The Hobbit...Trilogy?

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adairusmc

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Tom Bombadillo!

Arent you thinking of LOTR? I don't remember Bambadil in The Hobbit, just Beorn.

Maybe they will take a bunch of prequel stuff from the Simarillion and incorporate that into the hobbit, or something.
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.
 

sswingle

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: sswingle
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?

I remember reading about it in the hobbit, which was why Gandalf had to depart before entering mirkwood and running into all the spiders.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: sswingle
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?

there was a part in the Hobbit when Gandalf was all "later bitches" and disappeared for half the book.

it was later revealed (in LotR?) that during that time he and the white council were fighting the necromancer in Mirkwood.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Tom Bombadillo!

Arent you thinking of LOTR? I don't remember Bambadil in The Hobbit, just Beorn.

Maybe they will take a bunch of prequel stuff from the Simarillion and incorporate that into the hobbit, or something.

what? Bilbo gets eaten by a willow tree, bombadil saves him and takes him home, bombadil's wife is hot, they sing a lot and bilbo goes on his way, only to get caught by a barrow-wight and bombadil has to come to the rescue again. iirc this is where he gets his mithril armor
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: sswingle
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?

there was a part in the Hobbit when Gandalf was all "later bitches" and disappeared for half the book.

it was later revealed (in LotR?) that during that time he and the white council were fighting the necromancer in Mirkwood.


yea he teamed up with that thar brown wizard R-something
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Tom Bombadillo!

Arent you thinking of LOTR? I don't remember Bambadil in The Hobbit, just Beorn.

Maybe they will take a bunch of prequel stuff from the Simarillion and incorporate that into the hobbit, or something.

what? Bilbo gets eaten by a willow tree, bombadil saves him and takes him home, bombadil's wife is hot, they sing a lot and bilbo goes on his way, only to get caught by a barrow-wight and bombadil has to come to the rescue again. iirc this is where he gets his mithril armor

Replace the word Bilbo with Frodo and then you're right. The mithril armor was a gift from the dwarf king for aiding them in getting back the treasure.
 

nageov3t

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didn't Bilbo get the armor from the troll cave? trying to remember, I haven't read The Hobbit since junior high.

edit: nm, see post above mine!
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Tom Bombadillo!

Arent you thinking of LOTR? I don't remember Bambadil in The Hobbit, just Beorn.

Maybe they will take a bunch of prequel stuff from the Simarillion and incorporate that into the hobbit, or something.

what? Bilbo gets eaten by a willow tree, bombadil saves him and takes him home, bombadil's wife is hot, they sing a lot and bilbo goes on his way, only to get caught by a barrow-wight and bombadil has to come to the rescue again. iirc this is where he gets his mithril armor

Replace the word Bilbo with Frodo and then you're right. The mithril armor was a gift from the dwarf king for aiding them in getting back the treasure.

Man I need to reread the books

 

nanette1985

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You guys are silly. It's a rather short book? Duh, Pirates of the Caribbean got three movies out of an amusement park ride.

If they can get 6 movies out of Star Wars, or all the Rockys, they can do 3 Hobbits.

Of course I'll go see them all.
 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: Minjin
Am I the only one who liked The Hobbit more than LOTR?

No. I loved the Hobbit. I also like LOTR books, but the hobbit was friggin' sweet. Of course I was in Jr. High when I read the hobbit and probably high school / college when I read LOTR....so maybe it was my frame of mind, but I still remember the Hobbit being awesome. I mean, he tricked trolls into stones, he got to ride in some barrels, get some riches, throw firey pine cones at giant wolves.....except *spoiler alert* most of his dwarf buddies die at that end, which sucked.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: sswingle
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?

there was a part in the Hobbit when Gandalf was all "later bitches" and disappeared for half the book.

it was later revealed (in LotR?) that during that time he and the white council were fighting the necromancer in Mirkwood.


yea he teamed up with that thar brown wizard R-something

Radagast.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Tom Bombadillo!

Arent you thinking of LOTR? I don't remember Bambadil in The Hobbit, just Beorn.

Maybe they will take a bunch of prequel stuff from the Simarillion and incorporate that into the hobbit, or something.

That'd be kinda hard though given that the Hobbit was Tolkien's first book in Middle Earth and didn't reference that many other things, and what it did reference was mostly explained in LOTR anyway.

I am certain that any attempt at making a film adaptation of the Silmarillion would be doomed to failure. It's impossible to take so much content and condense it into movies. Anything less than the 11 and a half hours of the LOTR extended editions wouldn't do it justice, but anything more would bore the audiences to death. They could probably do ten films on it and still be forced to leave a lot out.
 

sactoking

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New Line Cinema holds the movie rights to The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. They bought those rights from the Saul Zaentz Company, which got them from Tolkien to settle a debt or something. It had been said in the past that The Hobbit was going to be 2 movies: the first would be The Hobbit proper and the second would be "manufactured" from the appendices of the Lord of the Rings to span the time between the Bilbo story and the Frodo story. It would encompass what Aragorn was up to mostly. My guess is that they're trying to stretch that content into a second movie.

It's not likely that they'd be splitting The Hobbit itself into multiple movies, especially if they have anyone under contract already. Contracts would have to be renegotiated and such, which would be a hassle. It would be much easier to say "Here's this new story, are you in?". Anyone that's not can be written out.

They're not adding any content from the Silmarillion, letters, Children of Hurin, etc. Legally, they can't. The rights to those works are still held by the Tolkien estate, and they refuse to market them.
 

Fingolfin269

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I thought the reason they were doing two movies was in order to draw in material from notes, silmarillion, etc. However I thought it was only going to be 2 movies. I'm sure I'd go watch it even if they made it into 15 so I don't really care.
 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: sswingle
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
It was a good story, but not THAT complex. There's basically the Shire, riddles with Gollum, and the dragon.

Uhmmm, I remember, the Shire, forest Trolls, Rivendell, passage under mountain and Gollum, escape from the mountain with eagles help, Beorn, Mirkwood forest, giant spiders, wood elves, traveling to the dragon layer, stealing crown, dragon rampage and dragon slaying, and the epic battle for the dragon riches after it's dead.

Yes, Hobbit is not as detailed (page wise long) as LotR, but it has plenty of material for two movies, if not three.

Not to mention material that was just referred to in the book, like Gandalf having to leave the party to join the white council to oust Sauron (The Necromancer) from Mirkwood.

Didn't that happen in LOTR?

there was a part in the Hobbit when Gandalf was all "later bitches" and disappeared for half the book.

it was later revealed (in LotR?) that during that time he and the white council were fighting the necromancer in Mirkwood.


yea he teamed up with that thar brown wizard R-something

Radagast.

I'm glad I'm not the only person to know that. :laugh: