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Rio Rebel

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Yes I know April 1 is the lamest day of the year. :roll:

Almost as lame as passionate arguments about an HD format. ;)

 

abaez

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I just recently bought the atonement hd-dvd. Luckily it's a dual-format buy, but the movie is just gorgeous in hi-def.
 

Baked

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When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: Baked
When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.

Stardust is SWEET on HD, dude! And the fact I got it for $12.50 at CC on clearance was EVEN SWEETER! :thumbsup:

And I got my BB $50 gift card today, for the clearance A-30 I ended up getting for FREE plus tax and a $20 service plan. Let us know when you can pick up a b00-way player for free!

I been picking up good HD deals on fleabay for about $10-13 each on average, too. Some new, some opened but mint. Some HDs go for like $5-7 frequently! I'm just about maxed out for what I want, but there is still a few titles I will pick up cheap. There's only about a 100 HDs I even want, anyhow. I'm sure the sales of HDs would have been 10xs better if they had released titles people wanted in HD in the first place, and not reissued lots of junk that failed at the box office like The HULK that Walmart couldn't give away for $2 for SD over the last few holiday sales. Hey, but now you can get Swordfish in HD for $5 on fleabay, including shipping! HOORAH! :p That's another perfect example of what they should hide in their movie vaults, not reissue. I bet you can't wait for The Hulk and Swordfishy on b00-way! :roll:

If they had released more must have titles like LOTR, Voyager, Babylon 5, Farscape and LEXX on HD-DVD, I'm sure the HD sales would have gone up 10x! But no, they had to reissue mostly stale selling crap on HD the studios lost their suits on the first time around, like Dune and Waterworld. Even though I liked those 2 flicks, you see what I mean. Poor studio release choices in HD killed off HD long before b00-way did. Too bad, too. :frown:

 

destrekor

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Paramount, you need to cross over to the Blu side so you can release Cloverfield on BD! Yes yes, I understand the picture may not look so terribly HD (even though they did use HD handheld cameras :p), but the audio.... ooo I can already imagine how happy my sub will be playing that movie. :D

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Genx87

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I have heard Blu_Ray is capacity restrained right now. It may be awhile until the late comers even have the ability to make production runs on movies.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: Genx87
I have heard Blu_Ray is capacity restrained right now. It may be awhile until the late comers even have the ability to make production runs on movies.

That information has never been anything more than blind speculation.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Genx87
I have heard Blu_Ray is capacity restrained right now. It may be awhile until the late comers even have the ability to make production runs on movies.

That information has never been anything more than blind speculation.

The guys at avs seem to disagree. There are only so many lines available right now and through the summer as more lines are brought online.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Genx87
I have heard Blu_Ray is capacity restrained right now. It may be awhile until the late comers even have the ability to make production runs on movies.

That information has never been anything more than blind speculation.

The guys at avs seem to disagree. There are only so many lines available right now and through the summer as more lines are brought online.

Case in point, There Will Be Blood comes out today on DVD, but not Blu-Ray even though there is cover art.
 

galperi1

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Genx87
I have heard Blu_Ray is capacity restrained right now. It may be awhile until the late comers even have the ability to make production runs on movies.

That information has never been anything more than blind speculation.

The guys at avs seem to disagree. There are only so many lines available right now and through the summer as more lines are brought online.

Case in point, There Will Be Blood comes out today on DVD, but not Blu-Ray even though there is cover art.

Funny... I haven't noticed any shortages yet on PS3 games or Blu-Ray movies. In any event, there is SOME manufacturing constraints, just not to the extent the AVS'ers seem to think. The main problem is not the replication (according to less biased sites), but in the authoring of the discs that is causing the delays. Universal has never done any Blu-Ray discs and Paramount has been out of it for at least 6 months.
 
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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Baked
When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.

Stardust is SWEET on HD, dude! And the fact I got it for $12.50 at CC on clearance was EVEN SWEETER! :thumbsup:

And I got my BB $50 gift card today, for the clearance A-30 I ended up getting for FREE plus tax and a $20 service plan. Let us know when you can pick up a b00-way player for free!

