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The Islamization of Europe

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Just because you are pointing out that radical Islam is gaining a foothold and is raidly spreading doesn't mean you hate Islam. Radical Islam is a threat to all of us, muslims included. The thing is that whenever you point something like this out, you are labeled a muslim hater.🙁

There is a lot of hate for Europeans among some muslims in Europe, just read your local NY Times. Or any other news source. The radical clerics are calling for Jihad against the very countries they are living in. But these drugged out, sexed out Europeans could care less that their country is being destroyed as we speak. In fact, these are the sons and daughters of ex-Nazis (in Germany) and feel extreme guilt towards everyone. To be fair, all European countries feels guilt for their past atrocities against people around the world, thats why they're letting the foreigners take over their countries without even putting up a fight. The sad part is that Europe is going down without a fight.

Without heritage, without language, without borders, without values and morals, without culture and without pride, there is no country. Just ask the Romans.


Only the germans have the guilt of their history, rest of us doesn't feel any guilt of what happened centuries ago.
 
Originally posted by: dpm


A few months ago, an American man living here in Britain shot and killed a policeman. I didn't hear you apologise - is it acceptable that you walk around silent to the acts your 'kind' are commiting? Should I accept that 'Americans wan't [me] dead"? And plan accordingly?

On behalf of America, I am sorry "we" shot "your" police man. Nevermind that the first American colonists came from where??
 
Originally posted by: dpm
What do you wan't - every Muslim in the world to personally write a letter condemning terrorism to you every day?

Why don't you try to meet some Muslim's and see what they say rather than blaming the many for the crimes of a few?

A few months ago, an American man living here in Britain shot and killed a policeman. I didn't hear you apologise - is it acceptable that you walk around silent to the acts your 'kind' are commiting? Should I accept that 'Americans wan't [me] dead"? And plan accordingly?

Though Red Dawn is one of the posters here I have great respect for, I don't particularly like his Brownshirt analogy. As I said before - I think your attitude harks back more to the worst days of the troubles in Northern Ireland - replace the word 'Muslim' in your diatribes with 'Catholic' or 'Protestant' and see what I mean.

Oh, 1 policeman was shot. The horror. :roll:
"From 9/11/01 to 2/08/05 there have been: 1905 major Islamic terrorist attacks involving loss of life noted on this site. By our count, the number of attacks that CAIR has acknowledged and condemned is 5."
Keep in mind this does include the attacks in Iraq. Regardless, when you have 1900 accounts of American people shooting others in your ocuntry let me know.
But I dont really see that happening.......
So, out of almost two THOUSAND attacks CAIR has acknowledged FIVE. Thats quite the denial of terrorist activities isnt it? I mean wow, five out of nearly two thousand. Yep, they DEFINATELY make a point to denounce terrorist attacks dont they.
 
Originally posted by: magomago

And immigrants tend to have higher birth rates, and Mohammed is a VERY common name anyways. What isyour point?

Alright so Mohammed is a very common name. Now answer this. . .have you ever met a guy named Mohammed who WASN'T a muslim?
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: dpm
What do you wan't - every Muslim in the world to personally write a letter condemning terrorism to you every day?

Why don't you try to meet some Muslim's and see what they say rather than blaming the many for the crimes of a few?

A few months ago, an American man living here in Britain shot and killed a policeman. I didn't hear you apologise - is it acceptable that you walk around silent to the acts your 'kind' are commiting? Should I accept that 'Americans wan't [me] dead"? And plan accordingly?

Though Red Dawn is one of the posters here I have great respect for, I don't particularly like his Brownshirt analogy. As I said before - I think your attitude harks back more to the worst days of the troubles in Northern Ireland - replace the word 'Muslim' in your diatribes with 'Catholic' or 'Protestant' and see what I mean.

Oh, 1 policeman was shot. The horror. :roll:
"From 9/11/01 to 2/08/05 there have been: 1905 major Islamic terrorist attacks involving loss of life noted on this site. By our count, the number of attacks that CAIR has acknowledged and condemned is 5."
Keep in mind this does include the attacks in Iraq. Regardless, when you have 1900 accounts of American people shooting others in your ocuntry let me know.
But I dont really see that happening.......
So, out of almost two THOUSAND attacks CAIR has acknowledged FIVE. Thats quite the denial of terrorist activities isnt it? I mean wow, five out of nearly two thousand. Yep, they DEFINATELY make a point to denounce terrorist attacks dont they.

