The Matrix Resurrections – Official Trailer 1

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Captante

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SPOILER: WHEN DO WE STOP USING SPOILER TAGS FOR A MOVIE THAT'S OUT??


I'd say never would be the most considerate route. ;)
 
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I liked this comment on Ars Technica's review article. Seems to be a reasonably good description of why the movie fell short of expectations.

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I do like that it's fair, in ranking it a 6-7 compared to the original's 10, versus some people here saying it's the worst movie they've seen in 20 years.
Some people forget what a truly detestable movie looks like. Like an MST3K production without the commentary.
 
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I do like that it's fair, in ranking it a 6-7 compared to the original's 10, versus some people here saying it's the worst movie they've seen in 20 years.
Yeah my original review in the movie thread I said 7-8, and I'll admit I am biased since I liked the OG one so much. I even said that I thought the current (at the time) IMDB score of 6.1 was very fair.

If it's the worst movie people have seen in the past 20 years, they haven't seen many movies at all in the past 20 years.
 

Artorias

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Honestly even though Matrix 3 was not great it had a decent conclusion.

Having not watched this yet I fail to see why it needs to exist other than just trying to make some quick money.

The Matrix is really a classic, it's by far the best case of a movie releasing at the best time in history. Y2K, CGI enchantments, new camera slow motion effects, the dot com tech bubble, rise of the internet. It capitalized on the perfect storm.
 

TheVrolok

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Honestly even though Matrix 3 was not great it had a decent conclusion.

Having not watched this yet I fail to see why it needs to exist other than just trying to make some quick money.

The Matrix is really a classic, it's by far the best case of a movie releasing at the best time in history. Y2K, CGI enchantments, new slow move effects, the dot com tech bubble, the rise of the internet. It capitalized on the perfect storm.
It still really holds up, too, IMHO
 

Pohemi

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Like an MST3K production without the commentary.
Perhaps, eventually, it will get the Rifftrax treatment. They did the original Matrix, though I've not seen it. Rifftrax is amusing, but not quite the same without Joel/Mike and the robots.
 

Skel

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I liked this comment on Ars Technica's review article. Seems to be a reasonably good description of why the movie fell short of expectations.

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I agree with this.. though the fight scenes might have been a case of Bourne killing it. I read an article years ago about how Jason Bourne ruined martial arts in action movies with it's shaky cam, quick cuts fight scenes. Ever since then almost every action movies I've seen has gone with that style. It def feels more of the rule now to me. I also understand Keanu had scheduling issues, I think they could have figured it out if they wanted to. Like the rest of the movie it was more of a mail it in and make it like every other generic summer movie out there.
 
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It is obvious that most people who hate this movie completely fail to understand it, and it's creator.
The movie was an amazing work of art addressing love, the failure of mental health care for neuro/gender-divergent people, and the tearing down of the prisons we build for ourselves (and how the whole world will violently abuse us when we actually do tear that prison down). Hint: That's why ALL the original aesthetic from the first 3 movies is so blatantly and intentionally missing. Including the choreographed fight scenes.

This is a great article that addresses some of this and lets you look at the movie with new eyes. Eyes that understand Lana was fully intending to tear everything down from the first movie. To escape from the prison of her original aesthetic.

Being somewhat neurodivergent myself, the analyst scenes equating good mental health with just masking your true self was all too real.

Ironically, that was the entire purpose of the first three movies: Breaking free from the prison society puts us in. Breaking free from being forced to mask our true selves.
And now people are mad at Lana for doing JUST THAT.


 
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It is obvious that most people who hate this movie completely fail to understand it, and it's creator.
The movie was an amazing work of art addressing love, the failure of mental health care for neuro/gender-divergent people, and the tearing down of the prisons we build for ourselves (and how the whole world will violently abuse us when we actually do tear that prison down). Hint: That's why ALL the original aesthetic from the first 3 movies is so blatantly and intentionally missing. Including the choreographed fight scenes.

This is a great article that addresses some of this and lets you look at the movie with new eyes. Eyes that understand Lana was fully intending to tear everything down from the first movie. To escape from the prison of her original aesthetic.

Being somewhat neurodivergent myself, the analyst scenes equating good mental health with just masking your true self was all too real.

Ironically, that was the entire purpose of the first three movies: Breaking free from the prison society puts us in. Breaking free from being forced to mask our true selves.
And now people are mad at Lana for doing JUST THAT.


I thought the trans allegory was a bit more obvious this time around, I even said something about it to my partner while we were watching it.
 

ivwshane

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It is obvious that most people who hate this movie completely fail to understand it, and it's creator.
The movie was an amazing work of art addressing love, the failure of mental health care for neuro/gender-divergent people, and the tearing down of the prisons we build for ourselves (and how the whole world will violently abuse us when we actually do tear that prison down). Hint: That's why ALL the original aesthetic from the first 3 movies is so blatantly and intentionally missing. Including the choreographed fight scenes.

This is a great article that addresses some of this and lets you look at the movie with new eyes. Eyes that understand Lana was fully intending to tear everything down from the first movie. To escape from the prison of her original aesthetic.

Being somewhat neurodivergent myself, the analyst scenes equating good mental health with just masking your true self was all too real.

Ironically, that was the entire purpose of the first three movies: Breaking free from the prison society puts us in. Breaking free from being forced to mask our true selves.
And now people are mad at Lana for doing JUST THAT.



No, I picked up on that as pretty much anything the film was trying to get across was so blatant and obvious that it felt like they were talking down to the audience.

