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The largest street gang in America

I am disappoint. it took 6 minutes and 53 seconds until a non-white was the target of police abuse.

on a more serious level, there are idiots and corruption at all levels of society. it's a shame that the bad apples will always be pushed to the forefront while the good ones are rarely acknowledged.
 
Udgnim said:
I am disappoint. it took 6 minutes and 53 seconds until a non-white was the target of police abuse.

on a more serious level, there are idiots and corruption at all levels of society. it's a shame that the bad apples will always be pushed to the forefront while the good ones are rarely acknowledged.
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Its more that the bad apples are seen to get away with it, how many times do you see the police punished to the same extent a regular citizen would be?
 
I like how the video talked down to me at the beginning. The whole thing is a total trustafarian production.
 
TecHNooB said:
I'm sure the majority of those clips are out of context.
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The second set shows a police officer shooting and killing a man that was laying face first on the ground in handcuffs.

You can absolutely trust police officers everyone.
 
"Sorry, but talk show hosts I have heard that say we don't have to worry about tyranny in this "nation" because our troops would never turn their guns on "Americans". They are wrong. They have never read history. They don't realize the training and brainwashing that takes place in the military now and in the para-military police forces - especially the federales. Just wait until big-O gets his Civilian National Security Force in place and all the local wanna-be LEOs join in with them."
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Just wait...
 
SN4p said:
The second set shows a police officer shooting and killing a man that was laying face first on the ground in handcuffs.

You can absolutely trust police officers everyone.
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That's not a very good conclusion to make.
 
Looks like a lot of out of context clips, and definitely a lot of inappropriate actions by police. Of course there are some bad cops out there, but the vast vast majority are good people.
 
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WelshBloke said:
Yeah the slight condescension of the video maker is way more post worthy that the massive abuse of authority. 🙄
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Boo hoo. Cops are corrupt. Lawyers are corrupt. Bankers are corrupt. And the thug, criminal assholes who do 99.9% of the "abuse" to our society are corrupt.
 
TheVrolok said:
Looks like a lot of out of context clips, and definitely a lot of inappropriate actions by police. Of course there are some bad cops out there, but the vast vast majority are good people.
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I think the vast majority of people accept that. The problem many of us have is that the bad ones are strongly protected by the good ones AND are often lightly punished if at all. This leads to a distrust in the police and justice system in general. By the way, most of the inappropriate actions by police that I saw (I did not watch all 284 parts of the series) would have landed me in prison as a private citizen even with a ccw.

Edit: The videos may be out of context, but there is enough context even in the relatively short videos to make a reasonable assumption. Police are supposed to use force to counter an *immediate threat* and use force only long enough to stop the action. What the person did even 10 seconds before is largely irrelevant.
 
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WelshBloke said:
I'm finding it hard to put those clips in a good context.
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That's the point in this type of video, though. 🙂 To give you a context implied by the author. 🙂 I'm not defending some of these actions, but I can see where there may be more to some of these stories.
 
TheVrolok said:
That's the point in this type of video, though. 🙂 To give you a context implied by the author. 🙂 I'm not defending some of these actions, but I can see where there may be more to some of these stories.
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The first part is actually the worst.
 
SarcasticDwarf said:
The problem many of us have is that the bad ones are strongly protected by the good ones AND are often lightly punished if at all.
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I agree with this completely. I really wish that when an officer was found guilty of whatever, that he would be publicly "strung up." I think that would help both the public, and the "brotherhood" of LEOs realize that being an LEO is a position of privilege and should duty should be performed appropriately.

SarcasticDwarf said:
By the way, most of the inappropriate actions by police that I saw (I did not watch all 284 parts of the series) would have landed me in prison as a private citizen even with a ccw.
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Well that's not really a surprise as a CCW does nothing more than allow you to legal carry a firearm, it affords no right to use the weapon. Usage of lethal force is covered by other laws and FAR more restricted for civilians than LEOs - and rightfully so.

SarcasticDwarf said:
Edit: The videos may be out of context, but there is enough context even in the relatively short videos to make a reasonable assumption. Police are supposed to use force to counter an *immediate threat* and use force only long enough to stop the action. What the person did even 10 seconds before is largely irrelevant.
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That's just flat out wrong, what the person did 10 seconds prior can be VERY relevant.
 
TheVrolok said:
That's the point in this type of video, though. 🙂 To give you a context implied by the author. 🙂 I'm not defending some of these actions, but I can see where there may be more to some of these stories.
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I edited my post above, but the larger context is largely irrelevant when using force. For example, the person riding the bike when the officer ran over and shoved them off the bike, risking significant injury to the biker (and the people standing to the side). It seems pretty clear from the video that the person on the bike was not in the act of causing harm to someone or displaying any means to cause harm. So why would an officer injure someone like that? Had they just left the scene after murdering someone? That seems about the only good reason to do that. If the officers were trying to stop an illegal bike rally there are many options which don't result in significant bodily harm for people and bystanders.

An officer should always have the option to use force in a situation (up to and including deadly force) but it should be proportionate to the situation/suspected crime.
 
SarcasticDwarf said:
I edited my post above, but the larger context is largely irrelevant when using force. For example, the person riding the bike when the officer ran over and shoved them off the bike, risking significant injury to the biker (and the people standing to the side). It seems pretty clear from the video that the person on the bike was not in the act of causing harm to someone or displaying any means to cause harm. So why would an officer injure someone like that? Had they just left the scene after murdering someone? That seems about the only good reason to do that. If the officers were trying to stop an illegal bike rally there are many options which don't result in significant bodily harm for people and bystanders.

An officer should always have the option to use force in a situation (up to and including deadly force) but it should be proportionate to the situation/suspected crime.
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Yeah I completely agree with your assessment of that clip. I have no idea wtf that cop was thinking hauling off on a guy on a bike. It may have been appropriate to detain him for whatever reason, but, like you said, aside from the rider coming directly from a violent crime I don't know why he needed to be forcibly dismounted. 😛
 
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