The I (we) were right about the Bush economic policies for 7 years thread.

techs

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This is not gloating. No one is happy that the US economy is on the brink.

This is intended to educate those still open to the truth.

For 7 years I (we) watched as Bush and the Republicans systematically destroyed our economy. We watched as the brainless, propagandized, Fox News following morons kept posting how home ownership is ?at an all time high?.
Yet, anyone who had an IQ higher than 85 and had ever read a book knew the Bush economy was built on borrowed money, dangerously low Fed loan rates and increased government spending. We all knew that the insane loan practices of the mortage companies were a ticking time bomb.
We all knew that Bush did not just relinquish government oversight of the financial markets, but was actively aiding them in their destructive practices.
Now that we are just beginning to pay the price of the not just failed, but insane, Bush policies it is time to talk about what else I (we) are right about.

The outsourcing of America?s economy is the second time bomb. The same people in the Republican party, Fox News and financial networks that told us the insane policies we were following was ok are the same people who are telling us outsourcing has been good for America.
Well, sorry, it is a far larger problem then the financial problems we face in the markets today. The ?service economy? is a load of crap. Americans working at fast food outlets and mowing peoples lawns is not a healthy economy. In fact, the large number of low paying jobs in the service economy are the first jobs that will go in a recession. Service jobs don?t help the US in relation to other countries. Despite a MASSIVE decrease in the value of the dollar our trade surplus is actually going up. Despite a massive decrease in the value of the dollar against almost every other country, the one country that should have seen the most massive increase in its value, the Chinese Yuan, has virtually stayed the same.
One day soon, due to political conflicts, Chinese internal needs, or thousand other reasons the Chinese will raise the value of the Yuan. And what is happening now in the markets will seem like a sunny day in May. And if the Chinese ever really trade their currency on the open market it is not just Great Depression bad but will change America profoundly, forever.

So, pay attention. I (we) who were right for 7 years are giving you fair warning.
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JS80
OP you are pretty retarded at economics.

Wow. Just the kind of responses you and others gave when I (we) were warning you for 7 years.
Gotta love the intelligence of the brainwashed!

 

heyheybooboo

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Why do you they call it the 'Laugher' Curve?

John McCain = More Republican Party VooDoo Economics

According to Nobel prize laureate James Tobin:

"The 'Laffer Curve' idea that tax cuts would actually increase revenues turned out to deserve the ridicule with which sober economists had greeted it in 1981."
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: techs
Gotta love the intelligence of the brainwashed!
oh, the ironing!!

Your Blame Game skills are a joke Laruso!

so... fucking... retarded...
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: techs
This is not gloating. No one is happy that the US economy is on the brink.

This is intended to educate those still open to the truth.

For 7 years I (we) watched as Bush and the Republicans systematically destroyed our economy.

We watched as the brainless, propagandized, Fox News following morons kept posting how home ownership is ?at an all time high?.

Yet, anyone who had an IQ higher than 85 and had ever read a book knew the Bush economy was built on borrowed money, dangerously low Fed loan rates and increased government spending.

We all knew that the insane loan practices of the mortage companies were a ticking time bomb.

We all knew that Bush did not just relinquish government oversight of the financial markets, but was actively aiding them in their destructive practices.

Now that we are just beginning to pay the price of the not just failed, but insane, Bush policies it is time to talk about what else I (we) are right about.

The outsourcing of America?s economy is the second time bomb.

The same people in the Republican party, Fox News and financial networks that told us the insane policies we were following was ok are the same people who are telling us outsourcing has been good for America.

So, pay attention. I (we) who were right for 7 years are giving you fair warning.

Sorry but I have to gloat.

I have 7 years of being chastised to let out.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: JS80
OP you are pretty retarded at economics.

Wow. Just the kind of responses you and others gave when I (we) were warning you for 7 years.
Gotta love the intelligence of the brainwashed!

You think Bush invented the credit market and global trade? You are severely handicapped at economics.
 

Jaskalas

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So it?s the end of the world unless we, what, give the Democratic Party a super majority + presidency?

I recall the Republican Party saying terrorists will kill people unless you give them a super majority + presidency.

Glad you've found an issue to strike fear with, I was concerned you were feeling left out.
 

BoberFett

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Meh, I realized what a house of cards the US debt based economy was 10 years ago. None of this comes as any shock to me.

But blaming it on current Republicans is silly. This problem started long before W got to the White House, and it's not just a government problem. It's a consumer problem.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Vic
Who let techs out of his cage?


Where Vic says Republicans get their talking points (from his sig)

Taser Gate - is a bogus issure.

I wonder if Rush has a spell checker?
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Meh, I realized what a house of cards the US debt based economy was 10 years ago. None of this comes as any shock to me.

But blaming it on current Republicans is silly. This problem started long before W got to the White House, and it's not just a government problem. It's a consumer problem.

:thumbsup: X10
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
So it?s the end of the world unless we, what, give the Democratic Party a super majority + presidency?

I recall the Republican Party saying terrorists will kill people unless you give them a super majority + presidency.

