The Great Flood and Noah's Ark

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel

Originally posted by: Nik

Scientific evidence is not a guess. Theory is based on evidence, not words on a page written thousands of years ago by human hands.

Science *IS* guessing, some is rather accurate, while some may be a bit off, but none is 100%. This is why science manuals change every year. They have to make corrections. The Bible has not changed since it was written. I'm talking THE Bible, not the one that Catholics decided to add to it. (which is strictly forbidden according to the last page of Revelation).

Yes, it wasn't changed, and is therefor terribly outdated and filled with dumb shit like slavery. It was made up then, still made up now. Science's explanations have evidence behind them, and it's their willingness to change positions that lets them discover the truth, starting out believing your position is flawless cannot yield truth.

You are saying slavery doesn't exist anymore? Even if that were true (I couldn't tell you on a global level), we had slavery in this country up until not too long ago (relatively speaking)...

Way to latch on to a terrible example of a good point and run away with it in the most low-brow short sighted moronic way possible.

Way to try and throw insults to not further making any point.

Anyway, the original point stating it hasn't changed proves a larger point than this reply. Just because you think slavery is stupid doesn't mean it is.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
oh good, another bashing other's beliefs thread. can't have too many of those. no siree!

I usually defend you, but if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, why bother posting? It makes you worse than those arguing.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I don't think it was a GLOBAL flood, but a massive flood that covered most of the area which could seem like the world for anybody involved. I watched something on Discovery that was talking about it and how certain parts of the bible, including the flood, have been proven geologically. They just weren't as big as let on in the bible.

yeah I saw that too. They pretty much conclusively proved there was a flood. It is just that it was contained to a regional area. Still if that area was what you thought to be the world, then it could have seemed the world flooded.

large floods happen....?


big leap there guys....

There was a large flood at the time when the bible story would have been written . People wrote about what they saw based on the knowledge they had at the time.

No leap needed. Its fact.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Tweak155
Anyway, the original point stating it hasn't changed proves a larger point than this reply. Just because you think slavery is stupid doesn't mean it is.

What the fuck?

Now you're just trolling. Go find some other thread to shit in if you can't take the conversation seriously.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Tweak155
Anyway, the original point stating it hasn't changed proves a larger point than this reply. Just because you think slavery is stupid doesn't mean it is.

What the fuck?

Now you're just trolling. Go find some other thread to shit in if you can't take the conversation seriously.

How so?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: moshquerade
oh good, another bashing other's beliefs thread. can't have too many of those. no siree!

I usually defend you, but if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, why bother posting? It makes you worse than those arguing.

honestly, it's fruitless to defend my pov in these kinds of threads, and you know it. so i stated my opinion exactly with my post.

 

[zinfamous]

I think it's very likely that a large flood occurred at some point in the history of early human civilization. The fact that many cultures, extinct and currently existing, have somewhat similar myths and stories that relate a great flood, among other tragedies, is not insignificant.

There is, iirc, significant geologic data that points to the likelihood of a few large floods throughout history that certainly would have had a major impact on certain civilizations. Think about it: What would have been going on at the end of the Ice Age? Where the fuck is all that water supposed to go?

Also, "the world" as it would have been known by an ancient civilization would be extremely small. The flood that swallowed the world in some ancient myth may as well have been a flood that decimated an area the size of Massachusetts.

Was there a Noah? did he build some boat out of wood and place all the animals of the earth on that boat, somehow keep the lions away from the sheep and gazelle, the snakes from the rats, the frat boys from the goats, yet somehow manage to forget the unicorns and dragons? Did he live to be 800 years old?

....do you think I'm daft, or something?

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: moshquerade
oh good, another bashing other's beliefs thread. can't have too many of those. no siree!

I usually defend you, but if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, why bother posting? It makes you worse than those arguing.

honestly, it's fruitless to defend my pov in these kinds of threads, and you know it. so i stated my opinion exactly with my post.

