• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

The Internets:9-27-07 Verizon begins blocking text messages from Group it does not like - later execs reverse decision

dmcowen674

No Lifer
One more nail in the coffin for the Internet and closer to the birth of the discriminatory "Internets".

Should I start a poll of how many people will leave the U.S. once the internet is split between the rich and poor?

9-6-2007 Feds OK fee for priority Web traffic

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department on Thursday said Internet service providers should be allowed to charge a fee for priority Web traffic.

The agency told the Federal Communications Commission, which is reviewing high-speed Internet practices, that it is opposed to "Net neutrality," the principle that all Internet sites should be equally accessible to any Web user.

The agency said providing different levels of service is common, efficient and could satisfy consumers. As an example, it cited that the U.S. Postal Service charges customers different guarantees and speeds for package delivery, ranging from bulk mail to overnight delivery.

Supporters of Internet regulation have said that phone and cable companies could discriminate against certain Web site and services.

===========================================
7-3-07 Breaking News - FBI & IRS raid Stevens home

It's starting to look like there is signs of a crack in the protective shield that has been over many long time Senators and there should be.

They haven't been representing the people for a long time.

They are representing Corporations.

Calling it "Earmarks" does not make it right.

What has taken so long to expose these people for what they are and toss them out of office and into jail cells?

7-16-2007 "Tubes" Senator Being Investigated For Corruption

"Senator Ted Stevens, Republican of Alaska, is being investigated in a federal corruption probe that has implicated his son Ben. Part of the case involves a fishing co-op whose members allegedly paid Ben Stevens $500,000 to get a federal bailout from his father."
The other Alaskan senator, also a Republican, is under a cloud as well.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7-9-2007 Forecast for Young, Stevens clouds up

More recently, Young -- the former chairman of the House Transportation Committee -- is taking heat for directing money to a Florida road project study. The money was not sought by the district's Republican congressman but would benefit a major contributor to Young's campaign.

"When you are chairman of a committee, you represent the whole nation; you don't represent one district, which is in my case is one state," Young said. "Earmarks are good for the country and good for the people you represent.

"That is the role of a congressman. If you can't get money for your district, you shouldn't be in Congress," he said.

Stevens is facing scrutiny from federal investigators for a home remodeling project, an investigation that dovetailed with a corruption investigation into state officials.

Meanwhile, his son Ben, a former Alaska Senate president, was one of six state lawmakers who had their offices raided by the FBI last year.
 
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Not surprising. These guys were always very shady.

-------------------------
dmcowen674

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, I am a Moron. That's been proven many times...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm just a Moron, why would you agree with anything I have to say all of a sudden??? 😕
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Not surprising. These guys were always very shady.

-------------------------
dmcowen674

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, I am a Moron. That's been proven many times...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm just a Moron, why would you agree with anything I have to say all of a sudden???
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day

 
Any guess at what percentage of Senators are doing things similar to these two?
Between 25 and 50% perhaps?

Sadly, unless these guys broke the law I doubt anything will happen. They keep getting elected because of all the power they have so the people in their state will just ignore this stuff.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Not surprising. These guys were always very shady.

-------------------------
dmcowen674

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, I am a Moron. That's been proven many times...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm just a Moron, why would you agree with anything I have to say all of a sudden??? 😕

So, you post a couple news stories, add in a single sentence that states the obvious, and suddenly you think I think you're a genius?

Please.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Any guess at what percentage of Senators are doing things similar to these two?
Between 25 and 50% perhaps?

Sadly, unless these guys broke the law I doubt anything will happen. They keep getting elected because of all the power they have so the people in their state will just ignore this stuff.

That falls under the...


Ask someone how well congress is doing. Answer awful, should be thrown out all of them, etc...

Ask someone how well THEIR congress man/senator is doing. Answer oh great we need more like them, etc...
 
Ben has always been on the edge of ethical credibility... to put it mildly. One of those guys who is always under investigation but never seems to end up in trouble. He was the second choice behind Lisa Murkowski to replace Frank when he ran for governor. Lisa won because she was the new Governor's daugher... but also because Ben would have been like a crack-head at a Motley Crue party if he'd been sent to Washington.

