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Blackjack200

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This. As for goalie gear, lemme tell you what's the #1 thing I hate about Lacrosse. From what I see, the goalie has no chance at saving anything. It's basically a score fest. I would hate the NHL to turn into the same thing.

Lacrosse nets are much bigger than hockey nets, and lacrosse players can release their shot from almost any angle. I don't think smaller pads would cause a scoring fest in the NHL, although I don't know if smaller pads is the right answer.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Calling Fail on my suggestions is fine. That is, until you say something as Failerific as the bolded statement above. FAIL.

Yep, it would change football forever. Mostly back to the 90% rushing game it was devised as, which was more exciting to watch. Also, imagine the mad scrambles for dropped passes! Fail my ass, you just have no imagination. Fuck, give them swords and shit too. In fact we could just replace all pro sports with Gladiators.
 

shocksyde

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Yep, it would change football forever. Mostly back to the 90% rushing game it was devised as, which was more exciting to watch. Also, imagine the mad scrambles for dropped passes! Fail my ass, you just have no imagination. Fuck, give them swords and shit too. In fact we could just replace all pro sports with Gladiators.

Now you've got my peen0r tingling!
 

IndyColtsFan

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Several good thoughts in this thread. I'll agree with the posters who said that if the NBA and MLS shut down tomorrow, no one would care. The NBA is such a joke -- the Pacers are threatening to leave town if Indy doesn't come up with the operating expenses for their arena every year, and no one cares if they leave. That's what happens when you have a weak commissioner who only cares about short term dollars and doesn't think about the future. Had Stern taken measures to clean up the thug image of the NBA years ago, people might care.

Thank god the NFL has had good commissioners.
 

oogabooga

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I get the argument for overtime win pts in hockey regular season being overvalued, I just don't know what changes would be 'best'.

I personally wouldn't mine a 3/2/1/0 pt system for regular season win/over time win/overtime loss/loss ala the olympics (I think that's how it is done). I'd prefer it over a 2 for a win, 1 for OT win, 0 for any loss I think.

lol... words fail me

do whatever you want with other sports. leave hockey alone :p

I think there are changes that could make hockey better.

Remove the lines/icing/offsides... is not one of them though :p
 

cheezy321

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Yep, it would change football forever. Mostly back to the 90% rushing game it was devised as, which was more exciting to watch. Also, imagine the mad scrambles for dropped passes! Fail my ass, you just have no imagination. Fuck, give them swords and shit too. In fact we could just replace all pro sports with Gladiators.

An all rushing game is exciting to watch? Where are we, bizarro world? It would be absolutely horrible and nobody would ever score. It would make kickers the most important player on a team.

Terrible, terrible idea.
 

meltdown75

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I get the argument for overtime win pts in hockey regular season being overvalued, I just don't know what changes would be 'best'.

I personally wouldn't mine a 3/2/1/0 pt system for regular season win/over time win/overtime loss/loss ala the olympics (I think that's how it is done). I'd prefer it over a 2 for a win, 1 for OT win, 0 for any loss I think.



I think there are changes that could make hockey better.

Remove the lines/icing/offsides... is not one of them though :p

whoever wants that done can just play NHL 10 with no offsides... get your jollies there
 

cheezy321

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I agree with just getting rid of baseball. By far the most boring sport to watch.
 

Blackjack200

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lol... words fail me

do whatever you want with other sports. leave hockey alone :p

Come on, at the very least you have to get rid of that hiddeous trapezoid behind the goals. That, the automatic penalty for flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone, and no line changes on icings are terrible rules.
 

meltdown75

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Come on, at the very least you have to get rid of that hiddeous trapezoid behind the goals. That, the automatic penalty for flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone, and no line changes on icings are terrible rules.
i don't care much for the trapezoid either... the puck flip penalty doesn't bother me. a team that ices the puck isn't allowed a line change because it's a way of penalizing icing... if they didn't have that penalty, teams would be allowed a line change on every icing call... that would get them fresh guys out there... i don't think that would be fair IMHO
 

Kntx

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Come on, at the very least you have to get rid of that hiddeous trapezoid behind the goals. That, the automatic penalty for flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone, and no line changes on icings are terrible rules.

Trapezoid - Agree. let the goalie play the puck.

D.O.G. - I forget how this rule worked before, but I think a D-zone faceoff with no line changes would be better than the penalty.

No Line change on Icing: this is a great rule. The annoying thing is the teams try to cheat and give themselves a rest.
 

meltdown75

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lol the "Brodeur" rule :D

New in the 2005–06 season, after testing in the American Hockey League, is a trapezoid behind each goalie net. The goalie can only play the puck within that area or in front of the goal line. If he plays the puck behind the goal line and not in the trapezoid, a 2 minute minor penalty for delay of game will be assessed by the referees. This rule is widely referred to as the "Brodeur rule," after New Jersey Devils goalie Martin Brodeur, whose puckhandling behind the net is believed to be the cause for the rule.[1][2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hockey_League_rules
 

JEDI

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- Quarterbacks are not made out of glass
- Prevent defense should be outlawed

Huh?

esplain pls

why do u want glass qbs?
whats prevent defense?
 

oogabooga

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Trapezoid - Agree. let the goalie play the puck.

