The Matrix in HD?

[James3shin]

HDTV usually support some form of progressive scannning. Whether its 480p, 720p, or the recent 1080p depends on the HDTV.

 

[HN]

in 1920x1080 you can see the strings

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: HN
in 1920x1080 you can see the strings

That looks quite grainy/pixellated. I'd think that's just an upscale of a lower resolution image...

 

[James3shin]

OOH! Nice CAP HN. Is that on a 2005fpw or 2405fpw?

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: SonicIce
720x480 is 3:2. Why are there so many differant widescreen aspect ratios like 16:10 and 3:2? I though all film was 16:9? Would that mean its stretched or cropped when on a non-16:9 display?

You'll have to ask Jello or someone else about that, I don't know why the pixel count doesn't match up with the aspect ratio. It may be non-square pixels or it may have something to do with the "anamorphic" widescreen stuff, I really don't know.

And no, film is usually not 16:9, actually. There are many different ratios used for film/movies...1.85:1, 2.35:1, etc. Usually it's still letterboxed on a 16:9 display (just as 16:9 stuff is ever so slightly letterboxed on my 16:10 monitor).

They came up with the 16:9 by averaging out all of the various ratios that are used in films.

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: HN
in 1920x1080 you can see the strings

That looks quite grainy/pixellated. I'd think that's just an upscale of a lower resolution image...

video source properties shows 1920. i'll get one of morpheus' mug and all it's sweat and pores when i get home

Originally posted by: James3shin
OOH! Nice CAP HN. Is that on a 2005fpw or 2405fpw?

2405

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: HN

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: HN
in 1920x1080 you can see the strings

That looks quite grainy/pixellated. I'd think that's just an upscale of a lower resolution image...

video source properties shows 1920. i'll get one of morpheus' mug and all it's sweat and pores when i get home

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: SonicIce
Whats the resolution of a standard 16:9 DVD?

720x480, I believe.

480i actually

unless its in pro-scan then its 480p

movies look decent on 480p

Isn't it just getting de-interlaced by the DVD player?

Yeah, DVDs themselves are all 480i.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: HN
video source properties shows 1920. i'll get one of morpheus' mug and all it's sweat and pores when i get home

What is the video source though, judging from the blur I'm pretty sure it was just recorded upscaled from a lower resolution source.

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: HN
video source properties shows 1920. i'll get one of morpheus' mug and all it's sweat and pores when i get home

What is the video source though, judging from the blur I'm pretty sure it was just recorded upscaled from a lower resolution source.

.ts file(s) labeled 1080p. beyond that, i don't know much about it as a little bird dropped it off.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: HN
video source properties shows 1920. i'll get one of morpheus' mug and all it's sweat and pores when i get home

What is the video source though, judging from the blur I'm pretty sure it was just recorded upscaled from a lower resolution source.

That's what my first impression was. I've seen much higher quality 1080i/p stuff than that. I guess we'll see though.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

You can see the strings at 480i too.

 

[HN]

some more shots to peruse:

morpheus 1

morpheus 2

neo 1

 

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: HN
some more shots to peruse:

morpheus 1

morpheus 2

neo 1

Man! FVCK YOU AND YOUR 2405FPW!!!.....I want one so bad.

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: James3shin

Man! FVCK YOU AND YOUR 2405FPW!!!.....I want one so bad.

:beer::thumbsup::laugh:

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: HN
some more shots to peruse:

morpheus 1

morpheus 2

neo 1

:thumbsup:

If only I had a source for such transport streams...

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: HN
some more shots to peruse:

morpheus 1

morpheus 2

neo 1

Man! FVCK YOU AND YOUR 2405FPW!!!.....I want one so bad.

 

[kylebisme]

Yeah I'm pretty sure those shots aren't upscaled, I think the first one just threw me off due to the low contrast of the sceen and motion blur.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah I'm pretty sure those shots aren't upscaled, I think the first one just threw me off due to the low contrast of the sceen and motion blur.

Well the ones HN just posted look upscaled to me. I see that sort of effect when I plug my HDTV tuner to my 1280x1024 LCD. Look at the cord in the first picture...I'm pretty sure the aliasing isn't JPEG artifacts.

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: HN

Originally posted by: James3shin

Man! FVCK YOU AND YOUR 2405FPW!!!.....I want one so bad.

:beer::thumbsup::laugh:

You think he's got it good... You should see it on my 17inch laptop lcd at 1900x1200

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: crazySOB297
You think he's got it good... You should see it on my 17inch laptop lcd at 1900x1200

*drool*...I want my desktop LCD to have small dot pitch.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Those 1920x1080 shots still aren't that spectacular, because The Matrix wasn't filmed with HD in mind. Now the Matrix sequels or a movie like Batman Begins will be perfect for 1080p (the first Matrix was filmed in regular 35mm film and when it was upscaled to IMAX film the result was less than stellar. Fun on the big screen, but grainy picture, the sequels were filmed on IMAX's 70mm film, as was Batman Begins, thus there was no need to upscale for the higher resolution screen). Batman Begins on an IMAX screen was absolutely amazing, I'm going to need to get a better TV/monitor for the HD release.

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Batman Begins on an IMAX screen was absolutely amazing, I'm going to need to get a better TV/monitor for the HD release.

That's the one thing i regret not doing this summer. loved the movie but just didn't have the time to hit it up on the IMAX. That must have been some experience!
:jealous;

 

[kylebisme]

It would be really cool in a real dome style IMAX theater, I saw the film at the AMC and it was just a really big high quality picture but in a huge theater that I had to sit near the back of. It wasn't really that impressive like that.

As for the alising xtknight mentioned, I think he was right. I orginally just looked at the picture on my ED plasma running my desktop at 1280x720 which obviously isn't the best way to judge such things, but draging the pic over to my CRT monitor I see noticeable signs of upscaling. And while it is true that 35mm film isn't rightly HD in itself, it is an anlog format and shouldn't show alising like in that shot if it was transfered straight to 1080p.

 

[Sonikku]

4x3 DVD's are in 640x480 interlaced. (at least in the United States with the NTSC standard)
16x9 DVD's are in 854x480 interlaced. (see above)

Also, the movies in HDTV on channels like HBO, MAX, Showtime Ect. are often cropped to fit the 16x9 aspect ratio.
The Star Wars films, Matrix films, LOTR films, Bladerunner and many, many more are in 2.35:1. To fill the modern HD tv it is cropped to 1.78:1. (AKA 16x9)
I would not worry too much of not having true HD material just yet. If you have a good PC with a top notch DVD decoder you'll probably fine the upscaling is so good that you might not be able to notice.