"the lord of the rings: the rings of power" is out on amazon

[MrSquished]

What gave it away Sherlock, the fact that I said the whole season was "meh" ?

Not at all. You can be into LOTR and not love the show as well. But it's plainly obvious you have zero interest in the LOTR universe at all.

 

[UsandThem]

What gave it away Sherlock, the fact that I said the whole season was "meh" ?

 

[BoomerD]

 

[linkgoron]

This post contains spoilers for the whole season.

Well, I think that it was watchable, but IMO it was just kind of dumb. The series lacked ingenuity and in some places was just stupid, and the pacing was off.

Bringing back Gandalf and the hobbits was too fan-servicey and too slow (I assume that they can still change it later to one of the other wizards), the whole Mithril plot was just dumb, as they basically didn't explain why the elves are dying and afterwards didn't explain how the rings fix things, Durin's plotline basically meant nothing in the end as they just managed with their original nothing amount, Celebrimbor is supposedly the second best smith ever doesn't even think on how to improve alloys and as they wanted the Wizard to be "Sauron" bit, the nothing plot-line of the Harfoots to end with a rush on the last episode.

I liked Adar as a villian, I liked Arondir and his plotline mostly, and the whole Dwarves plotline as well (Especially Durin). They should have, IMO, just went with a more robust Mithril/Elves/Dwarves plot-line and southlands plot-line, and have the orcs returning make the southlands go to Numenor for aid. If they really wanted Galadriel, maybe have her pop up in the southlands once the Elves hear of Adar, thinking that he's Sauron. Sauron, IMO, should have already been with the Elves in some advising capacity, pushing for the creation of the rings. Once Sauron reveals himself end the season with a comet hitting the earth or something, but that would have ruined the "You're Sauron!!!" bit.

I do think, however, that things can be fixed, and LOTR has a lot of things that can be done inside of it even without The Silmarillion content. A lot of shows had way worse first-seasons and became great. There is a nugget for greatness, they just need to hold back on the fan service (Harfoots Hobbits, Gandalf, Balrog, too much Galadriel).

 

[MrSquished]

This post contains spoilers for the whole season.

Well, I think that it was watchable, but IMO it was just kind of dumb. The series lacked ingenuity and in some places was just stupid, and the pacing was off.

Bringing back Gandalf and the hobbits was too fan-servicey and too slow (I assume that they can still change it later to one of the other wizards), the whole Mithril plot was just dumb, as they basically didn't explain why the elves are dying and afterwards didn't explain how the rings fix things, Durin's plotline basically meant nothing in the end as they just managed with their original nothing amount, Celebrimbor is supposedly the second best smith ever doesn't even think on how to improve alloys and as they wanted the Wizard to be "Sauron" bit, the nothing plot-line of the Harfoots to end with a rush on the last episode.

I liked Adar as a villian, I liked Arondir and his plotline mostly, and the whole Dwarves plotline as well (Especially Durin). They should have, IMO, just went with a more robust Mithril/Elves/Dwarves plot-line and southlands plot-line, and have the orcs returning make the southlands go to Numenor for aid. If they really wanted Galadriel, maybe have her pop up in the southlands once the Elves hear of Adar, thinking that he's Sauron. Sauron, IMO, should have already been with the Elves in some advising capacity, pushing for the creation of the rings. Once Sauron reveals himself end the season with a comet hitting the earth or something, but that would have ruined the "You're Sauron!!!" bit.

I do think, however, that things can be fixed, and LOTR has a lot of things that can be done inside of it even without The Silmarillion content. A lot of shows had way worse first-seasons and became great. There is a nugget for greatness, they just need to hold back on the fan service (Harfoots Hobbits, Gandalf, Balrog, too much Galadriel).

I don't see the big issue with the Harfoots. The hobbits are literally the most integral part of LOTR so I think it's a fair play to 'create' their predecessors, as long as it's done well enough, which I think they have.

I can see people that are not familiar with LOTR not liking them as they would be like meeting ewoks without ever having seen the original start wars trilogy.

But these Harfoots are not as silly as ewoks.

 

[UsandThem]

I liked the first season for the most part.

Some pacing issues for sure, but that can be fixed for upcoming seasons (like The Witcher series did).

However, I really wish I would have watched The Lord Of The Rings movies again before watching this series. It has been at least 10 years (maybe even 15 years) since I last watched them, so I had forgotten many of the character's names and the history).

Even with the pacing issues, it was much balanced than the Star Wars Andor series has been.

 

[linkgoron]

I don't see the big issue with the Harfoots. The hobbits are literally the most integral part of LOTR so I think it's a fair play to 'create' their predecessors, as long as it's done well enough, which I think they have.