Uncle Ted has been shady forever. So has Don Young. But for a small state desperate for federal dollars they have been gods. What's the line from XXX? Never send a mouse into a snake pit. Send in your own snake. That's Ted and Don. And it was Frank too. Frank brought his crap back to Alaska when he ran for governor. It seemed like a good idea at the time but nobody in Alaska wants that crap in their back yard. (Enter Sarah Palin)

When Alaska sends another representative to Washington you guys are going to long for the days of Ted, Frank and Don. Mark my words. If there is one thing Alaskans understand about DC politics it's that:

1. Seniority rules.
2. The smarter and slimier the SOB is the more money he can bring back.
3. If he's that smart and slimy... they don't want him working in the state.

For some states, being a senator/congressman means winning the beauty contest. For Alaska it means passing the smell test. Does he smell like acorrupted, constipated skunk? Yes? Perfect. Off to Washington with you. Send back as much money as you can before you get indicted.
 
I can't remember the Southern Senators name--but there was the quip that if his district got one more naval base, it would sink. Alaska is not the only State that plays that game---but for a late comer---Alaska sure does learn fast.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Any guess at what percentage of Senators are doing things similar to these two?
Between 25 and 50% perhaps?

Sadly, unless these guys broke the law I doubt anything will happen. They keep getting elected because of all the power they have so the people in their state will just ignore this stuff.

Between the House and Senate, 99%. I have a hard time believing that even 5 or 6 are completely clean.
 
7-30-2007 FBI, IRS search home of Sen. Ted Stevens

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Agents from the FBI and Internal Revenue Service on Monday searched the home of U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, an official said.

Investigators arrived at the Republican senator's home in Girdwood shortly before 2:30 p.m. Alaska time, said Dave Heller, FBI assistant special agent.

Heller said he could not comment on the nature of the investigation.

The Justice Department has been looking into the seven-term senator's relationship with a wealthy contractor as part of a public corruption investigation
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
7-30-2007 FBI, IRS search home of Sen. Ted Stevens

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Agents from the FBI and Internal Revenue Service on Monday searched the home of U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, an official said.

Investigators arrived at the Republican senator's home in Girdwood shortly before 2:30 p.m. Alaska time, said Dave Heller, FBI assistant special agent.

Heller said he could not comment on the nature of the investigation.

The Justice Department has been looking into the seven-term senator's relationship with a wealthy contractor as part of a public corruption investigation

I wonder if that's tied into the lobby scandal that has been locking up people in the Alaska Legislature.

Edit: Yup! Bill Allen and the VECO boys. :laugh:

http://www.adn.com/news/politi...9179115p-9095789c.html

FBI, IRS searching Stevens' Girdwood house

Anchorage Daily News

Published: July 30, 2007
Last Modified: July 30, 2007 at 03:17 PM (Re: 7:17 EST)

Federal law enforcement agents are currently searching the Girdwood home of Alaska U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens.

"All I can say is that agents from the FBI and IRS are currently conducting a search at that residence," said Dave Heller, the assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Anchorage office. The search began earlier this afternoon, he said. It's the only such search warrant currently being served, he said.

Shortly before 3 p.m., a number of federal agents could be seen outside the house, along with a half-dozen government SUVs. Others were inside. It couldn't immediately be determined what, if anything, was being taken from the house. Agents at the house wouldn't answer questions.

Heller, the FBI spokesman in Anchorage, directed other questions to the U.S. Justice Department's Public Integrity Section in Washington. A spokesman there had no comment.

In Washington, FBI spokesman Richard Kolko confirmed to the Associated Press that FBI and IRS agents "are conducting a court authorized search warrant in Girdwood, Alaska."

Federal investigators and a grand jury looking into public corruption in Alaska have been asking questions about a 2000 remodeling project that more than doubled the size of Stevens' home -- particularly the involvment of the oil field services firm Veco. Three contractors who worked on the project told the Daily News that their records had been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury, and others connected with the work and with Stevens had been interviewed.

One of the contractors who worked on the job said he was hired by Veco CEO Bill Allen for the job, and while his bills were paid by Stevens and his wife, Catherine, invoices were reviewed first by Veco.

Allen and a Veco vice president pleaded guilty in May to bribery, extortion and other charges connected with paying off state legislators.

Two weeks ago, Stevens told reporters that money for the remodeling came out of his own pocket.

"As a practical matter, I will tell you. We paid every bill that was given to us," Stevens told reporters. "Every bill that was sent to us has been paid, personally, with our own money, and that's all there is to it. It's our own money."

Beyond that, Stevens has issued a written statement repeatedly in recent months saying he would have no comment on the ongoing corruption probe.

