The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[JEDIYoda]

No, its an answer you cannot counter, hence your response

Your answer was not worth an answer.....you have been grasping for straws saince the beginning of this thread....

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump should release his tax returns, and Biden should allow a targeted query of the documents in question.

Why? We already know Tara has been lying about it. She's changed her stories so many times that she can't even remember them all. That's all we need to know.

 

[amrnuke]

That does "stick" though. Just like all the lies and shit they spewed about Hilary stuck enough that even people who openly say they know it was all lies say they hate her because of them.

Rumor has it that if you utter "Hillary hid the same number of emails as Drumpf," "Little Donnie used private servers just like Hillary," "Benghazi was the GOP Congress' fault," "Sandy Hook actually happened," "socialism is not communism," "we should apply the same restrictions on the second amendment that we apply on the first amendment," and "the border wall is a hilarious waste of money because most illegals are here after flying in and overstaying a visa" in a dark room in front of a mirror, three people who worship Trump like the Messiah will have a brain aneurysm.

 

[UberNeuman]

Why? We already know Tara has been lying about it. She's changed her stories so many times that she can't even remember them all. That's all we need to know.

Well, I think you know why. The sad, sick, desperate mind of the rightwinger wanting to find ANYTHING to howl into the wind about.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Why? We already know Tara has been lying about it. She's changed her stories so many times that she can't even remember them all. That's all we need to know.

It’s not atypical for a victim to do that, especially when there is a power dynamic at play. It’s also part of the playbook to attack the victim. We should believe her because that is the standard Biden supported before he was the one facing accusations.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Your answer was not worth an answer.....you have been grasping for straws saince the beginning of this thread....

I am holding your candidate to the standard he advocated for.

 

[fskimospy]

I am holding your candidate to the standard he advocated for.

Lol, even after Reade loses much of her credibility your commitment to #bothsides concern trolling continues unabated.

Let’s hold him to the standard you apparently support as per the Kavanaugh hearings and just mint him president now.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Lol, even after Reade loses much of her credibility your commitment to #bothsides concern trolling continues unabated.

She hasn’t lost her credibility, Democrats have. If you want, I can start posting what various Democrats said during the Kavanaugh hearings, starting with Joe Biden himself. You’re not the only one with receipts.

Let’s hold him to the standard you apparently support as per the Kavanaugh hearings and just mint him president now.

That’s essentially what you’re doing in this thread.

Democrats would be more credible if they said, even if the allegations are true, Biden is of higher character than Trump. I believe you’ve said as much, which is why I am not accusing you of being a hypocrite. Some Democrat Senators on the other hand, massive hypocrites, just like their GOP counterparts.

 

[fskimospy]

She hasn’t lost her credibility, Democrats have. If you want, I can start posting what various Democrats said during the Kavanaugh hearings, starting with Joe Biden himself. You’re not the only one with receipts.

Oh, then that complaint she filed should be turning up any minute now and she should be identifying the person who bizarrely and wrongly told her that it would be in Biden’s papers. Perhaps her other employment records will help us understand which of her four mutually exclusive stories regarding her termination is the real one too.

That’s essentially what you’re doing in this thread.

Democrats would be more credible if they said, even if the allegations are true, Biden is of higher character than Trump. I believe you’ve said as much, which is why I am not accusing you of being a hypocrite. Some Democrat Senators on the other hand, massive hypocrites, just like their GOP counterparts.

While I agree that even if Biden were 100% guilty he would still be vastly better than Trump the accusation against him is not very credible and so there’s no need to even go there. Kavanaugh’s accuser was credible - so credible in fact that he felt the need to perjure himself. Contrast that with Biden who has directed any relevant complaint about him be released.

Also I may have missed it but you were incandescent with rage about Kavanaugh being presumably falsely accused by someone but I haven’t seen any similar anger towards Republicans when it came out that their newest allegation against Biden was provably fabricated.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Oh, then that complaint she filed should be turning up any minute now and she should be identifying the person who bizarrely and wrongly told her that it would be in Biden’s papers. Perhaps her other employment records will help us understand which of her four mutually exclusive stories regarding her termination is the real one too.

Sounds like an independent investigation would be appropriate.

While I agree that even if Biden were 100% guilty he would still be vastly better than Trump the accusation against him is not very credible and so there’s no need to even go there. Kavanaugh’s accuser was credible - so credible in fact that he felt the need to perjure himself. Contrast that with Biden who has directed any relevant complaint about him be released.

Both accusations are equally credible when evaluated to the standard that Democrats advocated. #Ibelieveher*

* when politically convenient

Also I may have missed it but you were incandescent with rage about Kavanaugh being presumably falsely accused by someone but I haven’t seen any similar anger towards Republicans when it came out that their newest allegation against Biden was provably fabricated.

FYI, I switched over to LED rage.

I also “raged” in the Franken thread as well. I’ve consistently opposed the Democrats politically weaponizing the #metoo movement, this thread being case in point as to why.

I am not saying Biden is guilty. I am holding him accountable to the standard he advocated for.

 

[fskimospy]

Sounds like an independent investigation would be appropriate.

Sure, that’s what both Biden and basically everyone here have supported from the start.

Both accusations are equally credible when evaluated to the standard that Democrats advocated. #Ibelieveher*

* when politically convenient

Only if that standard is willfully misconstrued. It did not mean to believe women and ignore contrary evidence.