I been picking up good HD deals on fleabay for about $10-13 each on average, too. Some new, some opened but mint. Some HDs go for like $5-7 frequently! I'm just about maxed out for what I want, but there is still a few titles I will pick up cheap. There's only about a 100 HDs I even want, anyhow. I'm sure the sales of HDs would have been 10xs better if they had released titles people wanted in HD in the first place, and not reissued lots of junk that failed at the box office like The HULK that Walmart couldn't give away for $2 for SD over the last few holiday sales. Hey, but but now you can get Swordfish in HD for $5 on fleabay, including shipping! HOORAH! :p That's another perfect example of what they should hide in their movie vaults, not reissue. I bet you can't wait for The Hulk and Swordfishy on b00-way! :roll:

If they had released more must have titles like LOTR, Voyager, Babylon 5, Farscape and LEXX on HD-DVD, I'm sure the HD sales would have gone up 10x! But no, they had to reissue mostly stale selling crap on HD the studios lost their suits on the first time around, like Dune and Waterworld. Even though I liked those 2 flicks, you see what I mean. Poor studio release choices in HD killed off HD long before b00-way did. Too bad, too. :frown:

i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Baked
When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.

Stardust is SWEET on HD, dude! And the fact I got it for $12.50 at CC on clearance was EVEN SWEETER! :thumbsup:

And I got my BB $50 gift card today, for the clearance A-30 I ended up getting for FREE plus tax and a $20 service plan. Let us know when you can pick up a b00-way player for free!

I been picking up good HD deals on fleabay for about $10-13 each on average, too. Some new, some opened but mint. Some HDs go for like $5-7 frequently! I'm just about maxed out for what I want, but there is still a few titles I will pick up cheap. There's only about a 100 HDs I even want, anyhow. I'm sure the sales of HDs would have been 10xs better if they had released titles people wanted in HD in the first place, and not reissued lots of junk that failed at the box office like The HULK that Walmart couldn't give away for $2 for SD over the last few holiday sales. Hey, but but now you can get Swordfish in HD for $5 on fleabay, including shipping! HOORAH! :p That's another perfect example of what they should hide in their movie vaults, not reissue. I bet you can't wait for The Hulk and Swordfishy on b00-way! :roll:

If they had released more must have titles like LOTR, Voyager, Babylon 5, Farscape and LEXX on HD-DVD, I'm sure the HD sales would have gone up 10x! But no, they had to reissue mostly stale selling crap on HD the studios lost their suits on the first time around, like Dune and Waterworld. Even though I liked those 2 flicks, you see what I mean. Poor studio release choices in HD killed off HD long before b00-way did. Too bad, too. :frown:

i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.


ebay is a wonderful thing.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Baked
When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.

Stardust is SWEET on HD, dude! And the fact I got it for $12.50 at CC on clearance was EVEN SWEETER! :thumbsup:

And I got my BB $50 gift card today, for the clearance A-30 I ended up getting for FREE plus tax and a $20 service plan. Let us know when you can pick up a b00-way player for free!

I been picking up good HD deals on fleabay for about $10-13 each on average, too. Some new, some opened but mint. Some HDs go for like $5-7 frequently! I'm just about maxed out for what I want, but there is still a few titles I will pick up cheap. There's only about a 100 HDs I even want, anyhow. I'm sure the sales of HDs would have been 10xs better if they had released titles people wanted in HD in the first place, and not reissued lots of junk that failed at the box office like The HULK that Walmart couldn't give away for $2 for SD over the last few holiday sales. Hey, but but now you can get Swordfish in HD for $5 on fleabay, including shipping! HOORAH! :p That's another perfect example of what they should hide in their movie vaults, not reissue. I bet you can't wait for The Hulk and Swordfishy on b00-way! :roll:

If they had released more must have titles like LOTR, Voyager, Babylon 5, Farscape and LEXX on HD-DVD, I'm sure the HD sales would have gone up 10x! But no, they had to reissue mostly stale selling crap on HD the studios lost their suits on the first time around, like Dune and Waterworld. Even though I liked those 2 flicks, you see what I mean. Poor studio release choices in HD killed off HD long before b00-way did. Too bad, too. :frown:

i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.
Why wouldn't he be able to play his movies? He can just convert all his HD-DVDs to Blu-Ray disc or just stream them to a PS3 in the future.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Baked
When the hell's paramount gonna put Stardust on Blu-Ray? I don't want it on HDDVD or DVD.

Stardust is SWEET on HD, dude! And the fact I got it for $12.50 at CC on clearance was EVEN SWEETER! :thumbsup:

And I got my BB $50 gift card today, for the clearance A-30 I ended up getting for FREE plus tax and a $20 service plan. Let us know when you can pick up a b00-way player for free!