A total of four former state lawmakers have been charged with bribery, along with a prison-industry lobbyist. One, former Anchorage Rep. Tom Anderson was convicted earlier this summer of bribery and other crimes for taking money from the lobbyist for a private prison company.

Last August, federal agents served more than 20 search warrants across the state, including at the offices of six state legislators, including Ted Stevens' son, Ben Stevens, who at the time was the president of the state Senate.

Ted Stevens, 83, is the longest-serving Republican senator.

Oh man... if he got messed up in that he is sooo screwed. Two of my former clients are either in jail or on their way over this stuff. I have to look for my "Corrupt Bastards Club" thread. That's where it all started.

Link to THE original thread from last year.


Cliff's Notes version of the investigation that Stevens has fallen into...

Bill Allen and Bill Bobrick were former clients of mine. :laugh:

 
http://www.reuters.com/article.../idUSN3044617620070730

WASHINGTON, July 30 (Reuters) - The FBI and IRS have searched the home of Republican Sen. Ted Stevens in a ski resort in Alaska as part of an investigation into his links with an oil-services company, officials said on Monday.

"The FBI and IRS are conducting a court-authorized search warrant in Girdwood, Alaska," an FBI spokesman said in Washington, but gave no further details.

The Alaskan politician, the longest-serving Republican in the U.S Senate in history, issued a statement saying: "My attorneys were advised this morning that federal agents wished to search my home in Girdwood in connection with an ongoing investigation.

"I continue to believe this investigation should proceed to its conclusion without any appearance that I have attempted to influence the outcome," the statement said.

Girdwood is about 40 miles south of Anchorage, the state's largest city.


Stevens is the subject of a grand-jury investigation into his links with managers of VECO Corp., the state's largest oil-services company, as well as numerous unrelated fisheries matters.

In May, Bill Allen, then the chief executive of VECO, along with a vice president, Rick Smith, pleaded guilty to several federal corruption charges. The two admitted paying over $400,000 to bribe Alaska lawmakers.

Allen had been a financial supporter of Stevens' campaigns and a partner with him on a race horse. He also oversaw the a project to remodel Stevens' Girdwood home in 2000, vetting bills and construction work.

The Anchorage Daily News has reported that contractors who worked on the remodeling of Stevens' home had their records subpoenaed by the federal grand jury.

Stevens is the former chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee. During his tenure as chairman of the committee, Stevens developed a reputation of delivering federal funds to public works projects in the state. (Additional reporting by Dai Wakabayashi in Seattle)



I guess the "bridge to nowhere" is looking pretty good to Senator Stevens about now.

 
Well guess who will have the job of Prosecuting all these Alaskan scum? Come to think of it, honest Alberto Gonzales himself. Anyone care to guess how long it will take to sort through the evidence and actually bring charges. And I certainly hope someone has been more competent than the people at the Justice Department who are supposed to be prosecuting our beloved Rep. Jefferson.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
The Republican Party. Bringing honor and dignity back to the....oh shit...not again...never mind...:roll:

Most ethical Congress evah eviscerates earmark reform bill

One must be absolutely delusional to attribute abuse and corruption with any segment of Washington DC, instead of properly attributing it to the absurd size and power of our government. They are not fit to control the power and tax money you are so aptly ready to deliver to them.

The only proper response is less government, less tax money to Washington. They are not to be trusted with it.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: BoomerD
The Republican Party. Bringing honor and dignity back to the....oh shit...not again...never mind...:roll:

Most ethical Congress evah eviscerates earmark reform bill

One must be absolutely delusional to attribute abuse and corruption with any segment of Washington DC, instead of properly attributing it to the absurd size and power of our government. They are not fit to control the power and tax money you are so aptly ready to deliver to them.

The only proper response is less government, less tax money to Washington. They are not to be trusted with it.


Why don't we start off with all the republicans and money spent on military.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: BoomerD
The Republican Party. Bringing honor and dignity back to the....oh shit...not again...never mind...:roll:

Most ethical Congress evah eviscerates earmark reform bill

One must be absolutely delusional to attribute abuse and corruption with any segment of Washington DC, instead of properly attributing it to the absurd size and power of our government. They are not fit to control the power and tax money you are so aptly ready to deliver to them.

The only proper response is less government, less tax money to Washington. They are not to be trusted with it.