How many of them in the U.S/Europe?

Stop pointing out attacks in countries where there are wars.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
How many of them in the U.S/Europe?

Stop pointing out attacks in countries where there are wars.

Were you posting here to tell me you have my 50 bucks you owe me? Or are you just going to keep spilling your "Support the terrorists" drivel?
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: dpm
What do you wan't - every Muslim in the world to personally write a letter condemning terrorism to you every day?

Why don't you try to meet some Muslim's and see what they say rather than blaming the many for the crimes of a few?

A few months ago, an American man living here in Britain shot and killed a policeman. I didn't hear you apologise - is it acceptable that you walk around silent to the acts your 'kind' are commiting? Should I accept that 'Americans wan't [me] dead"? And plan accordingly?

Though Red Dawn is one of the posters here I have great respect for, I don't particularly like his Brownshirt analogy. As I said before - I think your attitude harks back more to the worst days of the troubles in Northern Ireland - replace the word 'Muslim' in your diatribes with 'Catholic' or 'Protestant' and see what I mean.

Oh, 1 policeman was shot. The horror. :roll:
"From 9/11/01 to 2/08/05 there have been: 1905 major Islamic terrorist attacks involving loss of life noted on this site. By our count, the number of attacks that CAIR has acknowledged and condemned is 5."
Keep in mind this does include the attacks in Iraq. Regardless, when you have 1900 accounts of American people shooting others in your ocuntry let me know.
But I dont really see that happening.......
So, out of almost two THOUSAND attacks CAIR has acknowledged FIVE. Thats quite the denial of terrorist activities isnt it? I mean wow, five out of nearly two thousand. Yep, they DEFINATELY make a point to denounce terrorist attacks dont they.
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Aimster
How many of them in the U.S/Europe?

Stop pointing out attacks in countries where there are wars.

Were you posting here to tell me you have my 50 bucks you owe me? Or are you just going to keep spilling your "Support the terrorists" drivel?

I don't owe you $50.

You cannot back up your claims because you make up news.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't owe you $50.

You cannot back up your claims because you make up news.

LOOK!! LOOK!! There goes my 50 bucks!! Its in your wallet!!
Can I have my 50 bucks back?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Aimster
How many of them in the U.S/Europe?

Stop pointing out attacks in countries where there are wars.

Were you posting here to tell me you have my 50 bucks you owe me? Or are you just going to keep spilling your "Support the terrorists" drivel?

I don't owe you $50.

You cannot back up your claims because you make up news.

No, you cannot back up ANYTHING you say because you're all about opinion. At least we give some facts and actual events that happen. All you do is dismiss anyone who says anything bad about Islamic terrorism.

Why do you duck your head in the sand?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Aimster
How many of them in the U.S/Europe?

Stop pointing out attacks in countries where there are wars.

Were you posting here to tell me you have my 50 bucks you owe me? Or are you just going to keep spilling your "Support the terrorists" drivel?

I don't owe you $50.

You cannot back up your claims because you make up news.

No, you cannot back up ANYTHING you say because you're all about opinion. At least we give some facts and actual events that happen. All you do is dismiss anyone who says anything bad about Islamic terrorism.

Why do you duck your head in the sand?

What facts? You are not providing any facts. I asked for evidence and both of you never come up with any of it.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?
I think a bullet to the back of the heads speaks volumes.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?

There are. What do you want them to do? The leaders already said they want peace and want to work with the U.S govt. in Iraq. What more can they do?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?
I think a bullet to the back of the heads speaks volumes.

Giving up?
Typical when people suddenly realize they backed themselves into a corner :roll:
Troll.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
There are. What do you want them to do? The leaders already said they want peace and want to work with the U.S govt. in Iraq. What more can they do?

I want them to pay me my 50 bucks!! Since you support them so much maybe they'll pay your debt for you. Do you think that might happen?
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Aimster
There are. What do you want them to do? The leaders already said they want peace and want to work with the U.S govt. in Iraq. What more can they do?

