The hunt for illegals is on.

[Mai72]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/kelly-guidance-on-immigration-and-border-security/index.html

What's next?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

They could always go home. I don't think that choice was given to the Jews and others. I don't think Democratic Franklin Roosevelt even gave that choice to the Japanese and American citizens he tossed in camps.

 

[MongGrel]

They could always go home. I don't think that choice was given to the Jews and others. I don't think Democratic Franklin Roosevelt even gave that choice to the Japanese and American citizens he tossed in camps.

More derp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

 

[Ackmed]

This comparison is idiotic, but not really surprising around here and from the OP.

 

[sandorski]

If there's an effort to deport millions, some kind of processing centers will be necessary to handle the volume. That doesn't necessarily equate to Concentration Camps though. It would still be a clusterfuck.

 

[Mai72]

This comparison is idiotic, but not really surprising around here and from the OP.

OK, I might have gone a bit too far with my title.

But, you do have to admit that many foreigners are now concerned. Both legal and illegal. Maybe not Auschwitz, but what about camps to house the millions of illegals who reside in America. Many are hard-working good natured people. They deserve better.

It sucks. We need to do this differently. Or else, nobody will ever visit America.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

More derp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

What is the logic in posting a Wikipedia link to Unit 731 in the context of taj's post?

 

[Sea Ray]

These raids were planned long before Trump was elected:

David Marin, Immigration and Customs Enforcement's field office director for enforcement and removal operations in greater Los Angeles, said the agency carries out these operations two or three times a year in his region. He says the California operation was in the planning stages "before the administration came out with their current executive orders."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...k-immigration-raids-trump-20170210-story.html

Trump is merely doing what the Constitution demands: enforcing existing laws. If you don't like what's going on, change the law. We can't pick and choose which laws we ask our executive branch to enforce

 

[Humpy]

Many are hard-working good natured people. They deserve better.

True.

We should exchange them for all the fat and stupid welfare recipients. Maybe for every Mexican that gets let in we chuck three worthless Americans into Canada.

 

[HTFOff]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/kelly-guidance-on-immigration-and-border-security/index.html

What's next?

Concentration Camps? Auschwitz?

I just got done watching a documentary on the Jews and Germany. Sadly, this is how it begins.

Mind blown.

Stay woke bruh!

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Please, can we have a bit less hyperbole when discussing serious issues?

This isn't 1939.

Yes there is still racism and xenophobia, and it helped get a person elected President, but lets not get carried away.

 

[1prophet]

You want to fix the illegal problem, start going after the businesses that hire them and make public examples of them and their owners, the illegal problem will take care of itself.

as for those that will cry about higher prices, you have NO RIGHT to another persons labor under conditions you yourself would refuse to work under,

especially you cheap ass hypocrites that want every rule, regulation, and TAX on businesses enforced like 15 dollar an hour minimum wage, but turn around and patronize those businesses that circumvent all that through the use of illegals and in your twisted minds rationalize it as a good thing so you don't have to fight the fishhooks in your pocket/wallets.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-after-joining-day-without-immigrants-n722991

At Ben's Kosher Delicatessen Restaurant & Caterers in Long Island, New York, 25 workers were fired Friday when they returned to work, according to Telemundo 47. Police escorted the workers from the restaurant — most of whom were undocumented and have worked there for years.

Some social media users are calling on others to boycott the small businesses and restaurants that fired immigrant workers.

 

[Svnla]

We should not mistreat anyone but everyone should follow immigration rules and laws, can't just sneak in here/overstay visas and then scream "why you broke up our families...whaaaaaaa".

Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?

 

[Chiropteran]

Yep. As a Trump supporter, I just got the email inquiry for suggested initial subjects. As a faithful loyal subject, I will be replying with a list of the biggest left wing trolls from this forum.

 

[trenchfoot]

Agree with 1prophet on this, and here's my take on this line of reasoning:

Partly, Trump has a need to appease his followers and he's using this issue just as the GOP have been using it for their fear and hate propaganda campaigns. But why isn't Trump going after the other half of this equation; you know, all of those American lawbreakers who hire these illegals? Because it's Trump's billionaire buddies and all of those other businesses that "couldn't survive" if they had to refrain from hiring foreign slave labor, right?

So if I can understand this more than simple line of reasoning, why can't Trump's troops get a grasp on this and have them go after these criminal unpatriotic Americans who hire illegals with the same zest and zeal as they do with those folks who cross the border knowing that work is available to them if they can make it that far?

Why isn't the GOP, of which constitutes those conservative politicians AND their constituents of whom are constantly ranting and wailing about securing the border, going after those businesses who freely exploit the illegals without being prosecuted when they all could be "persuaded" to do their patriotic duty by hiring American workers instead of illegals?

Why isn't the simple fact that "No jobs = No reason to cross" isn't the main focus for the GOP and its constituents and where all of their efforts to solve the illegal immigrant "problem" get applied to?

Now that the Repubs have complete control of the gov't, why aren't they prioritizing laws that put some teeth and some real hurt into hiring illegals? So much cheaper and much more effective and doable than building this huge freak'in wall that for all practical purposes won't be anywhere near as effective as passing REAL laws that every business can understand, deploy and maintain? If these businesses are the ones that have been/are now profiting from freely hiring illegals without penalty, shouldn't they be the ones held responsible for screening out applicants who don't belong here when/if ever the Repub owned gov't write laws that are practical and wholly enforceable? As they are at the present, the laws on hiring illegals are so full of intentionally included holes and obfuscations as to render them feckless and meaningless.

The Dems are out of this game. The Repubs can now do whatever it takes to solve the illegal immigrant problem. Obviously, building a wall as a rallying cry, as red meat for the sector of their constituency who are passionate about this has gone down the road. No more BS from the Repub legislators about this. The Repubs own this problem now. They can't pass this off on the Dems any more.

