Question The GTX 1630 thread [rumor, for now]

[VirtualLarry]

NVIDIA preparing GeForce GTX 1630 graphics card, its first GTX x30 model - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA could soon launch GeForce GTX 1630 NVIDIA set to introduce GeForce GTX 1630 to combat the entry-level offer from AMD. The GTX 1630 could be the first x30 model in the GTX series. Thus far we have seen cards such as GT 730 or GT 1030, but those are very old solutions already. Meanwhile, […]

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That's right, Nvidia has allegedly seen fit to introduce a GTX x30 card, probably to compete with the RX6400.

Expect to see these in tons of lower-end OEM PCs, also as replacement for the GTX 1050/ti. Expect 75W TDP or below slot-powered versions as well. No word yet if they will end up competing with the RX6400 in the single-slot LP market, but more competition is generally a Good Thing.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Observe how long the 6400+6500 thread is.

This thread? *Crickets chirping.*

A real head scratcher eh?

This GPU should have been the return of the sub $100 entry level graphics card.

Perhaps the data analytics are that the faithful will pay the insanely high Nvidia tax, because dat kool aid taste like Hi-C ectoplasm cooler.

6yrs later, and they release almost the same card for an even higher MSRP. The relative silence thus far is deafening.

 

[maddie]

Observe how long the 6400+6500 thread is.

This thread? *Crickets chirping.*

A real head scratcher eh?

This GPU should have been the return of the sub $100 entry level graphics card.

Perhaps the data analytics are that the faithful will pay the insanely high Nvidia tax, because dat kool aid taste like Hi-C ectoplasm cooler.

6yrs later, and they release almost the same card for an even higher MSRP. The relative silence thus far is deafening.

I heard that the "emperor has no clothes" guy lost his head.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

They really missed the trick here. This card shows up for $89 MSRP/RRP and it is a huge PR win. Many would hail the return of the entry level graphics card. Being a 1050ti level of performance for $50 less MSRP, without factoring inflation in to the real cost difference? It would get nothing but love from anyone but haters, for whom there is no help.

Would have been perfect for throwing in something like a $100 Optiplex for a slot powered F2P, emulation, and older gamer. It would have been the new king of budget bangers. But greed, and analytics that are probably depressingly accurate, gave us this pricing.

 

[VirtualLarry]

They really missed the trick here. This card shows up for $89 MSRP/RRP and it is a huge PR win. Many would hail the return of the entry level graphics card. Being a 1050ti level of performance for $50 less MSRP, without factoring inflation in to the real cost difference? It would get nothing but love from anyone but haters, for whom there is no help.

Would have been perfect for throwing in something like a $100 Optiplex for a slot powered F2P, emulation, and older gamer. It would have been the new king of budget bangers. But greed, and analytics that are probably depressingly accurate, gave us this pricing.

Does Nvidia think that they'll sell many of these, at current prices? Any?

I wonder if this was more of a "paper launch" / PR move. And what few cards that they have to sell, are just their stockpile of "salvage" TU117 GPUs. IOW, some cheap "chum" for the budget OEM builders, nothing more to see here, when they're gone, they're gone.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Does Nvidia think that they'll sell many of these, at current prices? Any?

I wonder if this was more of a "paper launch" / PR move. And what few cards that they have to sell, are just their stockpile of "salvage" TU117 GPUs. IOW, some cheap "chum" for the budget OEM builders, nothing more to see here, when they're gone, they're gone.

I don't know. There is a lot of speculation surrounding this GPU for certain. And it is probably not primarily intended for the N.A. market from the looks of it so far. But EVGA listing it for $200 here in the U.S. is a bad joke regardless.

It also seems like OEMs are the target mostly? Perhaps this is to keep Intel from getting wins with their budget cards? Just guessing of course.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Perhaps this is to keep Intel from getting wins with their budget cards?

Could be.

 

[aigomorla]

I dont understand this card..
Are they trying to sell out the 16xx waffers they had excess of?