I can see people that are not familiar with LOTR not liking them as they would be like meeting ewoks without ever having seen the original start wars trilogy.

But these Harfoots are not as silly as ewoks.

I just think that it was mostly too slow and spread too thin between the episodes. Almost nothing happens between the first and last episode, it wasn't related in any way to the other plots, and it still took time away from the other plots. I get that it's obviously buildup to the next season, but IMO it just didn't have enough content by itself to be included in this season. We learned basically nothing that we didn't already know in the first or second episode. It was nice learning about the culture of the Harfoots, and how the world is dangerous for them, but it looks like we'll just take two characters with us to the next season. We should've had them leaving in the fifth or sixth episode, and had them at least travel some distance to Rhun.

 

[eelw]

Really don’t get the pacing complaint when those same people proclaim the first 3 movies to be so epic. Like holy crap the movies had so much filler also. And I’m not even talking about the extended editions.

 

[MrSquished]

Really don’t get the pacing complaint when those same people proclaim the first 3 movies to be so epic. Like holy crap the movies had so much filler also. And I’m not even talking about the extended editions.

I really enjoyed season one, but I do think the pacing could be just slightly improved, and they could tie a bit more action to some events.

But this is a 5 season show so they have time to really show interconnected events and character interweaving much more in depth

 

[zinfamous]

I really enjoyed season one, but I do think the pacing could be just slightly improved, and they could tie a bit more action to some events.

But this is a 5 season show so they have time to really show interconnected events and character interweaving much more in depth

Consider that there was way more action and "stuff happening" in this one season of LotR than the first 2.5 seasons of GoT, but probably no one complains about that because their brains were satisfied with vaginas and gore to fill in those gaps with GoT.

But yeah, I don't get it either. This is if nothing else pretty much what you should be prepared for with LoTR, and I think it moved way faster than the movies.

Again, I'm one that doesn't give a tit about hobbits ever and feel that they ruin everything, but they are essential in this world and you have to expect them to come with it.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Watched the finale last night and big fat ... "meh" ... for the whole season. It really only had one really good episode, the 6th one, and that was about it. I thought the finale in general was weak as shit for a finale. We found out who 2 people are and the rings were forged. Whoopidity doo.

And the harfoots are the worst fucking thing ever to make it onto my TV.

Something tells me you don't like lotr in general.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Consider that there was way more action and "stuff happening" in this one season of LotR than the first 2.5 seasons of GoT, but probably no one complains about that because their brains were satisfied with vaginas and gore to fill in those gaps with GoT.

But yeah, I don't get it either. This is if nothing else pretty much what you should be prepared for with LoTR, and I think it moved way faster than the movies.

Again, I'm one that doesn't give a tit about hobbits ever and feel that they ruin everything, but they are essential in this world and you have to expect them to come with it.

I think that while some people would argue otherwise, what they really want is just garbage action scenes with some tits and/or brief crying in between. I'd wager most of the same people would have trouble sitting through a book.

 

[MrSquished]

I think that while some people would argue otherwise, what they really want is just garbage action scenes with some tits and/or brief crying in between. I'd wager most of the same people would have trouble sitting through a book.

I like that I know all this about the Elves/Dwarves, the Elves and Elven characters, the Harfoots are better than I thought for being all made up, they are actually endearing, the patience and manipulativeness of Sauron, the history of Galadriel (I mean really ties in to the scene when Frodo tries to give her the ring), the dislike of Elves from where Isildur comes from, etc...

This all takes time to establish.

 

[linkgoron]

Consider that there was way more action and "stuff happening" in this one season of LotR than the first 2.5 seasons of GoT, but probably no one complains about that because their brains were satisfied with vaginas and gore to fill in those gaps with GoT.

But yeah, I don't get it either. This is if nothing else pretty much what you should be prepared for with LoTR, and I think it moved way faster than the movies.

Again, I'm one that doesn't give a tit about hobbits ever and feel that they ruin everything, but they are essential in this world and you have to expect them to come with it.

I don't see why you have to shit on one show to be a fan of another. GoT season 1 was terrific. I'm not a huge GoT fan (I stopped watching after two or three seasons in, and just watched the two last seasons for an ending because GRRM will never give us one), but tons of stuff happens in the first season of GoT alone. Just ask Sean Bean, Mark Addy, Jason Momoa, Harry Lloyd etc. GRRM obviously lost his way after the 3rd book and never found his way back, and the show went downhill from there, but just the first season has tons of stuff happening.