Nik seems to think what he says is fact. He repeatedly tells people what they are, what they are doing, and what they need to be doing.

Ignore as needed.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I don't think it was a GLOBAL flood, but a massive flood that covered most of the area which could seem like the world for anybody involved. I watched something on Discovery that was talking about it and how certain parts of the bible, including the flood, have been proven geologically. They just weren't as big as let on in the bible.

yeah I saw that too. They pretty much conclusively proved there was a flood. It is just that it was contained to a regional area. Still if that area was what you thought to be the world, then it could have seemed the world flooded.

large floods happen....?


big leap there guys....

There was a large flood at the time when the bible story would have been written . People wrote about what they saw based on the knowledge they had at the time.

No leap needed. Its fact.

Regional = large? lets use more precise terms here.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: moshquerade
oh good, another bashing other's beliefs thread. can't have too many of those. no siree!

I usually defend you, but if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, why bother posting? It makes you worse than those arguing.

honestly, it's fruitless to defend my pov in these kinds of threads, and you know it. so i stated my opinion exactly with my post.

Nik seems to think what he says is fact. He repeatedly tells people what they are, what they are doing, and what they need to be doing.

Ignore as needed.

Provide examples or take your halucinations somewhere else

"Honestly," if you're going to just come in here and be a dick, go find another thread to do it in. If you're not going to participate, resorting to half-assed passive aggressive insults doesn't make you any better of a person so don't use your half-assed passive aggressive insult to call the kettle black.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

How is giving the price of something condoning it? I don't condone hand guns but I could give you the price of one.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

How is giving the price of something condoning it? I don't condone hand guns but I could give you the price of one.

Dictionary. Look up word. See answer.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I don't think it was a GLOBAL flood, but a massive flood that covered most of the area which could seem like the world for anybody involved. I watched something on Discovery that was talking about it and how certain parts of the bible, including the flood, have been proven geologically. They just weren't as big as let on in the bible.

yeah I saw that too. They pretty much conclusively proved there was a flood. It is just that it was contained to a regional area. Still if that area was what you thought to be the world, then it could have seemed the world flooded.

large floods happen....?


big leap there guys....

There was a large flood at the time when the bible story would have been written . People wrote about what they saw based on the knowledge they had at the time.

No leap needed. Its fact.

Regional = large? lets use more precise terms here.

Yes it does.
The region that it flooded was large to the people of that time .
You really need to quit trolling.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: moshquerade
oh good, another bashing other's beliefs thread. can't have too many of those. no siree!

I usually defend you, but if you're not going to contribute to the conversation, why bother posting? It makes you worse than those arguing.

honestly, it's fruitless to defend my pov in these kinds of threads, and you know it. so i stated my opinion exactly with my post.

Nik seems to think what he says is fact. He repeatedly tells people what they are, what they are doing, and what they need to be doing.

Ignore as needed.

Provide examples or take your halucinations somewhere else

"Honestly," if you're going to just come in here and be a dick, go find another thread to do it in. If you're not going to participate, resorting to half-assed passive aggressive insults doesn't make you any better of a person so don't use your half-assed passive aggressive insult to call the kettle black.

Are you serious? You just gave me yet another example.

Also - Observations are not insults. I could quote multiple examples of you telling people they aren't adding to the topic, they need to post elsewhere, etc...

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

Then your ignorance betrays you. The old testament talks about culture and slavory is an example. It wasn't god-given law. The Bible talks about murdering your brother, too. Does that mean it condones it? Don't be stupid. Use your brain.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

How is giving the price of something condoning it? I don't condone hand guns but I could give you the price of one.

Your not acting as a moral code, if the bible is the "word of god", then it's god's opinion that slaves cost this much.. Giving human life a monetary value. and dealing with a huge issue like slavery, wouldn't god have thought to say something about how terribly immoral that action is?