Time to put up or forever shut up about this issue.

 

[Jhhnn]

We should not mistreat anyone but everyone should follow immigration rules and laws, can't just sneak in here/overstay visas and then scream "why you broke up our families...whaaaaaaa".

Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?

Your hatred for illegals is irrational. According to Pew, 2/3 have been in this country over 10 years, working, contributing & often being bread winners for American citizen children & kids who've been raised American since they were small. Those kids didn't get to pick their parents but many are American Citizens nonetheless. Their welfare should be our primary consideration & deporting their parents sure as Hell won't help them at all.

WTF are you afraid of, anyway? This country has assimilated massive waves of immigrants & added their distinctiveness to our own. Yeh, I borrowed that line from the Borg but we really are like that in a cultural sense. Our converts just embrace us & our great country willingly.

 

[crashtech]

It's hilarious to me to see Godwin's Law come into play right in the thread title. Way to go!

 

[Svnla]

Your hatred for illegals is irrational. According to Pew, 2/3 have been in this country over 10 years, working, contributing & often being bread winners for American citizen children & kids who've been raised American since they were small. Those kids didn't get to pick their parents but many are American Citizens nonetheless. Their welfare should be our primary consideration & deporting their parents sure as Hell won't help them at all.

WTF are you afraid of, anyway? This country has assimilated massive waves of immigrants & added their distinctiveness to our own. Yeh, I borrowed that line from the Borg but we really are like that in a cultural sense. Our converts just embrace us & our great country willingly.

Hate? Where did I say that in my post (expressed or implied)? Kindly quote the EXACT words of hate in my previous post, I will wait.

Funny how you ranted and ranted but "glossed/ignored" this question from my post "Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?"

Making excuses for ILLEGALS is irrational, immoral, and unjust. No more excuses. Enough is enough.

Why the hell group x and y have to wait for years and years to do it LEGALLY while group z does not have to? And liberals/democrats have the nerve to say "equality", "justice"? <eyes rolling>

 

[OutHouse]

Holy balls, you liberals have gone off the rails. concentration camps? fuck why stop there why not add, poison gas chamber and crematoriums. if you are going to make ridiculous statements like that, may as go all the way.

 

[OutHouse]

Your hatred for illegals is irrational. According to Pew, 2/3 have been in this country over 10 years, working, contributing & often being bread winners for American citizen children & kids who've been raised American since they were small. Those kids didn't get to pick their parents but many are American Citizens nonetheless. Their welfare should be our primary consideration & deporting their parents sure as Hell won't help them at all.

WTF are you afraid of, anyway? This country has assimilated massive waves of immigrants & added their distinctiveness to our own. Yeh, I borrowed that line from the Borg but we really are like that in a cultural sense. Our converts just embrace us & our great country willingly.

blah blah blah, laws dont matter. blah blah blah.laws dont matter. blah blah blah laws dont matter. blah blah blah

 

[Jhhnn]

Hate? Where did I say that in my post (expressed or implied)? Kindly quote the EXACT words of hate in my previous post, I will wait.

Funny how you ranted and ranted but "glossed/ignored" this question from my post "Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?"

Making excuses for ILLEGALS is irrational, immoral, and unjust. No more excuses. Enough is enough.

Oh, puh-leeze! Your obvious hard on for illegals has been obvious for some while.

 

[Jhhnn]

blah blah blah, laws dont matter. blah blah blah.laws dont matter. blah blah blah laws dont matter. blah blah blah

Yeh, fuck those American kids. Nasty little brown bastids shoulda picked better parents.

 

[Svnla]

Oh, puh-leeze! Your obvious hard on for illegals has been obvious for some while.

I am still waiting for you to quote my "hate" for ILLEGALS. As I would for your answer to my question above and here it is again... "Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?"

Take your time. Any ILLEGALS supporters are free to jump in to answer my question anytime. Don't be shy. Do tell me how it is "fair", "justice", "equality" that liberals/democrats are preaching all those years.

 

[Moonbeam]

They could always go home. I don't think that choice was given to the Jews and others. I don't think Democratic Franklin Roosevelt even gave that choice to the Japanese and American citizens he tossed in camps.

How is it that you can throw something a democrat did in the face of liberals and support the same kind of actions when done by your own. You don't notice what a nut case you have to be to compartmentalize like that?

 

[Moonbeam]

I am still waiting for you to quote my "hate" for ILLEGALS. As I would for your answer to my question above and here it is again... "Why even bother to have rules and laws if we do not enforce them or let certain group gets away with them years after years?"

Take your time. Any ILLEGALS supporters are free to jump in to answer my question anytime. Don't be shy. Do tell me how it is "fair", "justice", "equality" that liberals/democrats are preaching all those years.

You do know, I would imagine that people go whaaaaaaa when they are hurt, right and what you are asking for and have no sympathy about is that this kind of action will create a tremendous amount of hurt, not just hurt for them but hurt all around. You will also be hurting yourself because your attitude of indifference to the pain of others just makes you an asshole. How can that be good for your mental health. So yes, you have no natural human decency and compassion because you are infected with hate. People have broken the law and they should be held accountable. And you don't mind if it fucks their kids while you're at it.
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As a liberal I have held the government in contempt for years because they allow people to cut in line, Democrats for race identity reasons and Republicans for the cheap labor. But once you have allowed an issue to grow to massive proportions and telegraphed to the world your indifference you can't just simply reverse course without doing greater evil. You have to pay for past fuck ups. You can't just do a 180. We should have never just pulled out of Iraq for the same reason. You accrue moral obligations when you fuck up. You're too much of an egotist to see your own culpability.