D.O.G. - I forget how this rule worked before, but I think a D-zone faceoff with no line changes would be better than the penalty.

No Line change on Icing: this is a great rule. The annoying thing is the teams try to cheat and give themselves a rest.

Trapezoid : I don't care for it. I guess it's to increase the 'flow' of the game by preventing goalies from playing these pucks? I think no touch icing would have been better to 'speed up' the game and letting the goalie play non iced pucks.

No line change on icing is a good rule.

Playing the puck over the glass: I don't really know about a delay of game penalty on it. It should be punished, it should probably be more severe than what is given for icing the puck but I think giving a team a powerplay for it is a bit much.
 

BeauJangles

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designated hitter is ruining the game. the pitcher is a player on the field, he should hit. only a mickey mouse expansion league would advocate the designated hitter.

DH also makes the games take longer. want a shorter game? go back to making the pitcher hit.

That's your solution to long games?

The only way MLB will shorten the lengths of games is to expand the strike zone again. Go back to the way it was in the 40s or 50s and you'll see two things: (1) much shorter games and (2) fewer hits and fewer base runners. The problem with MLB is that they want the big time offenses, but then get their panties in a bunch when those offenses (OMG STUNNER HERE) are patient at the plate, don't swing at balls outside of the zone, and force pitchers to give them balls to drive.
 

shocksyde

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- Quarterbacks are not made out of glass
- Prevent defense should be outlawed

Huh?

esplain pls

why do u want glass qbs?
whats prevent defense?

I want glass QBs so that I can drill holes in them and smoke skunky buds out of their dome pieces.

In reality, I mean they don't need as much protection as the league gives them.
 

SludgeFactory

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By far the worst part of the NBA is the way they've built their business around individual "superstars," teams and team-play be damned. They've corrupted their entire sport with blatant, league-endorsed favoritism for slashing/flashy/highlight-reel shooting guards. The officiating and the way the rulebook is subjectively enforced is simply biased and corrupt.

I guess I'm the embodiment of insanity, when I continue to watch this crap and hope for a different result. The refs don't even attempt to hide it behind a hint of impartiality any more.
 

shortylickens

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The biggest problem with the basketball and football is it long ago stopped being a sport and starting being a business. Thats not so bad in itself. Whats bad is even the average idiot American can see its obviously a business. Thats whats killing it. Its so damn obvious to everyone they have over commercialized it. Big surprise you have so many rich, spoiled assholes playing.
And for all the guys who miss Michael, remember, he was the first guy to really start selling himself as a product. Hanes underwear. His own cologne. Etc. Etc. Etc. He is probably the number one reason its so fucked up now. The reason its a business & media circus and not a sport.

Baseball? Nothing new. Same thing thats always been wrong. Way too much standing around jerking off. There should be like a 20 second limit from the time the pitcher gets the ball back that he has to size up the batter and make the pitch. In fact 20 seconds may be excessive. And the fucking catcher doesn't need to inspect the ball with his anus for a whole minute after each pitch. His eyes are good enough and probably do the job in less time besides.

Hockey, nothing wrong. Maybe needs more blood but thats all.

Soccer? It was never gonna be big here anyways. So it doesn't need to be analyzed and criticized.

NASCAR has the same problems as the others. Too much commercialization, not enough action. The racing itself is boring until the last lap. They need to figure out a way to make more action on each lap, and make each lap more valuable, probably by trimming the number down a lot. Like 9/10ths.
 

shocksyde

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There should be like a 20 second limit from the time the pitcher gets the ball back that he has to size up the batter and make the pitch. In fact 20 seconds may be excessive.

I think there's a new rule where the pitcher should take 12 seconds or less to throw the ball after they get it. I can't find any info online, I think I heard it from one of the commentators during a game. Could be mistaken.
 

Linflas

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Fail.

NFL - The removal of all pussyfication rules. I also think the game would improve dramatically if the ball was always live until the whistle. By this I mean, there would no longer be such a thing as an incomplete pass; the ball is live on the ground. Remove replay.

You do realize that a lot of the rules in football evolved to keep the game from being outlawed in the early days because so many players were being killed or badly injured? If the ball was live the way you suggest then every incomplete pass play would end up in a pile of 22 men that the refs would have to peel away one by one much the way they do on a fumble.
 

Linflas

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I think there's a new rule where the pitcher should take 12 seconds or less to throw the ball after they get it. I can't find any info online, I think I heard it from one of the commentators during a game. Could be mistaken.

This? MLB to test proposed rules in Minors Length of time pitcher takes to deliver ball under scrutiny

Current rule:
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When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.” The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.
The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.
 
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