The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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theeedude

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So she just happened to wear crotch-less lingerie to work that day, was told to give Biden his gym bag, went looking for him and happened to find him in some hallway in the Senate, and Biden decided right there and then to make his move and "assault" her? When they were working together for two years in his office, the time and place he finally decided to "assault" her is in broad daylight on a workday, in a hallway she happened to have found him in the Senate building in broad daylight? And he "assaulted" her and then stuck around for "under 3 minutes" to give her some drama about being "nothing", again in the middle of a Senate hallway, where there is ample security and politicians, staff, lobbyists, etc, just going around their work day business? Is it possible? I guess everything is possible. But is it likely? I doubt it.
 
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I disagree and will leave it at that. Because the fact is that Democrats made a mistake by using Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh. First, because Kavanaugh still got the job. But also because it is ridiculous to create an environment where one person can destroy another simply by making accusations of sexual improprieties from decades earlier, that they had for some reason never come forward with before. Literally no different than witch hunts. I said as much at the time too. There were many legitimate and on-point reasons to want to keep Kavanaugh from the bench. The one the Democrats chose backfired and, unfortunately, for good reason.

It wasn't one person though. Three women came forward and they all made claims about similar behavior (Kavanaugh being drunk and then forcing physical/sexual behavior) . There was a 4th claim (that was in line with the 3rd, basically about Kavanaugh's general behavior at those parties) but I'm not sure it was ever followed up on and by then it was clear that Republicans were going to steamroll the entire situation. There were also dozens of people that tried to contact the FBI about information relevant that never got contacted back. And taken as a whole there's a lot more corroboration than Reade has, not to mention there's been no changing of the basic claims about what occurred by the accusers.

Plus, did you forget that the Democrats weren't even going to bring Ford's allegation to light initially? Then it hit the media and public pressure grew for them to bring this up with regards to Kavanaugh's hearing and then other women came forward. There were a lot of differences compared to this situation, and anyone claiming that Reade has more corroboration than Ford is just straight fucked in the head. And no, that doesn't absolutely mean Reade is lying. But its gross that people are attempting to tear down Ford now to prop up Reade.

Honestly, you might be the most disgusting of all as you seem to be mad that women are allowed to make such allegations at all. That you act like that situation was just a ploy by the Democrats to keep out Kavanaugh is just simply wrong. That you don't think such allegations are legitimate and on point for keeping a person that can rule on such situations as the end all be all law of the land is what the fuck worthy nonsense. That you think any of the other things they had against him would have mattered either is just stupid. That stuff was raised and it didn't matter. That, that coupled with these serious allegations, as well as Kavanaugh's behavior in response to them where he literally lied under oath, didn't should tell you what you already knew. If there was a political ploy it was by Republicans to make damn sure that they got a ridiculously biased and corrupt person on the Supreme Court.

Which its interesting that you appear to be disgusted about someone being destroyed about such behavior, while declaring there were plenty of other reasons to "destroy" Kavanaugh.

You also apparently need to read up on the witch hunts because it doesn't seem you understand those either (FYI, you know that witchcraft as the people doing the witch hunts believed, is not real, right? So them taking claims about women doing that stuff is insanity to begin with. Although I'm starting to wonder if its more that you believe sexual assault/rape can't actually happen). Your entire demeanor and responses about this are in line with how right wingers act (not knowing basic information, declaring it invalid and even if it were valid it should be meaningless, then making analogies where you just show you don't understand either of the situations you're comparing but will make claims about either to fit your desire to fit what you want). Which I remember going WTF when you said you'd vote for Turmp if Warren won the Democratic nomination, this behavior is more WTF than that.
 
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Ackmed

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Its no surprise that there is a huge double standard with this. Dems dont really care about metoo, racism, bigotry, homophobia, or any other sort of such treatment to all people. They only care about it when its against certain people, and give a total pass when to others. So many examples of this.

The blatant hypocrisy of this and Ford should be shocking, but its not. Media coverage and what they are actually saying when they rarely do say something tells it all. Same for the elected leaders who demanded Ford be believed no matter what, and that Kav is a rapist and should never serve his country in courts again.
 

TheVrolok

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Its no surprise that there is a huge double standard with this. Dems dont really care about metoo, racism, bigotry, homophobia, or any other sort of such treatment to all people. They only care about it when its against certain people, and give a total pass when to others. So many examples of this.

The blatant hypocrisy of this and Ford should be shocking, but its not. Media coverage and what they are actually saying when they rarely do say something tells it all. Same for the elected leaders who demanded Ford be believed no matter what, and that Kav is a rapist and should never serve his country in courts again.
If only there was an entire thread where this bullshit was shown to be demonstrably false.
 

HomerJS

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Its no surprise that there is a huge double standard with this. Dems dont really care about metoo, racism, bigotry, homophobia, or any other sort of such treatment to all people. They only care about it when its against certain people, and give a total pass when to others. So many examples of this.

The blatant hypocrisy of this and Ford should be shocking, but its not. Media coverage and what they are actually saying when they rarely do say something tells it all. Same for the elected leaders who demanded Ford be believed no matter what, and that Kav is a rapist and should never serve his country in courts again.
Think so? Try asking Sen Al Frankin. Wipe the egg off your face. You look like a piece of french toast.
 

soundforbjt

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Good read.
“This story is gathering an importance it should not have,” he said. “There is so much at stake in this next election. The entire world needs to be put back together.

“Why,” said Maher, “should one person’s victimhood trump everyone else’s?”



 

Jhhnn

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So she just happened to wear crotch-less lingerie to work that day, was told to give Biden his gym bag, went looking for him and happened to find him in some hallway in the Senate, and Biden decided right there and then to make his move and "assault" her? When they were working together for two years in his office, the time and place he finally decided to "assault" her is in broad daylight on a workday, in a hallway she happened to have found him in the Senate building in broad daylight? And he "assaulted" her and then stuck around for "under 3 minutes" to give her some drama about being "nothing", again in the middle of a Senate hallway, where there is ample security and politicians, staff, lobbyists, etc, just going around their work day business? Is it possible? I guess everything is possible. But is it likely? I doubt it.

The word you want is "Preposterous". It's particularly evident in light of what she said previously.