Well, I'd agree to much of what you said, as I do believe we have the best government money can (and usually does) buy, but since the Repubs went on their high-horse 7 years ago, and proclaimed themselves the party of family values and bragged how they were bringing honor and dignity back to the White House...I just enjoy rubbing the noses of the Kool-aid drinkers in it when their heros get toppled...
Personally, I don't think a politician can get beyond city councilman (if that) without "exchanging favors" with someone else...and I have a REAL problem with our elected officials being in the pockets of corporations.
This was supposed to be a government of "WE THE PEOPLE," NOT "WE THE CORPORATIONS."
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: BoomerD
The Republican Party. Bringing honor and dignity back to the....oh shit...not again...never mind...:roll:

Most ethical Congress evah eviscerates earmark reform bill

One must be absolutely delusional to attribute abuse and corruption with any segment of Washington DC, instead of properly attributing it to the absurd size and power of our government. They are not fit to control the power and tax money you are so aptly ready to deliver to them.

The only proper response is less government, less tax money to Washington. They are not to be trusted with it.

Well, I'd agree to much of what you said, as I do believe we have the best government money can (and usually does) buy, but since the Repubs went on their high-horse 7 years ago, and proclaimed themselves the party of family values and bragged how they were bringing honor and dignity back to the White House...I just enjoy rubbing the noses of the Kool-aid drinkers in it when their heros get toppled...
Personally, I don't think a politician can get beyond city councilman (if that) without "exchanging favors" with someone else...and I have a REAL problem with our elected officials being in the pockets of corporations.
This was supposed to be a government of "WE THE PEOPLE," NOT "WE THE CORPORATIONS."

I don't think those contentions are really valid. Yeah, Young and Stevens are republicans when they get on a ballot, but they aren't party shills and don't always get along well with the party in general. They aren't in Washington for the Republicans. They are there for Alaska. (and themselves apparently - my post from weeks ago in this thread for the exlaination of why they get a pass from alaskans) Make no mistake about it... They got elected (and re-re-re-re-re-reelected) to bring home the bacon. Even if it meant they had to play a bit dirty with their own party.

I'd put them both as independents first, republicans second. And even then the R is more about convenience than anything else. Yeah, they both lean conservative on most issues... And yeah, they parrot the party line when it suits them. But if there was a "Get all the money for Alaska you can" party they would be in it. These guys rarely make national headlines (Before last year anyway - tubes and bridges and whatnot), they don't go chasing the nearest news crew for camera time. They just racked up their seniority and took the committee positions that would allow them to best funnel money back to their state. Quiet, methodical and under the radar.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
They just racked up their seniority and took the committee positions that would allow them to best funnel money back to their state. Quiet, methodical and under the radar.


And apparently back to their own pockets as well...😉
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
They just racked up their seniority and took the committee positions that would allow them to best funnel money back to their state. Quiet, methodical and under the radar.


And apparently back to their own pockets as well...😉

Ha... We'll see. Looks like a good 'ol boy arrangement between Stevens and Allen. TBH I'm surprised this hasn't happened already. I'm guessing that in the process of investigating the VECO/State legislature bribary thing they found some odd stuff between Allen and Stevens and Allen and Young. Start kicking over logs and you never know what you'll find underneath.

But like I said in my post waaay back up in the thread... Bring back whatever you can until you get indicted.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: BoomerD
The Republican Party. Bringing honor and dignity back to the....oh shit...not again...never mind...:roll:

Most ethical Congress evah eviscerates earmark reform bill

One must be absolutely delusional to attribute abuse and corruption with any segment of Washington DC, instead of properly attributing it to the absurd size and power of our government. They are not fit to control the power and tax money you are so aptly ready to deliver to them.

The only proper response is less government, less tax money to Washington. They are not to be trusted with it.

Well, I'd agree to much of what you said, as I do believe we have the best government money can (and usually does) buy, but since the Repubs went on their high-horse 7 years ago, and proclaimed themselves the party of family values and bragged how they were bringing honor and dignity back to the White House...

I just enjoy rubbing the noses of the Kool-aid drinkers in it when their heros get toppled...


Personally, I don't think a politician can get beyond city councilman (if that) without "exchanging favors" with someone else...and I have a REAL problem with our elected officials being in the pockets of corporations.

This was supposed to be a government of "WE THE PEOPLE," NOT "WE THE CORPORATIONS."

:thumbsup:
 
Back
Top