Glad you've found an issue to strike fear with, I was concerned you were feeling left out.

Funny how the two sides look exactly the same to anyone paying attention. People like you and I have seen it for years, but the party faithful don't get it. When the other team uses FUD it's because they're evil. When their team uses FUD it's because they're just trying to save us.

Same shit, different day.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Vic
Who let techs out of his cage?

Where Vic says Republicans get their talking points (from his sig)

Taser Gate - is a bogus issure.

I wonder if Rush has a spell checker?

It's a Limbaugh fan site, not actually his own site. I linked it because it's like a one-stop shop for his most ridiculous talking points.

If you want to go to his real site though, he always has good stuff there too. Why, did you know that black community activists, led by Obama, are single-handedly responsible for the housing crisis? That's what Rush said yesterday.
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Vic
Who let techs out of his cage?

Where Vic says Republicans get their talking points (from his sig)

Taser Gate - is a bogus issure.

I wonder if Rush has a spell checker?

It's a Limbaugh fan site, not actually his own site. I linked it because it's like a one-stop shop for his most ridiculous talking points.

If you want to go to his real site though, he always has good stuff there too. Why, did you know that black community activists, led by Obama, are single-handedly responsible for the housing crisis? That's what Rush said yesterday.

Crikey! I knew it! The mortgage crisis is Obama's fault!
Thanks, Rush!

 

The-Noid

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The Laffer curve does work, it just relies on the fact that government not spend more than they bring in. Number of people employed in the US and tax revenues were at an all time high in March of this year. Government just spends more than they have.
 

alchemize

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I (we) think these (2-3) P&N idiots who think they predicted anything economically are about as accurate as a tabloid soothsayer or the guy on the corner with the "The End Is Nigh!" sandwich board.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Yoxxy
The Laffer curve does work, it just relies on the fact that government not spend more than they bring in. Number of people employed in the US and tax revenues were at an all time high in March of this year. Government just spends more than they have.

No, while tax cuts increase government revenue, they don't make up for the loss due to the tax cuts. And that's without taking into account interest on the borrowed money.

Wow. After I (we) being right for 7 years and them being wrong for 7 years, its amazing how people still just mindlessly repeat the propaganda they were taught.

Here's a good one. "I heard it by a number of financial tv and radio analysts'
Here's a good answer. "Do you ever watch or listen to the commercials? Aren't they by financial institutions. Think maybe thats why they don't provide honest info?"

 

techs

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I (we) think these (2-3) P&N idiots who think they predicted anything economically are about as accurate as a tabloid soothsayer or the guy on the corner with the "The End Is Nigh!" sandwich board.


Yeah, massive borrowing and spending? Hugely questionable loans in huge numbers?
How could I possibly be right when I predicted financial disaster?
Must be blind luck.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I (we) think these (2-3) P&N idiots who think they predicted anything economically are about as accurate as a tabloid soothsayer or the guy on the corner with the "The End Is Near!" sandwich board.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Or as I told someone else the other day, it's no great feat to predict doom and gloom and the end of the world because the 2nd Law makes it inevitable. It's like predicting the sunset at high noon. No shit, Sherlock. The question is always not if change will come but when and how will be deal with it/be prepared for it. And that's why the sandwich board guys are jokes.
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: alchemize
I (we) think these (2-3) P&N idiots who think they predicted anything economically are about as accurate as a tabloid soothsayer or the guy on the corner with the "The End Is Near!" sandwich board.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Or as I told someone else the other day, it's no great feat to predict doom and gloom and the end of the world because the 2nd Law makes it inevitable. It's like predicting the sunset at high noon. No shit, Sherlock. The question is always not if change will come but when and how will be deal with it/be prepared for it. And that's why the sandwich board guys are jokes.


Yeah, massive borrowing and spending? Hugely questionable loans in huge numbers?
How could I possibly be right when I predicted financial disaster?
Must be blind luck.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: alchemize
I (we) think these (2-3) P&N idiots who think they predicted anything economically are about as accurate as a tabloid soothsayer or the guy on the corner with the "The End Is Near!" sandwich board.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Or as I told someone else the other day, it's no great feat to predict doom and gloom and the end of the world because the 2nd Law makes it inevitable. It's like predicting the sunset at high noon. No shit, Sherlock. The question is always not if change will come but when and how will be deal with it/be prepared for it. And that's why the sandwich board guys are jokes.


Yeah, massive borrowing and spending? Hugely questionable loans in huge numbers?
How could I possibly be right when I predicted financial disaster?
Must be blind luck.

What you're missing here is that countless people were saying the same thing, including myself. The criticism being used against you here is that seeing the problem doesn't mean anything when you don't have any solutions.
Like I said, it's like predicting the sunset at high noon. Your OMG it's gonna get dark and cold! never helped the rest of us to build a shelter.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, massive borrowing and spending? Hugely questionable loans in huge numbers?
Those statements effectively describe the cumulative actions of both political parties for the last 20 years, if not longer.