It’s cool that you like the movie and all the forced feeding it was doing. But as a matrix movie it was horrible.
 
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Matrix 1 was an awesome, awesome film. I mean, awesome.

2 and 3 sucked. Bad.

I heard 4 sucked HARD, and reading this thread yall pretty much confirmed it.

Thank you ATOT.
 

TheVrolok

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It is obvious that most people who hate this movie completely fail to understand it, and it's creator.
The movie was an amazing work of art addressing love, the failure of mental health care for neuro/gender-divergent people, and the tearing down of the prisons we build for ourselves (and how the whole world will violently abuse us when we actually do tear that prison down). Hint: That's why ALL the original aesthetic from the first 3 movies is so blatantly and intentionally missing. Including the choreographed fight scenes.

This is a great article that addresses some of this and lets you look at the movie with new eyes. Eyes that understand Lana was fully intending to tear everything down from the first movie. To escape from the prison of her original aesthetic.

Being somewhat neurodivergent myself, the analyst scenes equating good mental health with just masking your true self was all too real.

Ironically, that was the entire purpose of the first three movies: Breaking free from the prison society puts us in. Breaking free from being forced to mask our true selves.
And now people are mad at Lana for doing JUST THAT.



Dude. It was incredibly obvious. This film was just as "non subtle" as Don't Look Up. Just didn't work for me. The performances were so uninspired, pacing was bizarre.
 
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Dude. It was incredibly obvious. This film was just as "non subtle" as Don't Look Up. Just didn't work for me. The performances were so uninspired, pacing was bizarre.

That's cool.
Unfortunately, in the current world subtlety misses the majority of the population. It's a lost art for a population who doesn't get it.
 

TheVrolok

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That's cool.
Unfortunately, in the current world subtlety misses the majority of the population. It's a lost art for a population who doesn't get it.
Between straight to streaming (with limited theater release to keep awards open) and Marvel's proven formula to print money it will be interesting to see where the movie industry is in a decade. Audience dynamics are getting pretty complicated.
 

Torn Mind

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Boring things are meaningless as the message simply never gets delivered.

And unlike subjects like math, a boring movie is just a boring movie.

With that said, I’m getting more curious to actually watch the movie in a “freely obtained” manner because textual responses can be insufficient.

If the backstory is true, this thing might have been on its way to getting shelved but the cast wanted it finished....so if it seems uninspired...the director very well might have been going through the motions.
 
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Boring things are meaningless as the message simply never gets delivered.

And unlike subjects like math, a boring movie is just a boring movie.

With that said, I’m getting more curious to actually watch the movie in a “freely obtained” manner because textual responses can be insufficient.

If the backstory is true, this thing might have been on its way to getting shelved but the cast wanted it finished....so if it seems uninspired...the director very well might have been going through the motions.
It won't be free, trust me. You will regret wasting your precious time on it. Watch it on a day when you want to kill yourself from boredom. Even then, you may not be able to watch it in a single sitting. I've only been able to get to the 1:33:00 mark so far. All I kept thinking was, does anyone at WB have half a brain to have let this see the light of day?
 

Starbuck1975

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Finally had a chance to sit down and see it, such a lost opportunity, only because there were so many promising ideas that weren’t given a chance to breathe. I actually quite enjoyed the first 40 minutes or so. The setup and world building was really interesting, its unfortunate that the second half of the movie didn’t stick the landing.

I wish they spent more time exploring the machine civil war, and the premise of that alone opened the door to so many other ideas. It’s too bad, because the chemistry between Neo and Trinity was more convincing in this movie than the OT.

I think what was most lacking was a sense of danger. The villains were cameos, not threats. The first half was a Matrix movie, the second half was Last Jedi.
 

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Boring things are meaningless as the message simply never gets delivered.

And unlike subjects like math, a boring movie is just a boring movie.

With that said, I’m getting more curious to actually watch the movie in a “freely obtained” manner because textual responses can be insufficient.

If the backstory is true, this thing might have been on its way to getting shelved but the cast wanted it finished....so if it seems uninspired...the director very well might have been going through the motions.
The bottom line is that it isn't very entertaining. It was a ho-hum movie that never coalesced.
 

Skel

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It is obvious that most people who hate this movie completely fail to understand it, and it's creator.
The movie was an amazing work of art addressing love, the failure of mental health care for neuro/gender-divergent people, and the tearing down of the prisons we build for ourselves (and how the whole world will violently abuse us when we actually do tear that prison down). Hint: That's why ALL the original aesthetic from the first 3 movies is so blatantly and intentionally missing. Including the choreographed fight scenes.

This is a great article that addresses some of this and lets you look at the movie with new eyes. Eyes that understand Lana was fully intending to tear everything down from the first movie. To escape from the prison of her original aesthetic.

Being somewhat neurodivergent myself, the analyst scenes equating good mental health with just masking your true self was all too real.

Ironically, that was the entire purpose of the first three movies: Breaking free from the prison society puts us in. Breaking free from being forced to mask our true selves.
And now people are mad at Lana for doing JUST THAT.



When I see posts like this one I have to wonder if I saw the same movie, or you're just trying to troll people.. As for the article, it reads like someone trying to make the movie way more deeper than even the creators appeared to. If that's your thing, the overthinking/over analyzing, mental back-flipping to make your love of the movie work with the distinct lack of anything other than a generic popcorn movie, please have at it. Just don't think because other people aren't trying to do the creator's work for them mentally that they don't get it.