 

[MrSquished]

I don't see why you have to shit on one show to be a fan of another. GoT season 1 was terrific. I'm not a huge GoT fan (I stopped watching after two or three seasons in, and just watched the two last seasons for an ending because GRRM will never give us one), but tons of stuff happens in the first season of GoT. Just ask Sean Bean, Mark Addy, Jason Momoa, Harry Lloyd etc. GRRM obviously lost his way after the 3rd book and never found his way back, and the show went downhill from there, but the first season has tons of stuff happening.

yeah I thought the first seasons from GOT were excellent.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Some of you fucks should just stick to Fast and Furious movies.

 

[Kaido]

Doubled-whammied with the Sixth Sense "what a twist!" in that last episode, awesome!!

Also the colors were magnificent! I have a non-HDR set & man, it looked so good!

 

[BoomerD]

Some of you fucks should just stick to Fast and Furious movies.

Wait...they made more than one of those abominations?

 

[brianmanahan]

Wait...they made more than one of those abominations?

i'll tell all about it (when i see you again in "furious 7")

holy crap, paul walker died almost 9 years ago? it feels like 3 tops.

 

[MrSquished]

Wait...they made more than one of those abominations?

I never even watched the first. After the fourth came out I thought I should see the first just to see the one that started it all as it might have been good. Then I saw the trailers for 4 and then 5 and said fuck this noise. Trash.

 

[Gardener]

Gandalf development was interesting, the Sauron and Galadriel relationship was brilliant, the highlight of the series for me. I skipped through several sections, too frequently the hobbits (and dwarves to a lesser extent) are inaccurately portrayed as fops in the movies and in this series. The grandeur of Númenor was completely lacking. Overall it was 7/10 for this Tolkien fan.



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[purbeast0]

Not at all. You can be into LOTR and not love the show as well. But it's plainly obvious you have zero interest in the LOTR universe at all.

Yeah most people who have zero interest in it watched it.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't see why you have to shit on one show to be a fan of another. GoT season 1 was terrific. I'm not a huge GoT fan (I stopped watching after two or three seasons in, and just watched the two last seasons for an ending because GRRM will never give us one), but tons of stuff happens in the first season of GoT alone. Just ask Sean Bean, Mark Addy, Jason Momoa, Harry Lloyd etc. GRRM obviously lost his way after the 3rd book and never found his way back, and the show went downhill from there, but just the first season has tons of stuff happening.

I'm not shitting on GoT? I loved GoT! I like it way more than LoTR. ...I much prefer this LoTR series to the current GoT/Dragon one, however.

But if you read the comments here: terrible pacing! Nothing happens! which pretty much means....reading down the list...oh! No battles! No action! LOTS OF TALKING!

Do you recall the first season of GoT? There's some violence with the Dothraki every once in a while, one beheading at the end, and a whole lot of rape and incest and general violence. But really, it's lots of talking and complaining about being a king.

It's very very very very very good, but is also exactly what everyone complains about here. I just speculate why "worse pacing" there is probably overlooked to what some are seeing here. Nothing more.

Maybe "terrible pacing" is really just a euphemism for their hidden Hobbitsism that they don't want to admit.

 

[purbeast0]

I'm not shitting on GoT? I loved GoT! I like it way more than LoTR. ...I much prefer this LoTR series to the current GoT/Dragon one, however.

But if you read the comments here: terrible pacing! Nothing happens! which pretty much means....reading down the list...oh! No battles! No action! LOTS OF TALKING!

Do you recall the first season of GoT? There's some violence with the Dothraki every once in a while, one beheading at the end, and a whole lot of rape and incest and general violence. But really, it's lots of talking and complaining about being a king.

It's very very very very very good, but is also exactly what everyone complains about here. I just speculate why "worse pacing" there is probably overlooked to what some are seeing here. Nothing more.

Part of it is also the acting in GoT (and HotD) is on another level compared to this LotR show. The acting in general in this show is lacking big time which IMO played a big part in it being "meh" to me personally.

 

[Kaido]

But if you read the comments here: terrible pacing! Nothing happens! which pretty much means....reading down the list...oh! No battles! No action! LOTS OF TALKING!

tbh it reminded me a lot of DBZ, lots of posturing but really slow pacing. Same deal with Mandalorian - loved it, but SO SLOW! And especially The Book of Boba Fett, and I'm working Andor, but man, the pacing has a hard time holding my ADHD attention lol.

Someone needs to do a fan recut of the Rings of Power to make it a snappy action movie (side note: DBZ Abridged is HILARIOUS). They actually did it with the Hobbit trilogy, which was one movie stretched out into 3 movies. The edit is absolutely fantastic & actually makes it into a really good movie!

The Hobbit: The Tolkien Edit

Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy recut into a single 4-hour film

tolkieneditor.wordpress.com

Same deal with the Phantom Edit from Star Wars...without Jar Jar Binks, the movies are actually pretty dang good!!