The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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sandorski

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she says it does and says some else says where it is while the staffers don’t recall (if that parts true).

So who goes to check and under what rules?

Someone. There are ways this can be done. Why do I have to know?
 

fskimospy

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I understand your desire to conflate the perjury charges with the sexual assault charges. Kavanaugh and his “allies” sought to challenge the kangaroo court that Avenatti set in motion. What is that guy up to these days?

Dr. Ford is welcome to bring formal charges against Kavanaugh as Biden’s accuser has.
Nothing in those photos or accusations couldn’t be addressed with a full investigation and a heartfelt apology. Democrats chose the kangaroo court approach instead. We also have video of Biden awkwardly touching women.
Of course, because his perjury was directly related to the charges against him. Only a fool wouldn’t view the two together.

Republicans could have chosen to investigate only the charges they found credible. They decided not to.
 

fskimospy

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If the only reason to vote for the shell that is Joe Biden is that he might beat Trump, it's a sad time in America. If the only reason to carry Biden over the finish line, is to remove him and harvest his VP to be POTUS, man...what a slimy motive. They are running a household name hoping he wins, but they may have ulterior motives. The DNC may have a plan. I do think the pressure is gonna mount for them to replace him before the election.
The reason to vote for Biden is to remove a mentally ill felon from the presidency. Everything else is just gravy.

Like I said if a non-Trumpy Republican were the only alternative I would vote for them too. Same reason I would have voted for anyone who won the Democratic nomination. Who it is is secondary to the removal of the felon.
 

soundforbjt

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So now she's Guilty by Association? Is everyone who appears on Fox News also some nefarious Actor?
Only 90% or so, a few get by that they disparage and mock. If they praise or sympathize with the guest it's usually for their own agenda while you're useful (ask Diamond & Silk, etc).
 

sandorski

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Only 90% or so, a few get by that they disparage and mock. If they praise or sympathize with the guest it's usually for their own agenda while you're useful (ask Diamond & Silk, etc).

Does that in itself negate a Guests points/allegations?
 

interchange

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They started taking it seriously long after the first report was released. There was a few weeks of absoluitely nothing said on the subject. Unlike with Dr Ford which was almost immediate Headlines.

Also not true. All 3 published their findings on investigation within 2 weeks of the initial report and all included talking to multiple sources to vet the allegation with mixed success. It's called responsible reporting. Publications with lesser reputations break stories all the time. They do it because they don't have the same standard of vetting. It means that they are less credible overall, but it doesn't mean that individually any story they break is false.

In this particular case, amassing more details is actually really freaking smart. There wasn't much urgency to get the story out in the first few weeks. Joe already got the nomination. There is a long way to go before the election. Reade is under no active risk from Joe.
 
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Paratus

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Someone. There are ways this can be done. Why do I have to know?

Because if her story is a correct as you believe then someone is going to have to look. Who does it and the manner it is done in is very important. They will either corroborate her story or they won’t.

At that point you’ll have to decide what to do with the information. If you are as open minded as you think you are the you must accept the possibility the complaint doesn’t exist and she’s lying. Just as you must accept the possibility it does and she’s being truthful.

Normally it would be police who get to look at evidence. In terms of Senate records I have no idea.

If Mitch McConnell gives Sean Hannity the records to rummage through Biden’s on Fox News and says “A Ha! here’s the complaint and Joe wrote on it ‘I totally did it’. Oh and it’s right next to these payments from the Ukraine”. I would expect you to discount it as a hit job.

Same as if Nancy Pelosi reviews the records and says there’s nothing there. I would expect you to not start in on Democrat conspiracy theory to protect Biden

Ask yourself now what would have to happen to allow yourself to believe she’s wrong. If the answer is there’s nothing to convince you otherwise, if Bernie himself said Biden was innocent after investigating and your thought is “they got to Bernie” your aren’t holding a rational position.

Before flipping this around on me I will do the same.
 
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sandorski

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Because if her story is a correct as you believe then someone is going to have to look. Who does it and the manner it is done in is very important. They will either corroborate her story or they won’t.

At that point you’ll have to decide what to do with the information. If you are as open minded as you think you are the you must accept the possibility the complaint doesn’t exist and she’s lying. Just as you must accept the possibility it does and she’s being truthful.

Normally it would be police who get to look at evidence. In terms of Senate records I have no idea.

If Mitch McConnell gives Sean Hannity the records to rummage through Biden’s on Fox News and says “A Ha! here’s the complaint and Joe wrote on it ‘I totally did it’. Oh and it’s right next to these payments from the Ukraine”. I would expect you to discount it as a hit job.

Same as if Nancy Pelosi reviews the records and says there’s nothing there. I would expect you to not start in on Democrat conspiracy theory to protect Biden

Ask yourself now what would have to happen to allow yourself to believe she’s wrong. If the answer is there’s nothing to convince you otherwise, if Bernie himself said Biden was innocent after investigating and your thought is “they got to Bernie” your aren’t holding a rational position.

Before flipping this around on me I will do the same.

I understand it requires some Procedure, but it is not like these things have never been done before. So it can be worked out. The actual Complaint though is the actual evidence here.


What my reaction might be of nothing being found is entirely irrelevant. If something is found, does the reaction of those not believing the allegation matter? This Complaint, if it exists does not prove the Assault, but would be just another bit of corroboration of her allegation. Much like how the various people in her Past have confirmed that she mentioned the event nearly 30 years ago. The event itself will only ever be 100% known to her and Biden, that will always be the case and often is the case in such situations.

I don't recall being the one suggesting that the Complaint was some panacea, but have been responding to others' suggestion that the lack of it had some meaning. That's why the finding of it would allay any doubt, at least on that point.
 

sportage

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THIS, "THIS" being the attack against Joe Biden, THIS is all that republicans have to go on.
Donald Trump's reprehensible conduct as president (and before) doesn't come close to the questionable peccadilloes of Joe Biden. Nice try righties but.... Joe Biden will be the next president and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what they may say about Joe or accuse Joe of having done, and it doesn't matter even if Joe Biden is worthy of the label SLEEPY JOE. It doesn't matter because America has already elected a Russian operative as the president, so it will be a cake walk with electing a sleepy president. But any-who, this election is going to be interesting. We have Donald Trump who is not only being destroyed by the pandemic in every which way possible, but a Donald Trump that must deal with his own delusions. Can you imagine the dreams that Donald Trump must be having? A giant, ugly, coronavirus chasing Donald in his dreams with that virus chomping away at Donald like with PacMan. Donald runs and runs while the virus chomp chomp chomps away at Donald's ass. (queue the PacMan audio).

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Vic

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Dude, you have already stated your voting Biden regardless, because Trump is worse. So...
So.. what? Because you prefer Presidents that grab em by the pussy and are openly hostile to womens rights?