I been picking up good HD deals on fleabay for about $10-13 each on average, too. Some new, some opened but mint. Some HDs go for like $5-7 frequently! I'm just about maxed out for what I want, but there is still a few titles I will pick up cheap. There's only about a 100 HDs I even want, anyhow. I'm sure the sales of HDs would have been 10xs better if they had released titles people wanted in HD in the first place, and not reissued lots of junk that failed at the box office like The HULK that Walmart couldn't give away for $2 for SD over the last few holiday sales. Hey, but now you can get Swordfish in HD for $5 on fleabay, including shipping! HOORAH! :p That's another perfect example of what they should hide in their movie vaults, not reissue. I bet you can't wait for The Hulk and Swordfishy on b00-way! :roll:

If they had released more must have titles like LOTR, Voyager, Babylon 5, Farscape and LEXX on HD-DVD, I'm sure the HD sales would have gone up 10x! But no, they had to reissue mostly stale selling crap on HD the studios lost their suits on the first time around, like Dune and Waterworld. Even though I liked those 2 flicks, you see what I mean. Poor studio release choices in HD killed off HD long before b00-way did. Too bad, too. :frown:

i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.

How about not worried at all? Nice to know you care so much about us HDers, though. :p

And for your added information, I have never had a single failure on any SD DVD player I owned. And I have owned 4 of them. And I still have 1 H/K 480p DVD player that is built like a tank. I have also had multiple CD players and changers and never had one fail. I currently also have a 5 disk H/K CD changer, too. But then I don't actively abuse my electronics, like some people are prone to do. :cool:

I currently have 3 HD players: one A2 and two A30s and the A30s have a 2 year service policy. And Toshiba promised to stock repair parts for 8 YEARS to repair players, and do the repair work. By then b00-way will be DEAD and movies will come on flash drives or some other hardware format and no disk player will be needed to access them. So continually arguing about it seems pretty childish at this point. But juvenile PS3 fan boys are like that. :evil:

Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)
 

ultimatebob

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Looking back, it's too bad that the XBox 360 didn't come bundled with an HD-DVD player. With the 1 year head start that they had on the PS3, I have a hunch that the format war would have ended differently.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Looking back, it's too bad that the XBox 360 didn't come bundled with an HD-DVD player. With the 1 year head start that they had on the PS3, I have a hunch that the format war would have ended differently.

Yea. I would have to agree with that statement 100%.

 
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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.

How about not worried at all? Nice to know you care so much about us HDers, though. :p

And for your added information, I have never had a single failure on any SD DVD player I owned. And I have owned 4 of them. And I still have 1 H/K 480p DVD player that is built like a tank. I have also had multiple CD players and changers and never had one fail. I currently also have a 5 disk H/K CD changer, too. But then I don't actively abuse my electronics, like some people are prone to do. :cool:

I currently have 3 HD players: one A2 and two A30s and the A30s have a 2 year service policy. And Toshiba promised to stock repair parts for 8 YEARS to repair players, and do the repair work. By then b00-way will be DEAD and movies will come on flash drives or some other hardware format and no disk player will be needed to access them. So continually arguing about it seems pretty childish at this point. But juvenile PS3 fan boys are like that. :evil:

Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

no, childish is calling blu-ray, "b00-way" :roll:

3 HD players wow, no wonder you're such a big fanboy. you've got quite a bit invested into the tech.

and a ps3 fanboy i am not. i actually have an a30 that i picked up for $65 brand new (equivalent of a good upscaler), used solely for hd upscaling (and the 7 freebies of course).
i'm just not going to dump anymore money into a dead format.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.

How about not worried at all? Nice to know you care so much about us HDers, though. :p

And for your added information, I have never had a single failure on any SD DVD player I owned. And I have owned 4 of them. And I still have 1 H/K 480p DVD player that is built like a tank. I have also had multiple CD players and changers and never had one fail. I currently also have a 5 disk H/K CD changer, too. But then I don't actively abuse my electronics, like some people are prone to do. :cool:

I currently have 3 HD players: one A2 and two A30s and the A30s have a 2 year service policy. And Toshiba promised to stock repair parts for 8 YEARS to repair players, and do the repair work. By then b00-way will be DEAD and movies will come on flash drives or some other hardware format and no disk player will be needed to access them. So continually arguing about it seems pretty childish at this point. But juvenile PS3 fan boys are like that. :evil:

Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

no, childish is calling blu-ray, "b00-way" :roll:

3 HD players wow, no wonder you're such a big fanboy. you've got quite a bit invested into the tech.

and a ps3 fanboy i am not. i actually have an a30 that i picked up for $65 brand new (equivalent of a good upscaler), used solely for hd upscaling (and the 7 freebies of course).
i'm just not going to dump anymore money into a dead format.

FYI depends on where one buys the players. If you bought them for 89 bucks at best buy, they cost you a whole 39 bucks after the 50 dollar credit BB is giving out.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
i wanna see how happy u will be when ur hd-dvd player bites the dust and u have 100's of hd dvd's that u won't be able to play because u can't find/buy a player.

