (and then have to occupy) other countries, where are the troops gonna come from exactly?
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The armed forces silly. We have more kids joining up now than ever. They want to give back and do something for their country and make something of themselves instead of sitting on their butt.
 
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Afrotech
draft wont come back... if our military ever really needed the troops, i believe we would see whatever prez ask for volunteers. and i truely believe many would volunteer.
Click to expand...
Gee that's funny, because our entire army is volunteer.
Click to expand...

i ment if our troop lvl was every drastically too low, i believe with a little stump speach, the prez could get more volunteers.
Click to expand...
I highly doubt it.

Reality is, most war "supporters" would never put their own life on the line for it.
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disagree, i come from a military family and have many ex-military friends... if the call goes out. i KNOW that they would re-enlist... they have told me that they would and i believe their word over yours.
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I agree with you. Most of those that have been in the military trust their training and/or don't get hysterical when they are faced with the possibility of having to fight in a war. They've already had the mindset that they could or already have been called to war.Like me.
 
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