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I don't think it was a GLOBAL flood, but a massive flood that covered most of the area which could seem like the world for anybody involved. I watched something on Discovery that was talking about it and how certain parts of the bible, including the flood, have been proven geologically. They just weren't as big as let on in the bible.

yeah I saw that too. They pretty much conclusively proved there was a flood. It is just that it was contained to a regional area. Still if that area was what you thought to be the world, then it could have seemed the world flooded.

large floods happen....?


big leap there guys....

There was a large flood at the time when the bible story would have been written . People wrote about what they saw based on the knowledge they had at the time.

No leap needed. Its fact.

Regional = large? lets use more precise terms here.

Yes it does.
The region that it flooded was large to the people of that time .
You really need to quit trolling.

so, trying to get a clearer definition is trolling now, eh? (sounds like brainwashing)

anyways, large to the people of that time is also unclear. regional is unclear, what size area do you mean?

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

How is giving the price of something condoning it? I don't condone hand guns but I could give you the price of one.

Dictionary. Look up word. See answer.

con·done
/k?n'do?n/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-dohn] Show IPA
?verb (used with object), -doned, -don·ing.
1. to disregard or overlook (something illegal, objectionable, or the like).
2. to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior.
3. to pardon or forgive (an offense); excuse.
4. to cause the condonation of.
5. Law. to forgive or act so as to imply forgiveness of (a violation of the marriage vow).

Bold where it is "condoned" by what Videogames has stated.

I don't know why I did your work.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Tweak155
Also - Observations are not insults. I could quote multiple examples of you telling people they aren't adding to the topic, they need to post elsewhere, etc...

It's the truth. Like Mosh, they just come in here, look around, have nothing to add to the conversation, so they spout of some snide remark and then quietly watch the thread for replies, waiting for their reply to spark flame so they can jump right back in and start arguing.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: videogames101
Your not acting as a moral code, if the bible is the "word of god", then it's god's opinion that slaves cost this much.. Giving human life a monetary value. and dealing with a huge issue like slavery, wouldn't god have thought to say something about how terribly immoral that action is?

Wow. Just... wow... :roll:

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

Then your ignorance betrays you. The old testament talks about culture and slavory is an example. It wasn't god-given law. The Bible talks about murdering your brother, too. Does that mean it condones it? Don't be stupid. Use your brain.

wait, your arguing it wasn't written by god? that the context is COMPLETELY different. If it was god, than the morals are absolute. If not, then these things like price are NOT absolute, and I have no argument.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Tweak155
Also - Observations are not insults. I could quote multiple examples of you telling people they aren't adding to the topic, they need to post elsewhere, etc...

It's the truth. Like Mosh, they just come in here, look around, have nothing to add to the conversation, so they spout of some snide remark and then quietly watch the thread for replies, waiting for their reply to spark flame so they can jump right back in and start arguing.

Noted that you only replied to a portion of what I said.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
Your not acting as a moral code, if the bible is the "word of god", then it's god's opinion that slaves cost this much.. Giving human life a monetary value. and dealing with a huge issue like slavery, wouldn't god have thought to say something about how terribly immoral that action is?

Wow. Just... wow... :roll:

terribly unclear.

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: videogames101
When did I say it didn't exist? I meant it condones it. (if not directly, certainly by omission)

This is a false statement.

How so? Where in the bible does it say slavery is bad? And wait, does the bible give the price of a dead slave? why yes... sounds like it condones slavery to me.

How is giving the price of something condoning it? I don't condone hand guns but I could give you the price of one.

Dictionary. Look up word. See answer.

con·done
/k?n'do?n/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-dohn] Show IPA
?verb (used with object), -doned, -don·ing.
1. to disregard or overlook (something illegal, objectionable, or the like).
2. to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior.
3. to pardon or forgive (an offense); excuse.
4. to cause the condonation of.
5. Law. to forgive or act so as to imply forgiveness of (a violation of the marriage vow).

Bold where it is "condoned" by what Videogames has stated.

I don't know why I did your work.

by omission, thats almost word for word what i said.