I hear MSRP on this card is going to be around 200 dollars.
You can pick up a 1660Super for 279 dollars which i am pretty sure is a vasty superior card.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Backplate-06G-P4-1068-KR/dp/B07ZHZL2JB/ref=sr_1_3?crid=E6HKPCSMHWS&keywords=1660+super&qid=1656718300&sprefix=1660super%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-3

What is the point in this card?
It feels like Nvidia is trying to repeat the flip they did even on the 2060.
What is the point in the 2060 now when you can get a 3060 non ti for almost the same price:

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Gaming-Epic-X-Graphics/dp/B08WRQ3JR1/ref=sr_1_10?crid=676IOCU6ZZ5N&keywords=3060&qid=1656718374&sprefix=3060%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-10

 

[jpiniero]

I dont understand this card..
Are they trying to sell out the 16xx waffers they had excess of?

Arc competitor. Needing something slow enough to compete with it.

 

[aigomorla]

Arc competitor. Needing something slow enough to compete with it.

WOW so were now at a point where we need to compete in slowness?

So whose gonna take the crown for being the biggest ewaste?

RX 6300 vs Intel Arc vs 1630.
Did we really need a card to complete in being pointless after we got the 1050 DDR4 edition.

 

[jpiniero]

WOW so were now at a point where we need to compete in slowness?

I was mostly joking but there is a card that's even slower - the Quadro T400. It's still Turing but 384 cores and 2 GB of memory versus 512 and 4 GB in the 1630.

Dell is selling the T400 in new workstations (one that I saw came with Alder Lake)

https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/design-visualization/productspage/quadro/quadro-desktop/proviz-print-nvidia-T400-datasheet-us-nvidia-1670004-r5-web.pdf

 

[VirtualLarry]

I hear MSRP on this card is going to be around 200 dollars.
You can pick up a 1660Super for 279 dollars which i am pretty sure is a vasty superior card.
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce...d=1656718300&sprefix=1660super,aps,112&sr=8-3

Chck out NerdGearz.com (legit site, they cater to miners, I've ordered splitters from them before, and they were high quality). They currently have "Grade B" GTX 1660 Super cards for $189.99.

 

[Ranulf]

Did we really need a card to complete in being pointless after we got the 1050 DDR4 edition.

Nvidia must win in all categories! The more you buy, the more you save or something.

 

[aigomorla]

Nvidia must win in all categories! The more you buy, the more you save or something.

Only problem is, they cutting production, so you can't even buy more, as they wont make them for the 40 series.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Dom from Kitguru did a "Imma head out" after reviewing the 1630. LOL

TLDW - Slower than the 1050ti. Some 1650s cost the same of less right now. And the 1650 is still overpriced, making it more absurd. Doesn't even include the 6500xt in the benchmarks; still the best sub $200 card.

Disappointed that he made the same dumb recommendation of buying ragged out old cards on the wrong end of the bathtub curve, over it. Simply because performance is better. Proper value calculating, includes the cost of that old card dying a few weeks or months after you bought it. Making which ever card you buy next, too expensive.

Still waiting for all of the reviewers that were so merciless to the RX budget cards, to disparage this overpriced joke. Every day that passes makes them look more like they are in Nvidia's pockets. What is the hold up otherwise?

 

[jpiniero]

Still waiting for all of the reviewers that were so merciless to the RX budget cards, to disparage this overpriced joke. Every day that passes makes them look more like they are in Nvidia's pockets. What is the hold up otherwise?

Most reviewers aren't going to bother reviewing products they aren't sampled.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Most reviewers aren't going to bother reviewing products they aren't sampled.

That excuse isn't going to cut it. HUB and GN buy stuff and review it all the time. LTT is made of money.

I understand the product is not great for click farming. This is more about consumer advocacy.

 

[DeathReborn]

Dom from Kitguru did a "Imma head out" after reviewing the 1630. LOL

TLDW - Slower than the 1050ti. Some 1650s cost the same of less right now. And the 1650 is still overpriced, making it more absurd. Doesn't even include the 6500xt in the benchmarks; still the best sub $200 card.

Disappointed that he made the same dumb recommendation of buying ragged out old cards on the wrong end of the bathtub curve, over it. Simply because performance is better. Proper value calculating, includes the cost of that old card dying a few weeks or months after you bought it. Making which ever card you buy next, too expensive.

Still waiting for all of the reviewers that were so merciless to the RX budget cards, to disparage this overpriced joke. Every day that passes makes them look more like they are in Nvidia's pockets. What is the hold up otherwise?