I want them to pay me my 50 bucks!! Since you support them so much maybe they'll pay your debt for you. Do you think that might happen?

That's what I thought.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?
I think a bullet to the back of the heads speaks volumes.

Giving up?
Typical when people suddenly realize they backed themselves into a corner :roll:
Troll.
Backed myself it what corner? Also please explain how my post rates as a troll?
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Aimster
There are. What do you want them to do? The leaders already said they want peace and want to work with the U.S govt. in Iraq. What more can they do?

I want them to pay me my 50 bucks!! Since you support them so much maybe they'll pay your debt for you. Do you think that might happen?
Now that would qualify as a Troll post!
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The #1 target of these terrorists are other Muslims. In SA and the other M.E. countries they just as soon kill them as arrest them. I think that sends a pretty big message that Muslims aren't condoning these attacks.

Now THAT I admit is a good point.
So lets work with that. If thats the case, why isnt there more outspoken disapproval of the terrorist attacks in Muslim countries and by the Muslim community?
I think a bullet to the back of the heads speaks volumes.

Giving up?
Typical when people suddenly realize they backed themselves into a corner :roll:
Troll.
Backed myself it what corner? Also please explain how my post rates as a troll?

I'm fairly certain Red Dawn is saying that besides their outspoken disapproval of terrorism, Muslim countries regularily execute their accused terrorists which I agree is a pretty clear condemnation of radicalism.

I mean, if I had more than two brain cells thats what I would think... your response to Red's post I can't make heads or tails of however...
 
This thread has been proven to be nothing more than junk.

1) Muslims mainly kill other Muslims in these "terrorist attacks where the majority happen in "war-zones". When a Muslim attacks another non-Muslim they are "terrorist", but when Russians or Europeans do it they are not classifed terrorist. Go look up the crimes that Russians and Bosnians have committed against Muslims. When an Israeli jet bombs a Palestinian apartment knowing there are civilians living there, they are not classified as terrorist. Yet when a Palestinian uses a bomb taking his own life killing civilians he is a terrorist. It is ok to kill Muslims, but when Muslims kill they are terrorist. The word terrorist seems to make people more evil than when armies kill civilians. Life is life and a title given to a group of people who carry out murders does not make one better than the other. There have been more Muslim deaths by the hands of other religions than Muslims have taken against other religions in the last century.

2) Muslim leaders have spoken out against such attacks. Nobody can stop violence. I should blame my Senator for not doing anything for the rapes and murders in my neighborhood. Damn that Senator for not speaking out more about such violence. Obviously if he does then there will never be any rapes and murders ever again.

3) Muslim nations are not 100% Muslim. There are Christians.Jews.Catholics.Etc living in Muslim nations. They are not being murdered because of their religion so the main point of this thread is nothing more than someone's racist views.

The OP seems to think Muslims are Middle Eastern. 18% of the Muslim population is from the Middle East. Did you know there are millions of Black/Asian Muslims as well? The largest Muslim country is an asian country. There are millions of White Muslims as well. You're hate seems to be for Arabs rather than the religion of Islam. The majority of violence in the Muslim world is done by Arabs which are 15-18% of the total Muslim population.

Remeber Indonesia? Yes. 90%+ Muslim. The largest Muslim country in the world. You saw the videos of the Tsunamis and all the Western tourist there. Why didn't they die by the hands of Muslims? Why is that country still a safe place to visit? Sri Lanka/Malaysia have large Muslim populations. Westerns go there every year.

Egypt/Turkey/UAE. Westerns go to those countries. 99.9% of them return home having a wonderful trip.
 
I think it is a stretch to call islam a religion of peace. I guess it could be, but I have not seen much evidence of this. The leaders in Spain had to overthrow one muslim uprising, but I guess they did not learn anything from that. If we do not remember the past we are doomed to repeat it.

There was a group of people called moors that tried to take over Spain. . . .
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
I think it is a stretch to call islam a religion of peace. I guess it could be, but I have not seen much evidence of this. The leaders in Spain had to overthrow one muslim uprising, but I guess they did not learn anything from that. If we do not remember the past we are doomed to repeat it.

There was a group of people called moors that tried to take over Spain. . . .
They didn't try, they did!
 
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