What it's turned into? Another Apple product knock-off.
You know you've been able to do all of the above on Android forever...
Exactly, a PC with a full desktop OS such as the Surface Pro does not warrant a de-rated computer discussion into the Consumer Electronics - Gadgets sub-forum.Hardly. Have you taken the time to sit down and use one? They serve different purposes, though I'd argue the Surface is the better do-it-all device.
LOL, same features or not, Android doesn't even compare to Windows 8.
Exactly, a PC with a full desktop OS such as the Surface Pro does not warrant a de-rated computer discussion into the Consumer Electronics - Gadgets sub-forum.
I've picked up an Acer W510 (thankfully not one from the first production run with the Acer announced hardware defective touchpad in the dock) and if going to start a discussion upon that Windows 8 device, I would certainly choose to place it away from here and in the Hardware & Technology - SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs forum.
I am considering the windows surface pro instead of building myself a new desktop. I figure I can use the tablet as a desktop, but be a lot more mobile (pick up and go). Is there any restrictions to the tablet? For example, would I be able to do everything the desktop can do? Can I connect a monitor/keyboard/mouse to these?
Do people think the price is worthy enough? I must have a look at the battery life is...
I've used my Surface RT as a desktop. Mouse, keyboard, HDMI out to monitor (or even DVI or VGA out if you have a micro HDMI adapter). You'll want a USB hub if you are using a bunch of USB cables, though. Pro should be even better as far as applications go, since you can use most regular x86 programs (though graphics-intense programs like the latest games will be a no-go, obviously).
The battery life on the RT is great at ~ 10 hours, but last I heard the Pro is supposed to be more along the lines of a conventional laptop/ultrabook (3-5 hours). Microsoft says battery life "half" that of Surface RT, so 5-6 hours would probably be the upper end. I just sold my RT since Windows 8 tablets are starting to show up, would love to be able to use old Windows programs. I plan on getting the Surface Pro if the price $899.
Thanks Crono, nice summary. I wouldn't be interested playing games on it, but maybe editing images sometime in the future, hopefully that would hold okay. Also, would you not prefer the $999 version... or would you not need the extra storage space?
Yeah, I'm hoping it does image editing okay, too. Full blown Photoshop would be great, but I'd settle for GIMP if it runs close to flawlessly. Ideally, I would love to run Sony Vegas if the Pro can handle it, which I guess it should since it's a Core i5 in there. I wouldn't need my desktop at all anymore.
I'm not sure whether to get the $999/128GB one. With the RT, what's bad about the 32GB version is they kind of lock you into using internal storage for apps and music (at least Xbox Music). There might be some workaround, but I couldn't use my 64GB microSD to store apps, which sucks because just installing 25-30 apps depleted the leftover space (OS uses a large chunk, nearly half).
But since the Pro starts at 64GB, I'm not sure if it's worth paying for another 64GB... but if it's not possible to store Xbox/Zune Music on a microSD, I'll probably go for the 128GB. $100 isn't a huge difference but I hate paying that much when a 64GB microSD cost me half that.
EDIT: Reading a review posted:
Looks promising, though battery life wasn't tested.
How to store your music, pictures, and video on a microSD : http://winsupersite.com/article/windows8/surface-tip-microsd-content-libraries-metro-apps-144658
I'm still expecting that these will start showing up on Woot around the same price soon... even school administrators are smart enough to stay away from these things.
ROFL... they need to pull a Xbone-eighty... drop windows 8 "Modern UI" in favor of traditional desktop schemes.
The price they launched at was aimed to give room for 3rd parties to make their own WinRT tablets and sell them for less than the Surface. OEMs never really made a go at it (understandably) so I think now Microsoft can decide to be competitive with the price but I still think that means more than $300 since the Surface is a premium device.The Metro (or whatever they want to call it) UI actually looks OK on a tablet.
It's the insanely high price tag and weak collection of Windows RT software that grinds my gears.
If this thing would have been $300 (or $350 with the keyboard) at launch it would have actually stood a chance.