I do like a good evisceration of a bad product. I do however think a 1650S at $200 new or a used 1660 at $180 are better all round buys than a 6500XT. I know, I know, running theme of me hating on the 6500XT while you play it up but this dance will carry on forever .

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I do like a good evisceration of a bad product. I do however think a 1650S at $200 new or a used 1660 at $180 are better all round buys than a 6500XT. I know, I know, running theme of me hating on the 6500XT while you play it up but this dance will carry on forever .

LOL. Actually I agree with you. Things have changed. Heck, RX6600s can be found for $225 now. Destroys everything else mentioned, and even if it has been in the mines, it should still be okay.

The result is the 1630 having the most absurd price yet. It makes the 6400 look good in comparison; didn't think that was going to be possible.

 

[blckgrffn]

LOL. Actually I agree with you. Things have changed. Heck, RX6600s can be found for $225 now. Destroys everything else mentioned, and even if it has been in the mines, it should still be okay.

The result is the 1630 having the most absurd price yet. It makes the 6400 look good in comparison; didn't think that was going to be possible.

Theres been deals on 6600s brand new encroaching on $200 (rebates, NewEgg, etc. but usually that’s a sign of things to come), which really makes all these older cards pretty silly, even if they are “brand new”. RDNA 2 support is pretty darn mature at this point.

As for the “even” slower Quadro, they at least have some sort of purpose. They tend to actually be closer to $100z Faster than pre Xe based Intel graphics, they have certified drivers for some apps, have Nvidia desktop manager (which I personally like) and actual low power usage because they are prepared to live long lives hot boxed in Dell micro towers For real, honest desktop usage they offer some benefits. Having gone Quadro on my primary work desktop, I’ll likely stay there.

It would be great to see the 6500XT get way closer to $100 than $200 but that seems pretty optimistic.

 

[DeathReborn]

LOL. Actually I agree with you. Things have changed. Heck, RX6600s can be found for $225 now. Destroys everything else mentioned, and even if it has been in the mines, it should still be okay.

The result is the 1630 having the most absurd price yet. It makes the 6400 look good in comparison; didn't think that was going to be possible.

It'd be a reasonable $50-80 card, but that's about it. The only competition will be the potentially "awesome" Arc A350... for a much cheaper price.

 

[jpiniero]

As for the “even” slower Quadro, they at least have some sort of purpose. They tend to actually be closer to $100z

Doesn't look like it's that cheap. The 4 GB version of the T400 looks like it's $200.

But it does look like the 1630 is an OEM special that they let the AIB vendors sell for whatever reason. And yeah you can justify it for OEMs since it's faster than Intel IGP.

 

[KompuKare]

Still waiting for all of the reviewers that were so merciless to the RX budget cards, to disparage this overpriced joke. Every day that passes makes them look more like they are in Nvidia's pockets. What is the hold up otherwise?

Well, the might be afraid of getting onto Nvidia PR's vendetta list and then not get a 4000 series card. You'd think the big Youtube self-proclaimed "stars" wouldn't be fearful but that's the only charitable excuse.

 

[maddie]

Well, the might be afraid of getting onto Nvidia PR's vendetta list and then not get a 4000 series card. You'd think the big Youtube self-proclaimed "stars" wouldn't be fearful but that's the only charitable excuse.

Coward instead of shill? What a choice.

 

[blckgrffn]

Doesn't look like it's that cheap. The 4 GB version of the T400 looks like it's $200.

The 2GB is way closer to $100 - looks like some shopping gets it in the $120 range - and for Quadros that just is what it is. Based on the availability from vendors, the 2GB seems to be the much more prolific part. But who cares? The Quadros exist for a different reason, they aren’t being sold to gamers and have their niche as already discussed regardless of their frame buffer. They are simply the cheapest Quadros available and most will live their life rendering excel.

The 1630 as an oem card makes certain sense but is still silly, the bar has never been higher than it is right now to qualify for “faster than integrated graphics” - I guess you get the driver support if not the performance? 🤷‍♂️

 

[jpiniero]

The 1630 as an oem card makes certain sense but is still silly, the bar has never been higher than it is right now to qualify for “faster than integrated graphics” - I guess you get the driver support if not the performance? 🤷‍♂️

The 1630 is definitely faster than Alder Lake-S IGP.