FYI, I switched over to LED rage.

I also “raged” in the Franken thread as well. I’ve consistently opposed the Democrats politically weaponizing the #metoo movement, this thread being case in point as to why.

I am not saying Biden is guilty. I am holding him accountable to the standard he advocated for.

It wasn’t politically weaponized, it was a credible allegation.

 

[eelw]

Are the 3 never Biden guys taking turns being beat up in this topic?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sure, that’s what both Biden and basically everyone here have supported from the start.

Great, when does it begin?

Only if that standard is willfully misconstrued. It did not mean to believe women and ignore contrary evidence.

Character assassination of the person raising the allegations is not evidence, its the standard playbook.

It wasn’t politically weaponized, it was a credible allegation.

No it was political, hence the hypocrisy.

 

[fskimospy]

Great, when does it begin?

It has already begun, I'm not sure what you're talking about. What exactly has the media been doing if not investigating?

Character assassination of the person raising the allegations is not evidence, its the standard playbook.

Showing how their allegations have repeatedly changed in mutually contradictory ways and how documentary evidence they claim exists cannot be located and no one involved remembers it sure sounds like evidence to me.

No it was political, hence the hypocrisy.

Yes, clearly so non-credible that the target of it felt it necessary to perjure himself before Congress and Republicans refused any meaningful investigation into it.

 

[brycejones]

Are the 3 never Biden guys taking turns being beat up in this topic?

I think one would be posting regardless of who the nominee was because reasons.

 

[Ichinisan]

What did Ford and the people corroborating her story have to gain by coming forward when Kavanaugh was selected?

Did Blasey-Ford have any corroboration at all?

 

[blankslate]

You should spend more time hmming before posting because you clearly didn't think that post out much. I haven't seen anyone claim Bernie is a Russian plant. The Bernie Bros on the other hand sure seem to either be part of the Russia's disinformation campaign or are too stupid to realize they're being used for it.

Perhaps not anyone here.

maybe you should hmm'ing yourself before you take yourself way too seriously as you have garnered the like of another one who does exactly that....


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[Jhhnn]

It’s not atypical for a victim to do that, especially when there is a power dynamic at play. It’s also part of the playbook to attack the victim. We should believe her because that is the standard Biden supported before he was the one facing accusations.

There hasn't been any power dynamic between Reade & Biden since 1993. The sheer dishonesty in her edit of her Medium piece indicates that she's not to be trusted. She's shown a lot of flakiness in other regards, as well. She damages the credibility of the whole Metoo movement with her antics.

Your claim of Liberal hypocrisy is standard "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty". It's not about that, anyway, no matter how badly you want it to be so. Accusations must be judged on their merits alone.

 

[dank69]

Did Blasey-Ford have any corroboration at all?

Yes, There Is Plenty of Corroborating Evidence for Christine Blasey Ford's Allegations

Either conservatives don't understand what “corroborating evidence” means, or they're lying about it in order to mislead their supporters.

rewire.news

 

[pauldun170]

Biden called for an investigation from the very beginning.
The issue appears to be that certain posters will refuse to accept any outcome that deviates from their preferred narrative.
They also appear to reject any investigation into Reade.

 

[fskimospy]

Did Blasey-Ford have any corroboration at all?

Yes, she had notes from her therapist describing the incident from long before she accused Kavanaugh. He also perjured himself on the stand while denying her accusations so there's that.

 

[eelw]

Did Blasey-Ford have any corroboration at all?

Well no she didn’t. But not as if Kavanaugh’s witness was reliable. Yeah he’s also being accused of attempted rape. Sure he’s going to tell the truth.

But it’s behaviour. Kavanaugh been confirmed to get blackout drunk many times in college. So not out of the realm of possibility it started in high school.

And argument most of us have against Reade. Flip flopping story on why she left. Flip flopping on supporting Biden to Putin. Proven liar and thief with horse rescue shelter.

But did we need so many accusations against Trump or Weinstein to know either are sexual predators?

 

[vi edit]

I've yet to comment up to this point, but from the start this one seems like the Jessie Smollett story. Something fishy about it and I've been waiting for more information. Her credibility and story are flimsy at best.

 

[sandorski]

Yes, she had notes from her therapist describing the incident from long before she accused Kavanaugh. He also perjured himself on the stand while denying her accusations so there's that.

So notes 20 years after the fact(as I recall the Therapy took place) is greater corroboration than 4 Witnesses and a Phone Call to a National Call-in show from at the same time of the Alleged event to a few years later? Do you understand why many think Reade's allegations have been better corroborated?

 

[Starbuck1975]

There hasn't been any power dynamic between Reade & Biden since 1993.

So?

The sheer dishonesty in her edit of her Medium piece indicates that she's not to be trusted. She's shown a lot of flakiness in other regards, as well. She damages the credibility of the whole Metoo movement with her antics.

Democrats have done far more damage than Reade. Did she get in Obama’s time machine to tell her neighbor about the assault and ask her mom to call Larry King?

Your claim of Liberal hypocrisy is standard "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty". It's not about that, anyway, no matter how badly you want it to be so. Accusations must be judged on their merits alone.

Glad to see Democrats come around to acknowledge the importance of due process...all it took was credibly accusing one of their’s.