How about not worried at all? Nice to know you care so much about us HDers, though. :p

And for your added information, I have never had a single failure on any SD DVD player I owned. And I have owned 4 of them. And I still have 1 H/K 480p DVD player that is built like a tank. I have also had multiple CD players and changers and never had one fail. I currently also have a 5 disk H/K CD changer, too. But then I don't actively abuse my electronics, like some people are prone to do. :cool:

I currently have 3 HD players: one A2 and two A30s and the A30s have a 2 year service policy. And Toshiba promised to stock repair parts for 8 YEARS to repair players, and do the repair work. By then b00-way will be DEAD and movies will come on flash drives or some other hardware format and no disk player will be needed to access them. So continually arguing about it seems pretty childish at this point. But juvenile PS3 fan boys are like that. :evil:

Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

no, childish is calling blu-ray, "b00-way" :roll:

3 HD players wow, no wonder you're such a big fanboy. you've got quite a bit invested into the tech.
and a ps3 fanboy i am not. i actually have an a30 that i picked up for $65 brand new (equivalent of a good upscaler), used solely for hd upscaling (and the 7 freebies of course).
i'm just not going to dump anymore money into a dead format.

No, I have very little invested in the HD tech. Less than $250 (after my $50 BB gift card). Just one A30 retailed for $400 new. The fact you stubbornly refuse to buy any more steeply discounted HD movies is a problem you have to get over, not me. If you want to spend $30-40 for 1 b00-way movie, that's your choice, too. But I can buy 3 or 4 HD movies for that price, and I am. And the quality is exactly the same. Or better on HD, since some people claim this. But since I have no b00-way players, I can't verify this for myself.

But if your only fear of buying HD movies is the HD player dying out on you, that's pretty weak, blah blah.

 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

If you knew what lossless sounded like compared to Dolby Digital, you'd never make that ridiculous statement.

BTW, most Blu-ray titles can be found for $10-$15 used. With the added scratch resistant coating, they arrive in like new condition. :D Actually, some upcoming major studio catalog releases, brand new, will be $14 on "boo-ray". ;) Have you ever considered Prozac?
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

If you knew what lossless sounded like compared to Dolby Digital, you'd never make that ridiculous statement.

BTW, most Blu-ray titles can be found for $10-$15 used. With the added scratch resistant coating, they arrive in like new condition. :D Actually, some upcoming major studio catalog releases, brand new, will be $14 on "boo-ray". ;) Have you ever considered Prozac?

No, it's b00-way not boo-ray. Yea, I noticed the lack of motivated buyers for b00-way on feebay. It keeps the prices low. And when many titles won't even play on some b00-way players, who wants to buy them?

"Are you deluded?" :confused:

You can also use a liquid like JANVIL to fix a scratched disk, should you happen to drag one accross the cement some time. But I kind of doubt the highly touted b00-way anti-scratch coating could withstand such abuse. You know, like when someone throws a b00-way disk out of their window because it still won't play after numerous player updates. And that scratch proof coating makes a great coaster, too! Funny you have to bring up its amazing anti-scratch qualities as a major selling point, lol.

"Are you high?" :p

cubby1223 said:
The original purpose of this thread was to stop the dozens of pointless threads created with every new plot twist, each created solely to piss off the other side, and filled with nothing but mindless bickering. Those days are finished, regardless of what progresses from here on forward.

Maybe turn this into what AVS did to the news thread. Other than that, move the discussion to regular threads now, I don't foresee any more arguments over formats or services.

So WTH are you still doing hanging around here starting pointless arguments and bashing posters you simply don't agree with? Do you need an adult to point out your own blind hypocrisy from your own statements? What a freaking moron.

And prozac is for pill popping whiners who can't handle reality, like yourself. It seems like a lot of your posts to me end with attempted insults. I'm deluded, I'm high, I need prozac. What a juvenile dumb ass way to try to win an argument. If you can't make a valid point about HD otherwise, leave the thread already.

Oh, I almost forgot: "Have you ever considered Prozac?" :roll:



 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Toshiba also thinks they can make an even better upscaler for SD that will rival any HD formats. Now, that won't give you enhanced HD theater surround sound options on SD movies, but oh well. Most people can't hear the difference, anyhow. Lamp wire or Monster cable, anyone? ;)

If you knew what lossless sounded like compared to Dolby Digital, you'd never make that ridiculous statement.

BTW, most Blu-ray titles can be found for $10-$15 used. With the added scratch resistant coating, they arrive in like new condition. :D Actually, some upcoming major studio catalog releases, brand new, will be $14 on "boo-ray". ;) Have you ever considered Prozac?

You mean like Short Circuit? :D